Dereck Chisora ranting at Press Conference

[Master]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

I remember when you knew your boxing, what happened?

Josh Taylor has fought on channel 5 numerous times and beat up Ohara Davies which was an exceptional performance.

The whole thing sounds like a publicity stunt, no way Chisora did not know who the main event was. If he is really has an issue then he should take it up with his manager, David Haye.

Just losing interest I guess. Same with football. No subscription sports channels any more and rarely do a ppv and stopped buying the Ring maybe 12 years ago....

Josh was on channel 5, free. Should watch those at least. He is a world class boxer and very talented.

[powerpuncher]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

I remember when you knew your boxing, what happened?

Josh Taylor has fought on channel 5 numerous times and beat up Ohara Davies which was an exceptional performance.

The whole thing sounds like a publicity stunt, no way Chisora did not know who the main event was. If he is really has an issue then he should take it up with his manager, David Haye.

Just losing interest I guess. Same with football. No subscription sports channels any more and rarely do a ppv and stopped buying the Ring maybe 12 years ago....

Josh was on channel 5, free. Should watch those at least. He is a world class boxer and very talented.

You really must not care because this is a big fight. And the weight class has been on fire lately. The best has been fighting the best. This is honestly one of the biggest fights that could be made (to real fans at least).

[imp]

What a bunch of miserable fuddy duddies. He was brilliant To see Eddie, Adam and Kalle squirming, lost for words and the embarrassed smile on David Haye's boat was great.

I felt a bit embarrassed for Prograis and Taylor but the fighters at the front were cracking up.

Chisora is right too, his fight with Parker is THE main event as far as sales go (the actual fans who buy tickets and PPV). Nobody outside boxing nerds have any idea who Prograis and Taylor are.

I agree.

The main event should have been the Chisora fight and he is responsible for a huge percentage of London crowd.

Chisora is on the verge (yet again) on a world title shot if he beats Parker.

Josh Taylor gets props for providing pure enjoyment of making Ohara Davis quit..but it’s Parker and Chisora that deserve the top slot EVEN without a belt on the line.

[Spicoli]

I think maybe it's all one big wink and nod, Chisora knows his role as do the fans and they're just collectively chumming the waters for sake of build up. Chisora has to be grateful that he's on the card and both Taylor and Prograis realize this is their major league super fight to break out. Seriously though its a shame there is any hot or cold about how awesome that 140 showdown is. At some point these old war torn fan faves have to make room for the future and both Prograis and Taylor are every bit that. It's one of the best match ups to be made not only in respective division but the sport and that's all we fans ever piss and moan about wanting.

[Fenster]

What a bunch of miserable fuddy duddies. He was brilliant To see Eddie, Adam and Kalle squirming, lost for words and the embarrassed smile on David Haye's boat was great.

I felt a bit embarrassed for Prograis and Taylor but the fighters at the front were cracking up.

Chisora is right too, his fight with Parker is THE main event as far as sales go (the actual fans who buy tickets and PPV). Nobody outside boxing nerds have any idea who Prograis and Taylor are.

Yeah , ok. So why did they put this WBSS final on the card? Because THE main event wasn’t fucking selling , simple as that.
He can tell Kalle to fuck off, he can have a pop at Adam Smith, even get close to giving Eddie some shit.

I'm explaining WHY he gave them shit and demanded more money, not arguing Chisora should be top of the bill (personally I couldn't give a fuck).

You've got it mixed up mate.

Both fights were announced at the same time, as co-main events, on the Loma-Campbell show. The tickets went on sale at the same time. It's not hard to gauge what the actual punters, people who buy tickets and Box Office, are most interested in. The packed 02 crowd were shamefully "silent" when they introduced Taylor-Prograis (I felt sorry for them) yet roared the roof off at Chisora-Parker.

It's a shame Chisora-Parker are much bigger names than Taylor-Prograis but it's the sad reality.

For the millionth time, it's not about ability, titles, rankings or what someone "deserves," it's purely about what you SELL!!! How many tickets, TV viewers, media attention. The press conference wouldn't have made a murmur without Chisora. This thread wouldn't exist.

[Fenster]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

Exactly. You're not alone either, you can count on one hand the amount of people on this site that ever comment on fighters like this.

[Primo Carnera]

What a bunch of miserable fuddy duddies. He was brilliant To see Eddie, Adam and Kalle squirming, lost for words and the embarrassed smile on David Haye's boat was great.

I felt a bit embarrassed for Prograis and Taylor but the fighters at the front were cracking up.

Chisora is right too, his fight with Parker is THE main event as far as sales go (the actual fans who buy tickets and PPV). Nobody outside boxing nerds have any idea who Prograis and Taylor are.

Yeah , ok. So why did they put this WBSS final on the card? Because THE main event wasn’t fucking selling , simple as that.
He can tell Kalle to fuck off, he can have a pop at Adam Smith, even get close to giving Eddie some shit.

I'm explaining WHY he gave them shit and demanded more money, not arguing Chisora should be top of the bill (personally I couldn't give a fuck).

You've got it mixed up mate.

Both fights were announced at the same time, as co-main events, on the Loma-Campbell show. The tickets went on sale at the same time. It's not hard to gauge what the actual punters, people who buy tickets and Box Office, are most interested in. The packed 02 crowd were shamefully "silent" when they introduced Taylor-Prograis (I felt sorry for them) yet roared the roof off at Chisora-Parker.

It's a shame Chisora-Parker are much bigger names than Taylor-Prograis but it's the sad reality.

For the millionth time, it's not about ability, titles, rankings or what someone "deserves," it's purely about what you SELL!!! How many tickets, TV viewers, media attention. The press conference wouldn't have made a murmur without Chisora. This thread wouldn't exist.

But like you said Mate, it’s about what you sell. You’ve said why he had a rant, and fair enough.
My point being that if Chisora/Parker was selling like hot cakes, he would have no need to pad the show up with Prograis/Taylor. They would be able to make that as a seperate show (not necessarily ppv.) in Glasgow Or America.
It doesn’t matter how many people scream when Chisora and Parker’s names are announced, it’s about how the show performs as a ppv.
And I genuinely don’t see people buying it.

[ykdadamaja]

Whyte and Miller should have fought, I mean if both are cheating then is it really cheating? Chisora is old news, he's been beaten senseless quite literally.

.. and you guys hyped him up. I knew he was a punching bag when Fury beat him the second time. lol... David Price is next!

[Master]

Whyte and Miller should have fought, I mean if both are cheating then is it really cheating? Chisora is old news, he's been beaten senseless quite literally.

.. and you guys hyped him up. I knew he was a punching bag when Fury beat him the second time. lol... David Price is next!

You have mistaken Whyte with Chisora it was he who was beaten by Fury twice.

[Spicoli]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

Exactly. You're not alone either, you can count on one hand the amount of people on this site that ever comment on fighters like this.

Like this ..do you mean outsiders? Undefeated champs who are particularly fond of destroying the midsection unifying in what was until recently the end all and be all of tourneys. Best v Best. Hey if fans don't want to enjoy something new thats on them.

[Fenster]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

Exactly. You're not alone either, you can count on one hand the amount of people on this site that ever comment on fighters like this.

Like this ..do you mean outsiders? Undefeated champs who are particularly fond of destroying the midsection unifying in what was until recently the end all and be all of tourneys. Best v Best. Hey if fans don't want to enjoy something new thats on them.

If self-proclaimed "hardcore" fans actually purchased boxing tickets, PPV, subscriptions or simply tuned in to watch, instead of stealing and moaning about being "ripped off," they'd get every fight they ever demand.

This thread is about a veteran boxer pressuring promoters and TV networks for a "fair" shake, based on facts and evidence. Who has got all the shit? The big mouth "slave" boxer who should know his place.

[X]

Well, I have to admit that Chisora's ranting has gained the whole card a lot more attention on the mainstream press (and this forum) than it would have ordinarily got !

He always does something like this before a fight ..... and I can just see him high-fiving Prograis and Taylor backstage afterwards

'Nice one, Dereck', 'great presser, mate'

Jack Kearns would have been proud of that one

[Primo Carnera]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

Exactly. You're not alone either, you can count on one hand the amount of people on this site that ever comment on fighters like this.

Like this ..do you mean outsiders? Undefeated champs who are particularly fond of destroying the midsection unifying in what was until recently the end all and be all of tourneys. Best v Best. Hey if fans don't want to enjoy something new thats on them.

If self-proclaimed "hardcore" fans actually purchased boxing tickets, PPV, subscriptions or simply tuned in to watch, instead of stealing and moaning about being "ripped off," they'd get every fight they ever demand.

This thread is about a veteran boxer pressuring promoters and TV networks for a "fair" shake, based on facts and evidence. Who has got all the shit? The big mouth "slave" boxer who should know his place.

When you say “fair shake” do you not think he’s getting one for the level of fighter he is?
I’d be intrigued to know how much you think he’s worth.
Or is he “worth more” just because he throws the odd table around , spits at World champions and tells everybody to fuck off now and again!
When does Boxing talent come into it?

[Beanz]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

Exactly. You're not alone either, you can count on one hand the amount of people on this site that ever comment on fighters like this.

Like this ..do you mean outsiders? Undefeated champs who are particularly fond of destroying the midsection unifying in what was until recently the end all and be all of tourneys. Best v Best. Hey if fans don't want to enjoy something new thats on them.

If self-proclaimed "hardcore" fans actually purchased boxing tickets, PPV, subscriptions or simply tuned in to watch, instead of stealing and moaning about being "ripped off," they'd get every fight they ever demand.

This thread is about a veteran boxer pressuring promoters and TV networks for a "fair" shake, based on facts and evidence. Who has got all the shit? The big mouth "slave" boxer who should know his place.

When you say “fair shake” do you not think he’s getting one for the level of fighter he is?
I’d be intrigued to know how much you think he’s worth.
Or is he “worth more” just because he throws the odd table around , spits at World champions and tells everybody to fuck off now and again!
When does Boxing talent come into it?

From your very first fight as a pro until your last it is always about how many tickets YOU can sell. That may be because of what you do inside and outside of the ring, how good you are at pestering people, courting the press, playing the game, taking your chances when they are offered, bouncing back, making yourself hated or loved, ....whatever. It is prize fighting and the spectacle has always been part of it. Boxing talent can be there in spades but if you do not sell tickets a manager will not invest in you and a promoter will lose interest. It is unfair and incredibly cruel at times but it is the way it is.

The WBS is an aberration. It is messed up that it should be so unusual, but it is. It would be brilliant if all the champs and contenders were forced to fight each other for recognition as THE BEST in your respective division but sadly it does not make as much money. Check out the X Factor and Britain's got Talent crap getting international exposure when you have more talented artists and bands that will never get past the national circuit.

It is hard not to end up a cynical grumpy bastard as you get older but everyone is out there to milk it for what it is worth. Realistically what is Del Boy going to do when he retires? so he needs to up the stakes and make Haye while the sun shines.

[Master]

Prograis and Taylor. True. Never heard of em

Exactly. You're not alone either, you can count on one hand the amount of people on this site that ever comment on fighters like this.

Like this ..do you mean outsiders? Undefeated champs who are particularly fond of destroying the midsection unifying in what was until recently the end all and be all of tourneys. Best v Best. Hey if fans don't want to enjoy something new thats on them.

If self-proclaimed "hardcore" fans actually purchased boxing tickets, PPV, subscriptions or simply tuned in to watch, instead of stealing and moaning about being "ripped off," they'd get every fight they ever demand.

This thread is about a veteran boxer pressuring promoters and TV networks for a "fair" shake, based on facts and evidence. Who has got all the shit? The big mouth "slave" boxer who should know his place.

When you say “fair shake” do you not think he’s getting one for the level of fighter he is?
I’d be intrigued to know how much you think he’s worth.
Or is he “worth more” just because he throws the odd table around , spits at World champions and tells everybody to fuck off now and again!
When does Boxing talent come into it?

From your very first fight as a pro until your last it is always about how many tickets YOU can sell. That may be because of what you do inside and outside of the ring, how good you are at pestering people, courting the press, playing the game, taking your chances when they are offered, bouncing back, making yourself hated or loved, ....whatever. It is prize fighting and the spectacle has always been part of it. Boxing talent can be there in spades but if you do not sell tickets a manager will not invest in you and a promoter will lose interest. It is unfair and incredibly cruel at times but it is the way it is.

The WBS is an aberration. It is messed up that it should be so unusual, but it is. It would be brilliant if all the champs and contenders were forced to fight each other for recognition as THE BEST in your respective division but sadly it does not make as much money. Check out the X Factor and Britain's got Talent crap getting international exposure when you have more talented artists and bands that will never get past the national circuit.

It is hard not to end up a cynical grumpy bastard as you get older but everyone is out there to milk it for what it is worth. Realistically what is Del Boy going to do when he retires? so he needs to up the stakes and make Haye while the sun shines.

Well Chisora should act with a bit of class and dignity, what haappend to his born again Christian and calm persona that he was promoting?

Putting down top professionals in their division is an idiot move. Hope he gets beat by Parker now.