The Brexit Thread

[El Kabong]

It is hardly unsolicited or vitriol it is a fact that you have so much hostility toward Europe and my family you think nothing of comparing the EU and ordinary German people to Hitler and the Nazis. It seems like an obsession for you.

I don't have hostility toward Europe I have hostility toward the EU....they aren't the same thing. Neither the EU leaders nor Angela Merkel are "ordinary German person(s)". I haven't mentioned your family directly at all, but man they sure do seem to get around.

I am not like you and Gandalf. I am not interested in playing identity politics or subscribing to your very media led view of a world thousands of miles away from you. I do not speak from a place of ignorance. The Gilet Jaunes are a very interesting case in point that you are completely misunderstanding in your rush to claim something that is protesting the very neoliberal values you subscribe to. Those protests are not about the left or the right but they are about protesting the disgusting wealth inequality you venerate. You and Gandalf have way more in common in your aspirations with Macron and his gold desk than you ever will with the Yellow Vests.

Agreed, you aren't like me in the slightest, nor are you like Gandalf and why you decided to name drop him here . You don't play identity politics? Then why keep calling me a bigot and a xenophobe and racist? How exactly am I misunderstanding the Gilet Jaunes? I guess the armored vehicle with the EU flag on it utilized to quell their protests was only trying to help them. I don't care for Macron at all. I didn't mind Sarkozy as much, but even he was a bit cozy with Obama whom I don't trust for various reasons.

You will believe what you want to believe because your entire outlook is based on fear and negativity fueled by angry little ex pats who surround themselves with sycophants in order to avoid growing up. If their videos are what you gorge on and that is true of both you and Gandalf then no wonder your fantasy belief system is so skewed. I am not a huge EU fan however you have tried to spin it but I am a realist and a pragmatist. I also do not share your xenophobia.

Again you bring up Gandalf which will only have him responding to these posts and wondering what the fuck is happening, but I suppose you know what you're doing.

So while you both froth at the mouth I am grateful that in the real world I have a yellow jacket under my car seat for when we go just across the water and visit France. A country that thanks to the EU is treating my Mrs Dad in a French hospital today.

Oh so you're a poser and why would her Dad go to France for treatment? Isn't the NHS totally tits and everyone should want to replicate it? That family, boy do they ever get around

At no cost thanks to a principle and model of healthcare that you would see destroyed in order to maximise profits for American companies. You do not act like our friends. Under Trump you are the kind of country we should be fearing way, way more then Europe or the EU. Your track record is appalling.

Yeah that "no cost healthcare model" doesn't really jive with the "Bring all the 'refugees' in model of immigration". Our track record like....ending the Korean War, not getting involved more in Syria? But hey it's ok I mean it's not like your nation attempted to aid and abet plotters to take out Trump....oh wait.

That does not mean i subscribe to a lot of the bureaucratic nonsense or the MIC upon which your own precious ultra capitalist hell depends in order to forever sustain profits, but it does mean that i can see that for the most part the good outweighs the bad. You are lecturing me from a country that has fucked over half the world in order to maintain a system you keep telling us is amazing as though you really give a fuck about Britain, a country you want to see smashed into a fuzzy play dough model of your own.

If that's what you get from what I post then I guess you either are viewing it from a skewed perspective or misunderstanding what I'm posting.


Good chat.