The Brexit Thread

[Master]

The reason why there was no general election was because it was a ruse by Boris.

Boris had just lost a vote that he could not have a No Deal Brexit this handed power back to parliament, he kicked out 21 of his own MP’s in anger and thereby lost even more power. Corbyn led an alliance in opposition and the only reason Boris offered an election was to force a no deal Brexit which would have naturally happened as it would have gone over 31st October. Boris lost that vote too. Now Boris is frantically trying to make a deal but he has no chance and so is running down the clock hoping to annoy the EU to not grant the extension that he does not want to do.

This is like ordering pizza in a large group

"I want pepperoni!" ...."I want sausage!"...."I'm vegetarian so I just want veggies!" ....."I'm vegan, I don't want pizza at all I just want something which doesn't have any animal products that is sustainable and then we all need to huddle together to listen to my slam poetry!"


Boris' job is to secure Brexit, that's all. What kind of Brexit deals do these leaders propose? Are they being realistic or spiteful? Are there not Remainers still in Parliament?

Yes Boris should secure a Brexit deal. Labour have proposed a 6 point deal from the start and May only started looking at that when her deal failed. The Labour deal is realistic and could work as they have collaborated with EU. Yes there are remainers in all parties but at least Labour still wants to honour the vote. Liberals do not. This is a Tory mess from the start and they have done nothing to fix it. A no deal Brexit is not a fix, it is a start to a poor deal.

OK then will this 6 point deal be found acceptable by the EU? If not, then what?

Do you think that some Remainers might be asking for too much or too little in the hopes it keeps a deal from happening and that Britain just reverses course? Seems to be what the LibDems are actively hoping for.



What do you think of the LibDems cozying up to Guy Verhofstadt? Seems as though they're thinking about what is best for the EU as opposed to what is best for the UK.

I think Labours proposal has a better chance of being accepted by EU as they had been discussing it with the organisations in Europe.

The reality is May could have got her deal through if she had her majority in parliament and did not call that unnecessary general election that she did not bother to turn up to.

If Labour or Tory have a majority they will get a deal through parliament.

Yes there are remainers but I believe they did want to deliver the referendum result otherwise they would have undermined everything that they stand for.

They have not delivered because they do not have a majority in parliament. The longer the delay the louder the remainers have become until we have the Liberals who will not honour the result.

[El Kabong]

I think Labours proposal has a better chance of being accepted by EU as they had been discussing it with the organisations in Europe.

The reality is May could have got her deal through if she had her majority in parliament and did not call that unnecessary general election that she did not bother to turn up to.

If Labour or Tory have a majority they will get a deal through parliament.

Yes there are remainers but I believe they did want to deliver the referendum result otherwise they would have undermined everything that they stand for.

They have not delivered because they do not have a majority in parliament. The longer the delay the louder the remainers have become until we have the Liberals who will not honour the result.

I would imagine that to be the case, that Labour would offer terms more acceptable to the EU, but I'd also think Labour would be in the group not really wanting to leave ergo my questions about them sandbagging the process. I mean I wouldn't be shocked if they did, I'd be more shocked if they didn't.

Theresa May's poor little black heart simply wasn't IN Brexit at all, she too wished to remain. I think Boris might be a little be more genuine in wanting to achieve the deal, but he's also such an oaf that he could bumble his way into remain and perhaps that is what certain people are hoping for.

Well I hope for the safety and security of your nation the voice and will of the people is realized by those in power....they are only in power on behalf of representing the populace.

You're a better man than I for trusting politicians these days. Seems like the world is overrun with sore losers.


What the LibDems are doing seems very uncouth to me.



Many thanks for responding to me and without a smidge of personal attacks or sarcasm or vitriol......wow, are you human? Don't you know what a horrible person I'm reported to be?!?!?!

[Master]

Boris is an opportunist who loves Europe, he only chose Brexit at the last minute, only to spite Cameron and stand out. He would have won the leadership but Gove stabbed him in the back and we got May.

Trust me, Teresa May did want to get a deal as her career was on the line and she personally took charge of the deal but it was too little too late.

The whole process has been a mitigating disaster and shows how inept this government is.

[El Kabong]

Boris is an opportunist who loves Europe, he only chose Brexit at the last minute, only to spite Cameron and stand out. He would have won the leadership but Gove stabbed him in the back and we got May.

Trust me, Teresa May did want to get a deal as her career was on the line and she personally took charge of the deal but it was too little too late.

The whole process has been a mitigating disaster and shows how inept this government is.

Fair enough, I think she was forced to be a Brexiteer though, that wasn't in her heart. As evidenced by....



Yeah it hasn't been handled well. I think had Remain won, then any Brexit factions would just be waited out and drowned out by the establishment politicians. They would have been relegated to outsider parties like UKIP and Brexit Party and they'd wither on the vine as their cause would have already been lost.

[Beanz]

1. Prevent No Deal Chaos as a first priority.
2. Remove the Tories - who created this Brexit mess - from power.
3. Renegotiate an EU deal that doesn't involve annihilating the economy, trashing our rights and living standards, or triggering violent chaos by erecting a border in Ireland.
4. Hold a final say referendum with a sensible option for both sides, neither of which involve utterly wrecking the economy (between the two least-bad outcomes).

A notable problem with this strategy is that the ideological militants at either side both absolutely hate it, and they're capable of making an awful lot of noise.

The loudest of them not only do not even live here, they have the arrogance to suggest that you are not 'British' if you disagree, or if you do not fit into their caricature plastic version of what they think being British is, because they generally have moobs and are condescending American cunts or are skinny fuckers who think living outside of the UK means they are superior to most Brits.

[Gandalf]

1. Prevent No Deal Chaos as a first priority.
2. Remove the Tories - who created this Brexit mess - from power.
3. Renegotiate an EU deal that doesn't involve annihilating the economy, trashing our rights and living standards, or triggering violent chaos by erecting a border in Ireland.
4. Hold a final say referendum with a sensible option for both sides, neither of which involve utterly wrecking the economy (between the two least-bad outcomes).

A notable problem with this strategy is that the ideological militants at either side both absolutely hate it, and they're capable of making an awful lot of noise.

The loudest of them not only do not even live here, they have the arrogance to suggest that you are not 'British' if you disagree, or if you do not fit into their caricature plastic version of what they think being British is, because they generally have moobs and are condescending American cunts or are skinny fuckers who think living outside of the UK means they are superior to most Brits.

Mental.

[Beanz]

1. Prevent No Deal Chaos as a first priority.
2. Remove the Tories - who created this Brexit mess - from power.
3. Renegotiate an EU deal that doesn't involve annihilating the economy, trashing our rights and living standards, or triggering violent chaos by erecting a border in Ireland.
4. Hold a final say referendum with a sensible option for both sides, neither of which involve utterly wrecking the economy (between the two least-bad outcomes).

A notable problem with this strategy is that the ideological militants at either side both absolutely hate it, and they're capable of making an awful lot of noise.

The loudest of them not only do not even live here, they have the arrogance to suggest that you are not 'British' if you disagree, or if you do not fit into their caricature plastic version of what they think being British is, because they generally have moobs and are condescending American cunts or are skinny fuckers who think living outside of the UK means they are superior to most Brits.

Mental.

Yes it is mental. Listen to yourselves how arrogant and dishonest you both are.

So El Kabong can lecture us all on how democracy is the tyranny of the majority and then in the same breath suggest that I am a remainer which makes me a spoilt brat who wants to fuck the country up by giving people a chance to exercise their democratic rights. He then goes on to define what it means to be British on behalf of Brits

"and yeah you TOTALLY have more in common with Europe than the United States not like we share ancestry or language or culture at all...I do love that you see it that way, because you would, you're European, you've admitted as much "My family Germany, my family France"....what is British about you exactly? You speak like a pirate? You enjoy gin? You like punk rock?

I expect Swedes to be self loathing, but it hurts my heart when it's Brits....fucking pathetic. "

It is mental. You are both extremists pretending anyone not as stupid or bigoted as both of you are are the very thing you have always been.

Political idealogues obsessed with identity politics. How many white people there are, what constitutes being 'correct' in your eyes, the PC agenda you bring into everything. Your posts dominate EVERY thread on the forum. It's tiresome because it is bluster and bullshit from opinionated kids at best. Meanwhile all the actual men have to hold their tongue while you both tell us all how everything is on every subject, including our own lives.

I started this thread two years ago to bemoan the Tories NOT implementing the mess they engineered and you both twisted like a fucking pretzel to suggest that it was me and those who never asked for it who were responsible for the shit show it has turned into.

That is truly mental.

[Gandalf]

1. Prevent No Deal Chaos as a first priority.
2. Remove the Tories - who created this Brexit mess - from power.
3. Renegotiate an EU deal that doesn't involve annihilating the economy, trashing our rights and living standards, or triggering violent chaos by erecting a border in Ireland.
4. Hold a final say referendum with a sensible option for both sides, neither of which involve utterly wrecking the economy (between the two least-bad outcomes).

A notable problem with this strategy is that the ideological militants at either side both absolutely hate it, and they're capable of making an awful lot of noise.

The loudest of them not only do not even live here, they have the arrogance to suggest that you are not 'British' if you disagree, or if you do not fit into their caricature plastic version of what they think being British is, because they generally have moobs and are condescending American cunts or are skinny fuckers who think living outside of the UK means they are superior to most Brits.

I had no idea your army of European siblings were skinny fuckers either. Interesting. Remainers think they are superior. Remember that. "You are all hoodwinked, all being manipulated by lies, too stupid for your own good, etc etc." Condescending? Much?

Out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!