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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed

    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I haven't seen a single person pick Porter to win, for obvious reasons, it's basically a mismatch with fans/oddsmakers. However, it's a worthwhile fight as Porter is a name, even though he has no fans.

    What does everyone think the PPV will do? 150-250k? Less or more?
    There's actually a few picks for porter to grind one out.(https://fightnews.com/surprising-spe...dictions/55701)

    Manny Pacquiao: Spence W 12
    Deontay Wilder: Spence UD 12
    Andy Ruiz Jr: Porter SD 12
    Gary Russell Jr: Porter SD 12
    Thomas Hearns: Spence MD 12
    Abner Mares: Porter SD 12
    Mikey Garcia: Spence W 12
    Keith Thurman: Spence W 12 / TKO
    Angel Garcia: Porter W 12
    Julian Williams: Spence W 12
    Yordenis Ugas: Porter W 12
    Evander Holyfield: Spence MD 12
    Robert Guerrero: Porter SD 12
    Erickson Lubin: Spence UD 12
    Tony Harrison: Spence W 12
    Jose Benavidez Sr: Porter SD 12
    Paulie Malignaggi: Spence Late-TKO
    Robert Easter Jr: Spence W 12
    Ruben Guerrero: Porter W 12
    Sergey Lipinets: Spence W 12
    Robert Garcia: Spence W 12
    Austin Trout: Porter SD 12
    Caleb Truax: Spence UD 12
    Sergio Mora: Porter W 12
    Andre Berto: Spence W 12

    I'm still not sold on Spence for a few reasons. I think most people picking porter are doing so as maybe wishful thinking in that the little guy that works hard beats the big guy that hasn't had great competition but is being crowned the heir apparent. I cant see Spence losing a decisions. At least not to Porter. Its a tall order, but what the hell, I'll root for Porter's application over Spence's potential. Maybe Spence will make a believer out of me.
    Spence’s biggest issue is that same issue as all good offensive fighters. You have to take big shots to give big shots. His weakness I think will be someone who is tough that can take a good punch and deliver them back. Maybe someone like Maidana.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I haven't seen a single person pick Porter to win, for obvious reasons, it's basically a mismatch with fans/oddsmakers. However, it's a worthwhile fight as Porter is a name, even though he has no fans.

    What does everyone think the PPV will do? 150-250k? Less or more?
    There's actually a few picks for porter to grind one out.(https://fightnews.com/surprising-spe...dictions/55701)

    Manny Pacquiao: Spence W 12
    Deontay Wilder: Spence UD 12
    Andy Ruiz Jr: Porter SD 12
    Gary Russell Jr: Porter SD 12
    Thomas Hearns: Spence MD 12
    Abner Mares: Porter SD 12
    Mikey Garcia: Spence W 12
    Keith Thurman: Spence W 12 / TKO
    Angel Garcia: Porter W 12
    Julian Williams: Spence W 12
    Yordenis Ugas: Porter W 12
    Evander Holyfield: Spence MD 12
    Robert Guerrero: Porter SD 12
    Erickson Lubin: Spence UD 12
    Tony Harrison: Spence W 12
    Jose Benavidez Sr: Porter SD 12
    Paulie Malignaggi: Spence Late-TKO
    Robert Easter Jr: Spence W 12
    Ruben Guerrero: Porter W 12
    Sergey Lipinets: Spence W 12
    Robert Garcia: Spence W 12
    Austin Trout: Porter SD 12
    Caleb Truax: Spence UD 12
    Sergio Mora: Porter W 12
    Andre Berto: Spence W 12

    I'm still not sold on Spence for a few reasons. I think most people picking porter are doing so as maybe wishful thinking in that the little guy that works hard beats the big guy that hasn't had great competition but is being crowned the heir apparent. I cant see Spence losing a decisions. At least not to Porter. Its a tall order, but what the hell, I'll root for Porter's application over Spence's potential. Maybe Spence will make a believer out of me.
    Spence’s biggest issue is that same issue as all good offensive fighters. You have to take big shots to give big shots. His weakness I think will be someone who is tough that can take a good punch and deliver them back. Maybe someone like Maidana.
    From what i've seen of Spence, hes used to being the hunter. In fights with smaller fighters (Brooke and Garcia), whenever they came out like the cornered animals, they put in good work on Spence. I agree with you that Spence's focus on being an offensive fighter has put him in the way of some big shots. Its one of those cases when you say , if this guy added some head movement or speed, he'd be hard to beat or stop. I don't think he wants to. He wants to stalk, he wants to walk his opponents into traps. It's easy to be calm when you're the hunter and you're in control due to your power. You're the bigger stronger guy and you know these guys probably can't hurt you, so you bide your time and walk them into a trap where they cant get away. They have two choice, try to back you off but theyre not powerful enough or get on their bike and try to pick a few battles and lose big on the cards.

    The problem here is that while Porter is still a smaller yet broader welterweight, Spence is a big welter. I've never rated Porter a big puncher. Battering a waif-y malignaggi from pillar to post didn't win me over much. Part of that problem is mechanics, Porter's style doesnt only smother his opponents work, it smothers his own, so winging elbows to land stubby hooks is his best weapon but he's not getting full power on those shots (like say someone like tyson did) because he's not incorporating his legs. So while i think Spence may catch a few inside the Porter tornado if he gets bulled back to the ropes, i dont see any debilitating shots landing. So its easy enough for his corner to say, tie him up and after the ref separates you, catch him coming in. I like some of the work Porters put in for this camp. Especially, as far as Stepping to the side and using angles to keep from sitting in the pocket after the initial exchanges. Shawns always impressed me by how he's constantly embraced something out of his comfort zone and adding things to his repertoire. Shawns problem is he sometimes loses his focus and brawls and mauls on instinct. Like a lunch pail guy walking back into a mill after lunch or a smoke. I'll grind it out till 5pm.. another hard days work. That's how he got caught against broner. There are some fine tuning adjustments, that could turn this guy into the smaller hybrid tysonesque fighter that pazienza never quite became, if Porter ever decided to embrace a change in style.
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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Fuck Round One and Molina is a shambling drunk. Lopez looks shot to fuck as well but still infinitely better than Molina. Amazing Molina is fighting.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Evening Kirk. Just settling in to see what's up.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Site a bit slow again....

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Fuck Round One and Molina is a shambling drunk. Lopez looks shot to fuck as well but still infinitely better than Molina. Amazing Molina is fighting.

    Yes... the little I've seen so far and Molina does look like shit.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Hey dudes how goes it. Some hooligan broke into my house and ordered this apparently . Thinking Spence will stop Porter.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Hey dudes how goes it. Some hooligan broke into my house and ordered this apparently . Thinking Spence will stop Porter.
    May your thinking be 100% correct.


    Meanwhile, I can't believe one of the commentators is saying the fight may have been stopped too soon. C'mon dude...... really?

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Molina may have been fighting back.... but he was getting his head beaten around like a piñata in front of a mob of kids with baseball bats.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    corner should have stopped it between rounds

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Good evening gentlemen. That was a shocking fight. They're both shot to fuck but Molina is really bad. He probably won't stop though.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    You can only fight for so long with that style that Molina has. Eventually you slow down and can’t take a punch anymore

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Mario's height and reach advantages are all too evident in this fight. I don't see Akhmedov being able to solve the riddle of how to get inside.

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Oh good right and Akhmedov does a dance! Barrios definitely composed

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    Default Re: Spence/Porter unification now signed - $75 FOX PPV/Sky Sports

    Yep tough look for Molina tonight. Feel bad for him with last two big fights cancelled and lands a big fight card but he was just never in it. Looked like a case of reputation affording him second chance. It's all finally caught up by the looks of it. Have to give it to Lopez he's turned it around and looked in shape.

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