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    IF England bans private schools THEN what is the public school curriculum and who makes the final decisions on it?

    I figure there are at least some similarities between the US education system and UK system and everything taught isn't always cut and dry and sometimes (as you've seen in certain areas) specific topics are kind of a third rail....so how does that work in a one size fits all education system?

    Then there's the whole class size issue and teacher to student ratio as well as taxation which pays for the operation of these centers of education...and those are all things mass immigration legal, illegal or otherwise make far worse.

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    How Life Became an Endless, Terrible Competition

    Meritocracy prizes achievement above all else, making everyone—even the rich—miserable. Maybe there’s a way out.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...inners/594760/
    Is it though? He seems to greatly lament nepotism. Also it's just taken for granted that anyone and everyone can be at the tippy top of the money making mountain rather than a more pragmatic "the world needs ditch diggers too" and that is very true. Also this lawyer and law professor seems to not even have manual labor and the money to be made in those fields on his radar. The value of a college education has peaked and is beginning to become more of an economic hindrance rather than a benefit. Now he IS quite correct on the "billable hour" and whew boy that's a fucking grinder that young high paid lawyers go through and it weeds out the pretenders from the contenders, there's plenty of other kinds of law and plenty of people make money practicing and they aren't all in mergers and acquisitions, they aren't all high rollin' wheelin' dealin' kiss stealin' limousine ridin' jet flyin' son of a guns....some do rather mundane things and they pay their bills, they do better than their parents before them. What that lawyer is saying is tantamount to "Well if you don't play football in the Premier League it isn't even worth your while to play the game"...meanwhile there's leagues all around the world all at varying levels of skill and some better or equal to the Premier League.

    That lawyer/law professor is in a bubble and he doesn't even recognize it. Most lawyers like THAT yeah they aren't what I'd call observant of people on different paths than themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    IF England bans private schools THEN what is the public school curriculum and who makes the final decisions on it?

    I figure there are at least some similarities between the US education system and UK system and everything taught isn't always cut and dry and sometimes (as you've seen in certain areas) specific topics are kind of a third rail....so how does that work in a one size fits all education system?

    Then there's the whole class size issue and teacher to student ratio as well as taxation which pays for the operation of these centers of education...and those are all things mass immigration legal, illegal or otherwise make far worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    How Life Became an Endless, Terrible Competition

    Meritocracy prizes achievement above all else, making everyone—even the rich—miserable. Maybe there’s a way out.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...inners/594760/
    Is it though? He seems to greatly lament nepotism. Also it's just taken for granted that anyone and everyone can be at the tippy top of the money making mountain rather than a more pragmatic "the world needs ditch diggers too" and that is very true. Also this lawyer and law professor seems to not even have manual labor and the money to be made in those fields on his radar. The value of a college education has peaked and is beginning to become more of an economic hindrance rather than a benefit. Now he IS quite correct on the "billable hour" and whew boy that's a fucking grinder that young high paid lawyers go through and it weeds out the pretenders from the contenders, there's plenty of other kinds of law and plenty of people make money practicing and they aren't all in mergers and acquisitions, they aren't all high rollin' wheelin' dealin' kiss stealin' limousine ridin' jet flyin' son of a guns....some do rather mundane things and they pay their bills, they do better than their parents before them. What that lawyer is saying is tantamount to "Well if you don't play football in the Premier League it isn't even worth your while to play the game"...meanwhile there's leagues all around the world all at varying levels of skill and some better or equal to the Premier League.

    That lawyer/law professor is in a bubble and he doesn't even recognize it. Most lawyers like THAT yeah they aren't what I'd call observant of people on different paths than themselves.
    The government in conjunction with various examining boards around the country set the curriculum. That wouldn't change if private schools were abolished. Did you actually read the article? If you did you didn't comprehend it. It's not all about lawyers and billable hours, it's about every single job the elite do. It's also about the huge and widening inequality gap between the elite and everybody else. People are not doing better than their parents, they're doing much worse. On another subject you'd be parroting the fact that wages are stagnant for decades now and the elite are capturing all the economic gains, that the system is rigged. You know, what you were saying back in 2016 when Trump was saying it. It's an article lamenting the fact that the whole system now is just horrific for the elite on down for the vast majority of people.

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    Yeah you're right rampant illegal immigration wouldn't have anything to do with wage stagnation.

    I do so love the contempt that you respond to me with. Every time. It's lovely, I must really irk you...and that just warms my heart

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Yeah you're right rampant illegal immigration wouldn't have anything to do with wage stagnation.

    I do so love the contempt that you respond to me with. Every time. It's lovely, I must really irk you...and that just warms my heart
    Massive illegal immigration doesn't have anything to do with wage stagnation. If mass immigration over the southern border was bad for the American economy there'd be a double hundred foot wall between the Atlantic and the Pacific with a patrolled road in between the two walls. The highest level of immigration relative to population America has ever seen in the two hundred years of mass immigration over the southern border came after WW2 due to the booming economy, a time when America weas growing at five percent a year.

    The reason wages weren't stagnating then was the way the economy was set up -- strong unions meant that American labour got a much bigger piece of the national income pie than they do now and the ninety one percent top rate of tax helped keep a lid on inequality and the damaging economic effects of too big a percentage of national income being pumped into assets held by a handful of people. Prosperity was broadly shared and despite the huge numbers of wetbacks coming ober the border everybody did well in those decades. Wages only started to stagnate with the advent of Reagan and supply side economic policies which have slowed economic growth for everybody, created massive inequality of wealth and stagnated wages for forty years now, Trump's tax cut being the latest example of supply side failure.

    Mass immigration boosts economic growth and there are hundreds of years of evidence to prove this. Stagnant wages are not caused by mass immigration, they're caused by the economic policies of the political party who use immigration as an excuse for the ongoing unrelenting unbroken forty year failure* of their economic policies. This has been explained to you before in much greater detail but facts and evidence just bounce off you which is one of the reasons I have so much contempt for you.

    *But not failure for the people behind those policies! For those people these policies are an incredible success!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Yeah you're right rampant illegal immigration wouldn't have anything to do with wage stagnation.

    I do so love the contempt that you respond to me with. Every time. It's lovely, I must really irk you...and that just warms my heart
    Massive illegal immigration doesn't have anything to do with wage stagnation. If mass immigration over the southern border was bad for the American economy there'd be a double hundred foot wall between the Atlantic and the Pacific with a patrolled road in between the two walls. The highest level of immigration relative to population America has ever seen in the two hundred years of mass immigration over the southern border came after WW2 due to the booming economy, a time when America weas growing at five percent a year.

    The reason wages weren't stagnating then was the way the economy was set up -- strong unions meant that American labour got a much bigger piece of the national income pie than they do now and the ninety one percent top rate of tax helped keep a lid on inequality and the damaging economic effects of too big a percentage of national income being pumped into assets held by a handful of people. Prosperity was broadly shared and despite the huge numbers of wetbacks coming ober the border everybody did well in those decades. Wages only started to stagnate with the advent of Reagan and supply side economic policies which have slowed economic growth for everybody, created massive inequality of wealth and stagnated wages for forty years now, Trump's tax cut being the latest example of supply side failure.

    Mass immigration boosts economic growth and there are hundreds of years of evidence to prove this. Stagnant wages are not caused by mass immigration, they're caused by the economic policies of the political party who use immigration as an excuse for the ongoing unrelenting unbroken forty year failure* of their economic policies. This has been explained to you before in much greater detail but facts and evidence just bounce off you which is one of the reasons I have so much contempt for you.

    *But not failure for the people behind those policies! For those people these policies are an incredible success!

    It’s not about money it’s about votes. Why would people argue not to protect our border?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Yeah you're right rampant illegal immigration wouldn't have anything to do with wage stagnation.

    I do so love the contempt that you respond to me with. Every time. It's lovely, I must really irk you...and that just warms my heart
    Massive illegal immigration doesn't have anything to do with wage stagnation. If mass immigration over the southern border was bad for the American economy there'd be a double hundred foot wall between the Atlantic and the Pacific with a patrolled road in between the two walls. The highest level of immigration relative to population America has ever seen in the two hundred years of mass immigration over the southern border came after WW2 due to the booming economy, a time when America weas growing at five percent a year.

    The reason wages weren't stagnating then was the way the economy was set up -- strong unions meant that American labour got a much bigger piece of the national income pie than they do now and the ninety one percent top rate of tax helped keep a lid on inequality and the damaging economic effects of too big a percentage of national income being pumped into assets held by a handful of people. Prosperity was broadly shared and despite the huge numbers of wetbacks coming ober the border everybody did well in those decades. Wages only started to stagnate with the advent of Reagan and supply side economic policies which have slowed economic growth for everybody, created massive inequality of wealth and stagnated wages for forty years now, Trump's tax cut being the latest example of supply side failure.

    Mass immigration boosts economic growth and there are hundreds of years of evidence to prove this. Stagnant wages are not caused by mass immigration, they're caused by the economic policies of the political party who use immigration as an excuse for the ongoing unrelenting unbroken forty year failure* of their economic policies. This has been explained to you before in much greater detail but facts and evidence just bounce off you which is one of the reasons I have so much contempt for you.

    *But not failure for the people behind those policies! For those people these policies are an incredible success!

    It’s not about money it’s about votes. Why would people argue not to protect our border?
    Running a popular right wing movement on behalf of a bunch of plutocrats is no easy thing. You've got to use everything you've got whether it's furriners, abortion, god gays and guns and whatever else in order to get enough votes so you can then rob and loot the country while tossing enough red meat at these idiots to keep them distracted while you get on with the looting.

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    A couple things...

    Illegals aren't helping unions either comrade

    TAXATION is the issue with illegals. Less owners, less property taxes, more people, more people who don't even speak English, more gangs, those things mean worse schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Yeah you're right rampant illegal immigration wouldn't have anything to do with wage stagnation.

    I do so love the contempt that you respond to me with. Every time. It's lovely, I must really irk you...and that just warms my heart
    Massive illegal immigration doesn't have anything to do with wage stagnation. If mass immigration over the southern border was bad for the American economy there'd be a double hundred foot wall between the Atlantic and the Pacific with a patrolled road in between the two walls. The highest level of immigration relative to population America has ever seen in the two hundred years of mass immigration over the southern border came after WW2 due to the booming economy, a time when America weas growing at five percent a year.

    The reason wages weren't stagnating then was the way the economy was set up -- strong unions meant that American labour got a much bigger piece of the national income pie than they do now and the ninety one percent top rate of tax helped keep a lid on inequality and the damaging economic effects of too big a percentage of national income being pumped into assets held by a handful of people. Prosperity was broadly shared and despite the huge numbers of wetbacks coming ober the border everybody did well in those decades. Wages only started to stagnate with the advent of Reagan and supply side economic policies which have slowed economic growth for everybody, created massive inequality of wealth and stagnated wages for forty years now, Trump's tax cut being the latest example of supply side failure.

    Mass immigration boosts economic growth and there are hundreds of years of evidence to prove this. Stagnant wages are not caused by mass immigration, they're caused by the economic policies of the political party who use immigration as an excuse for the ongoing unrelenting unbroken forty year failure* of their economic policies. This has been explained to you before in much greater detail but facts and evidence just bounce off you which is one of the reasons I have so much contempt for you.

    *But not failure for the people behind those policies! For those people these policies are an incredible success!

    It’s not about money it’s about votes. Why would people argue not to protect our border?
    Running a popular right wing movement on behalf of a bunch of plutocrats is no easy thing. You've got to use everything you've got whether it's furriners, abortion, god gays and guns and whatever else in order to get enough votes so you can then rob and loot the country while tossing enough red meat at these idiots to keep them distracted while you get on with the looting.
    In the US we call it bread and circus

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    It’s good for parents to have an option to get their kids out of government run schools. Skip the whole gender thing and have a little input. This isn’t unique to you guys NY is working on this slowly but surely.

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