I must say..... I've seen people contradict themselves from one post to the next. Hell..... I've even done it myself. But I don't believe I've EVER seen anyone contradict themselves from one sentence to the next.


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I'm not arrogant enough to disregard the opinions of those who differ.

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Any fan who thinks a loss to a legend can be used as a stick to beat is a clown and deserve no respect whatsoever.

Still..... it's good to know that one can be a clown and deserve no respect whatsoever, and yet not have their opinion disregarded.



Let's reexamine the point about the Floyd-Canelo humiliating shutout fight one more time, for the benefit of those who STILL haven't understood the point.


The fact that you GET a fight with Floyd Mayweather, in and of itself, should not be used as a measure of your greatness. If you clamored long and hard enough.... and were granted a fight with Floyd.... and got summarily and predictably shut out and embarrassed.... you haven't proven a DAMN THING, other than you should have never gotten that fight in the first place. It happened to Hatton..... it happened to Canelo. Both had fan bases that DEMANDED a fight vs. Floyd as proof of their stupid and ridiculous p4p claims. What happened? The inevitable. At least Hatton can say he landed a few on Floyd before getting knocked out. Canelo can't even claim as much. Most of his punches missed by FEET.

Who has earned shots at Mayweather and fought competitive fights? Maidana, Cotto, Judah, Mosley, DLH. Hell..... even the MEGA showdown with Pacquiao, although hugely disappointing, was LIGHT-YEARS more competitive than the Canelo fiasco. Floyd Mayweather showed exactly how HUGE the chasm was between himself and Canelo. All Canelo did was show up and flail around for 12 rounds. Could've been 112 rounds.... Canelo would STILL be trying to touch him. AGAIN I mention that other fiasco, where Canelo knocked out a man half his size (and a weak chin to boot), Amir Khan. I suppose you give him all sorts of credit for that one too. And yet WE'RE the clowns. Priceless.

Tell you what. I gave you and Beanie 8 good reasons why Canelo is overrated. How about you coming up with ONE legitimate reason as to why you think he's (cough) underrated. Or better yet........ MASSIVELY underrated... LOL.

Before you attempt that ill-fated task, I'll kindly put the definition of "underrated" on here so you and your buddy can understand why you're wrong.

"underrated - underestimate the extent, value, or importance of (someone or something)"



Now..... is anybody here, including myself, underestimating Canelo's value or importance to boxing?? I'd say hell no. How about that? In fact, we all here recognize Canelo's value and importance to boxing more than you know. That is precisely the fact. Some of us here are all too aware of Canelo's importance to boxing. Unfortunately the dog and pony show which Canelo's entire career since Day One has worked to perfection. From the early coddling, record-padding years... to his carefully groomed status as a star (remember.... stardom and greatness are not one and the same).

Underrated? I think not.