What was your scorecard at the time of the Kov-Canelo fight stoppage?

[Ron Swanson]

I think many score with their hatred of Clanelo, maybe Klanvelev was slightly up but it seems to be ignored that the combination with :57 left in the round culminating with the chopping right with :54 left in the round staggered Klanvelev. It’s really no surprise he was KOed soon after.

At some point Clanelo has to get respect for having BY FAR the best resume in the game. Some debatable decisions but you get that when you fight SO MANY top guys.

Would love to see a more talented fighter like Loma or Crawford start fighting the quality opponents like Clanelo does.(without stacking the deck as Clanelo does)

[Spicoli]

Had it 7-3 for Kovalez as well at the time of the stoppage. Talk of Kovalez fighting like a terrified fragile little ol man is a bit much but in fairness he did collapse like the ceiling fell in on him. He was boxing behind the jab maybe preserving a lead and working a smart plan, it happens after all. It was known he could be a disciplined boxer going in regardless of all the 'Krusher' stuff. Canelo has matured to be pretty methodical and calculating but he was pretty straight line and the vaunted body attack was largely left back at the hotel suite. Loved the conclusion either way as clearly it was headed to yet another three blind mice iffy reading of the cards. Didn't think it was so boring and the feel of 'just a matter of time before he gets clipped' never really kicked it, probably one of the more sudden and rapid turn arounds I can remember lately and all credit to Canelo for lowering the boom.

[powerpuncher]

I think many score with their hatred of Clanelo, maybe Klanvelev was slightly up but it seems to be ignored that the combination with :57 left in the round culminating with the chopping right with :54 left in the round staggered Klanvelev. It’s really no surprise he was KOed soon after.

At some point Clanelo has to get respect for having BY FAR the best resume in the game. Some debatable decisions but you get that when you fight SO MANY top guys.

Would love to see a more talented fighter like Loma or Crawford start fighting the quality opponents like Clanelo does.(without stacking the deck as Clanelo does)

Agreed about Loma but Crawford cleaned out his division and is wanting to clean out welterweight too. Crawford could jump up and weight drain J rock and beat him too. I’m more hoping that other welters will actually fight him.

It’s easy to get the fights you want when you are giving everyone their biggest payday and you dictate all of the terms. So I agree that he does have a better resume, but as I’ve said many times before, there are a handful of fighters that could do the same thing or even better if given the same opportunities.

Canelo is really good, but I would much rather him just clean out a division instead of jumping around and picking and choosing who he gets to fight to make “history.”

[THE THIRD MAN]

96 - 94 Kovalev...

[Gandalf]

It seems the consensus is that Kovalev was up by between 2 to 6 points with a few arguing it was even. Nobody had Canelo up. I still think Kovalev fought a strange fight and something about it all felt a bit off for me. I can understand wanting to use a jab, but only the jab and not jab to the body more and not to use it with any degree of force at all?

Something about it doesn't sit right with me. Was Kovalev gun shy after being hurt again in the last fight and being stopped a year before that too? Was he scared about his stamina? If so it is strange as Canelo has stamina issues and if pounded to the body or head would have had to take note himself. I won't say fix, but it was odd and even with that oddness Kovalev was still winning the fight handily by sparring and seemingly not trying to hurt his opponent.

He seemed too happy before and after and maybe he is at peace and was happy with the payday and knows his time is up. I hope it wasn't the case, but it would have been nice to see some intensity and to try a few different looks. It was a weird latter day Wlad style showing. Effective, but kind of underwhelming.

[Ron Swanson]

Well, if it was a woman in there I’m sure he would have been more aggressive. People can take comfort knowing that.

[powerpuncher]

It seems the consensus is that Kovalev was up by between 2 to 6 points with a few arguing it was even. Nobody had Canelo up. I still think Kovalev fought a strange fight and something about it all felt a bit off for me. I can understand wanting to use a jab, but only the jab and not jab to the body more and not to use it with any degree of force at all?

Something about it doesn't sit right with me. Was Kovalev gun shy after being hurt again in the last fight and being stopped a year before that too? Was he scared about his stamina? If so it is strange as Canelo has stamina issues and if pounded to the body or head would have had to take note himself. I won't say fix, but it was odd and even with that oddness Kovalev was still winning the fight handily by sparring and seemingly not trying to hurt his opponent.

He seemed too happy before and after and maybe he is at peace and was happy with the payday and knows his time is up. I hope it wasn't the case, but it would have been nice to see some intensity and to try a few different looks. It was a weird latter day Wlad style showing. Effective, but kind of underwhelming.

I don’t want to sound like a complete Canelo hater or conspiracy theorist, but this whole thing has seemed fishy. When I first heard people talking about this being rigged, I completely dismissed it. I’m not claiming anything definitive, but I do agree that this whole thing seemed a bit strange.

I’m honestly trying to be neutral, but I’ve never felt like this for any other fight. There are so many oddities surrounding it.

[Gandalf]

It seems the consensus is that Kovalev was up by between 2 to 6 points with a few arguing it was even. Nobody had Canelo up. I still think Kovalev fought a strange fight and something about it all felt a bit off for me. I can understand wanting to use a jab, but only the jab and not jab to the body more and not to use it with any degree of force at all?

Something about it doesn't sit right with me. Was Kovalev gun shy after being hurt again in the last fight and being stopped a year before that too? Was he scared about his stamina? If so it is strange as Canelo has stamina issues and if pounded to the body or head would have had to take note himself. I won't say fix, but it was odd and even with that oddness Kovalev was still winning the fight handily by sparring and seemingly not trying to hurt his opponent.

He seemed too happy before and after and maybe he is at peace and was happy with the payday and knows his time is up. I hope it wasn't the case, but it would have been nice to see some intensity and to try a few different looks. It was a weird latter day Wlad style showing. Effective, but kind of underwhelming.

I don’t want to sound like a complete Canelo hater or conspiracy theorist, but this whole thing has seemed fishy. When I first heard people talking about this being rigged, I completely dismissed it. I’m not claiming anything definitive, but I do agree that this whole thing seemed a bit strange.

I’m honestly trying to be neutral, but I’ve never felt like this for any other fight. There are so many oddities surrounding it.

I agree. Even the fight being made sounded strange. Then we hear that Kovalev had little preparation time, had just had a tough fight. A few days before we hear about the weight clause. Then Kovalev comes to the ring first. The strange card they kept popping up. The awful commentary. The peculiar style from Kovalev. Something seems off.

Maybe not a set up, but there are indications of it. Kovalev was winning by just staying away, yet he always at least tries to land something big and why wouldn't you at least when fresh against Canelo. There was every chance Canelo could be put down like Hopkins or Ward. There was none of of that from Kovalev. Surely he saw that GGG rocked Canelo several times and had him retreating. Just very weird, then the card on screen that made no sense to me and Kovalev just seeming so....happy.

Who knows, maybe he got hurt in sparring or something and with the damage in the last fight felt on his last legs, but it was strange. Don't get me wrong, I had him up and keeping a dwarf at bay as one should, but there should have been some hurt with it. Canelo hasn't been stopping anyone and Manny only went up and stopped Oscar with accumulation and output. Canelo had no output at all.

Just weird.

[Fenster]

For fucks sake, what an embarrassment, I thought this "staged" lark was from the youtube race baiter paranoid spastic channels

You people shouldn't be allowed to watch boxing. Maxim Dadashev died a few months back after his trainer, Buddy McGirt (Kovalev's trainer), pulled him out of a fight in the 11th round. Just last month Patrick Day never woke up after getting knocked out.

Kovalev was bludgeoned unconscious, he spent the night in hospital not a fucking nightclub divvying up the winnings.