Gervonta Davis v Yuriorkis Gamboa

[Alpha]

Interesting that with Ortiz it’s old old old, not good. With Gamboa it’s old old old, not talented. But with Donaire all I hear is good good good. On the downside, but good. I don’t know what it says but it’s interesting. I don’t know what’s different in these scenarios, just catches my eye that 3 very similar situations are looked at so vastly differently. I mean, Inoue has become number 1 P4P off beating a guy of equal age. Because the old guy gave him hell. What if Gamboa gives Tank hell? He gave Crawford some major issues. Sure that was a long time ago but we could say “Donaire gave Rigo no issues at all, long ago”

I’m hoping for a good fight and Tank to move on to bigger things, it’s time if he has it in him.

Over roughly the last year Donaire had got a win over a unified belt holder, Gamboa best win was a shot to pieces Martinez. I don't Inoue at #1 P4P, but he is up there and it has nothing to do with the Donaire fight. If anything he slipped a little, but he did fight with an injury and won pretty clear, although taking a fair amount of punishment.

[powerpuncher]

Interesting that with Ortiz it’s old old old, not good. With Gamboa it’s old old old, not talented. But with Donaire all I hear is good good good. On the downside, but good. I don’t know what it says but it’s interesting. I don’t know what’s different in these scenarios, just catches my eye that 3 very similar situations are looked at so vastly differently. I mean, Inoue has become number 1 P4P off beating a guy of equal age. Because the old guy gave him hell. What if Gamboa gives Tank hell? He gave Crawford some major issues. Sure that was a long time ago but we could say “Donaire gave Rigo no issues at all, long ago”

I’m hoping for a good fight and Tank to move on to bigger things, it’s time if he has it in him.

Over roughly the last year Donaire had got a win over a unified belt holder, Gamboa best win was a shot to pieces Martinez. I don't Inoue at #1 P4P, but he is up there and it has nothing to do with the Donaire fight. If anything he slipped a little, but he did fight with an injury and won pretty clear, although taking a fair amount of punishment.

Donaire went back down in weight where he belonged and showed that he still had something left in the tank. He starting losing when he went up in weight. But like Alpha said, if anything, Inoue slipped a little from how I saw him. He did fracture his orbital in the second or third round I think so he did well considering that.

Gamboa isn’t a push over, but he hasn’t proven anything as of late that he has rejuvenated his career. I do think that Gamboa is a live dog, but the difference is that Inoue fought top contenders in previous bouts. Tank has not.

I thought Wilder bearing Ortiz was a good win. His age gets overstated. Ortiz hasn’t really shown his age in his fights. Ever since I first watched him fight, he hasn’t really changed. The only thing you could say is maybe his chin is weaker with age but that’s just speculation.

[Alpha]

Interesting that with Ortiz it’s old old old, not good. With Gamboa it’s old old old, not talented. But with Donaire all I hear is good good good. On the downside, but good. I don’t know what it says but it’s interesting. I don’t know what’s different in these scenarios, just catches my eye that 3 very similar situations are looked at so vastly differently. I mean, Inoue has become number 1 P4P off beating a guy of equal age. Because the old guy gave him hell. What if Gamboa gives Tank hell? He gave Crawford some major issues. Sure that was a long time ago but we could say “Donaire gave Rigo no issues at all, long ago”

I’m hoping for a good fight and Tank to move on to bigger things, it’s time if he has it in him.

Over roughly the last year Donaire had got a win over a unified belt holder, Gamboa best win was a shot to pieces Martinez. I don't Inoue at #1 P4P, but he is up there and it has nothing to do with the Donaire fight. If anything he slipped a little, but he did fight with an injury and won pretty clear, although taking a fair amount of punishment.

Donaire went back down in weight where he belonged and showed that he still had something left in the tank. He starting losing when he went up in weight. But like Alpha said, if anything, Inoue slipped a little from how I saw him. He did fracture his orbital in the second or third round I think so he did well considering that.

Gamboa isn’t a push over, but he hasn’t proven anything as of late that he has rejuvenated his career. I do think that Gamboa is a live dog, but the difference is that Inoue fought top contenders in previous bouts. Tank has not.

I thought Wilder bearing Ortiz was a good win. His age gets overstated. Ortiz hasn’t really shown his age in his fights. Ever since I first watched him fight, he hasn’t really changed. The only thing you could say is maybe his chin is weaker with age but that’s just speculation.

Ortiz was a good win, he was a top 10 guy. It would be a stretch to get Gamboa in the top 10 at 135. Also after today, I'm confident in saying Donaire would have beaten Tete. Lets have Inoue vs Oubaali and Donaire vs Casimero.

[powerpuncher]

Interesting that with Ortiz it’s old old old, not good. With Gamboa it’s old old old, not talented. But with Donaire all I hear is good good good. On the downside, but good. I don’t know what it says but it’s interesting. I don’t know what’s different in these scenarios, just catches my eye that 3 very similar situations are looked at so vastly differently. I mean, Inoue has become number 1 P4P off beating a guy of equal age. Because the old guy gave him hell. What if Gamboa gives Tank hell? He gave Crawford some major issues. Sure that was a long time ago but we could say “Donaire gave Rigo no issues at all, long ago”

I’m hoping for a good fight and Tank to move on to bigger things, it’s time if he has it in him.

Over roughly the last year Donaire had got a win over a unified belt holder, Gamboa best win was a shot to pieces Martinez. I don't Inoue at #1 P4P, but he is up there and it has nothing to do with the Donaire fight. If anything he slipped a little, but he did fight with an injury and won pretty clear, although taking a fair amount of punishment.

Donaire went back down in weight where he belonged and showed that he still had something left in the tank. He starting losing when he went up in weight. But like Alpha said, if anything, Inoue slipped a little from how I saw him. He did fracture his orbital in the second or third round I think so he did well considering that.

Gamboa isn’t a push over, but he hasn’t proven anything as of late that he has rejuvenated his career. I do think that Gamboa is a live dog, but the difference is that Inoue fought top contenders in previous bouts. Tank has not.

I thought Wilder bearing Ortiz was a good win. His age gets overstated. Ortiz hasn’t really shown his age in his fights. Ever since I first watched him fight, he hasn’t really changed. The only thing you could say is maybe his chin is weaker with age but that’s just speculation.

Ortiz was a good win, he was a top 10 guy. It would be a stretch to get Gamboa in the top 10 at 135. Also after today, I'm confident in saying Donaire would have beaten Tete. Lets have Inoue vs Oubaali and Donaire vs Casimero.

I assumed that they would put Inoue against Casimero. A very winnable fight that is against a title holder

[Fenster]

Donaire is in a different stratosphere to Gamboa and Ortiz, not just the fact he was still a current highly rated "world" champion but his past accomplishments. He was underrated against Inoue. Boxing fans are too quick to write off proven world-class fighters. Class is permanent.

Donaire - four weight "world" champion, Ring Belt Champion, defeated thirteen former/future "world" champions, 2012 Fighter of the Year, 2007 Upset of the Year, 2007, 2011 KO of the Year, spent four years concurrent top six P4P rated (Ring). First Ballot HOF. Fact.

Gamboa - former featherweight "world" champion, defeated 6 former "world" champions. No chance HOF. Fact.

Ortiz - ZERO x "world" champion, defeated ZERO former/current champions. No chance HOF. Fact.

[Ron Swanson]

Donaire is in a different stratosphere to Gamboa and Ortiz, not just the fact he was still a current highly rated "world" champion but his past accomplishments. He was underrated against Inoue. Boxing fans are too quick to write off proven world-class fighters. Class is permanent.

Donaire - four weight "world" champion, Ring Belt Champion, defeated thirteen former/future "world" champions, 2012 Fighter of the Year, 2007 Upset of the Year, 2007, 2011 KO of the Year, spent four years concurrent top six P4P rated (Ring). First Ballot HOF. Fact.

Gamboa - former featherweight "world" champion, defeated 6 former "world" champions. No chance HOF. Fact.

Ortiz - ZERO x "world" champion, defeated ZERO former/current champions. No chance HOF. Fact.

You still claiming Miguel Marriaga coming off a loss and moving up in weight is a good opponent? 3 world title opportunities, 3 losses. Bunch of bums otherwise but wins your favor because you like the opponent, fact. Is it that you are a terrible judge of talent or that you have an agenda?

You are so obvious. Marriaga is good but Gamboa isn’t, GTFOOH with your BS. I see right through you. Everyone will eventually because you are so obvious and I’ll just keep pointing out your double standards and they’ll catch on to exactly when they appl. You can’t do the same thing every time forever before people see it

[powerpuncher]

Donaire is in a different stratosphere to Gamboa and Ortiz, not just the fact he was still a current highly rated "world" champion but his past accomplishments. He was underrated against Inoue. Boxing fans are too quick to write off proven world-class fighters. Class is permanent.

Donaire - four weight "world" champion, Ring Belt Champion, defeated thirteen former/future "world" champions, 2012 Fighter of the Year, 2007 Upset of the Year, 2007, 2011 KO of the Year, spent four years concurrent top six P4P rated (Ring). First Ballot HOF. Fact.

Gamboa - former featherweight "world" champion, defeated 6 former "world" champions. No chance HOF. Fact.

Ortiz - ZERO x "world" champion, defeated ZERO former/current champions. No chance HOF. Fact.

You still claiming Miguel Marriaga coming off a loss and moving up in weight is a good opponent? 3 world title opportunities, 3 losses. Bunch of bums otherwise but wins your favor because you like the opponent, fact. Is it that you are a terrible judge of talent or that you have an agenda?

You are so obvious. Marriaga is good but Gamboa isn’t, GTFOOH with your BS. I see right through you. Everyone will eventually because you are so obvious and I’ll just keep pointing out your double standards and they’ll catch on to exactly when they appl. You can’t do the same thing every time forever before people see it

Maybe you should just start ignoring Fenster. You are trying to make him look bad but you just make yourself look bad because you are so obsessed with him. You claim that you just have a certain type of “attitude,” but come across as very vengeful as if you had something traumatic happen to you as a kid and now want all those who have wronged you or anyone like that to suffer.

If something traumatic did happen to you then I truly am sorry. That’s awful. I just want you to know that there are better and more healthy ways to deal with it.

[Ron Swanson]

Interesting that with Ortiz it’s old old old, not good. With Gamboa it’s old old old, not talented. But with Donaire all I hear is good good good. On the downside, but good. I don’t know what it says but it’s interesting. I don’t know what’s different in these scenarios, just catches my eye that 3 very similar situations are looked at so vastly differently. I mean, Inoue has become number 1 P4P off beating a guy of equal age. Because the old guy gave him hell. What if Gamboa gives Tank hell? He gave Crawford some major issues. Sure that was a long time ago but we could say “Donaire gave Rigo no issues at all, long ago”

I’m hoping for a good fight and Tank to move on to bigger things, it’s time if he has it in him.

Over roughly the last year Donaire had got a win over a unified belt holder, Gamboa best win was a shot to pieces Martinez. I don't Inoue at #1 P4P, but he is up there and it has nothing to do with the Donaire fight. If anything he slipped a little, but he did fight with an injury and won pretty clear, although taking a fair amount of punishment.

Well, by many accounts Inoue moved up precisely off this fight. I don’t lower him at all. He’s been high with me and stays high with me. I just want him to learn some defense or he will get KOed before too long. Well, not now that he’s with TR because their matchmaker is the best in the business. But his defense is too leaky to have his chin in the air as he does.

Same weight as Rigo now right, hmmm

[Alpha]

Interesting that with Ortiz it’s old old old, not good. With Gamboa it’s old old old, not talented. But with Donaire all I hear is good good good. On the downside, but good. I don’t know what it says but it’s interesting. I don’t know what’s different in these scenarios, just catches my eye that 3 very similar situations are looked at so vastly differently. I mean, Inoue has become number 1 P4P off beating a guy of equal age. Because the old guy gave him hell. What if Gamboa gives Tank hell? He gave Crawford some major issues. Sure that was a long time ago but we could say “Donaire gave Rigo no issues at all, long ago”

I’m hoping for a good fight and Tank to move on to bigger things, it’s time if he has it in him.

Over roughly the last year Donaire had got a win over a unified belt holder, Gamboa best win was a shot to pieces Martinez. I don't Inoue at #1 P4P, but he is up there and it has nothing to do with the Donaire fight. If anything he slipped a little, but he did fight with an injury and won pretty clear, although taking a fair amount of punishment.

Well, by many accounts Inoue moved up precisely off this fight. I don’t lower him at all. He’s been high with me and stays high with me. I just want him to learn some defense or he will get KOed before too long. Well, not now that he’s with TR because their matchmaker is the best in the business. But his defense is too leaky to have his chin in the air as he does.

Same weight as Rigo now right, hmmm

I can only speak for myself. Before the Donaire fight I had Inoue right on Usyk's heals. As of now there's a bit of breathing room. Like I said, he's up there, he's 3 divisions north of where he started and who knows who Donaire would be seen had he stayed at 118. Is Rigo still fighting Solis at 118 or has that fight fallen through? Rigo was always small at 122 for me, but for Inoue it would be another fight where if he struggles at all, you will get the casuals claiming he was exposed, overrated etc. I think it would be another good fight and another good name on Inoue's record, but there are also other good fights to be made for Inoue at 118.