Is Andy Ruiz's career over? (Physically AND mentally)

[Gandalf]

So true Gandalf. But do you know what prefigures hard work and dedication and discipline? A person's mental health which they have developed from their childhood. If the state of their mental health is such that they just cannot get it together cognitively or emotionally, THEN THERE WILL NOT BE A DAMN BIT OF HARD WORK OR DISCIPLINE OR DEDICATION -- at least not enough to make much of a difference.

See, you brought all this childhood trauma stuff up in a thread about Andy Ruiz.

I happened to agree with you that it might be a factor, but just disagreed that a bad childhood means you must ruin a career. In some cases yes, in other cases not so much.

[Fenster]

You guys need to stop writing fighters off after losses.

Buster has ballooned in weight throughout his career, he only has to lose 15lb of blubber to be Joshua 1 weight. I can sell his comeback let alone the brains he has behind him (Al Haymon).

Buster-vs-Wilder is a great stylistic matchup. Exciting fight. Ruiz showed a near granite chin against Joshua, and he sure as shit is the superior natural boxer to Wilder. Wilder can't dance, he can't adapt, so can he land his sniper righthand before Ruiz punches holes in him up close? Great fight?

[Ron Swanson]

So true Gandalf. But do you know what prefigures hard work and dedication and discipline? A person's mental health which they have developed from their childhood. If the state of their mental health is such that they just cannot get it together cognitively or emotionally, THEN THERE WILL NOT BE A DAMN BIT OF HARD WORK OR DISCIPLINE OR DEDICATION -- at least not enough to make much of a difference.

See, you brought all this childhood trauma stuff up in a thread about Andy Ruiz.

I happened to agree with you that it might be a factor, but just disagreed that a bad childhood means you must ruin a career. In some cases yes, in other cases not so much.

Read it again, it doesn’t say that a bad childhood means you must ruin a career.

But the whole thread is interesting. People’s opinions change so much from fight to fight. Andy is who he was a month ago. A month ago he was who he was in May. He can buckle down and get right back top 10 or he can eat his way to early retirement, we’ll see.

[Fatboxingfan]

So true Gandalf. But do you know what prefigures hard work and dedication and discipline? A person's mental health which they have developed from their childhood. If the state of their mental health is such that they just cannot get it together cognitively or emotionally, THEN THERE WILL NOT BE A DAMN BIT OF HARD WORK OR DISCIPLINE OR DEDICATION -- at least not enough to make much of a difference.

See, you brought all this childhood trauma stuff up in a thread about Andy Ruiz.

I happened to agree with you that it might be a factor, but just disagreed that a bad childhood means you must ruin a career. In some cases yes, in other cases not so much.

Read it again, it doesn’t say that a bad childhood means you must ruin a career.

But the whole thread is interesting. People’s opinions change so much from fight to fight. Andy is who he was a month ago. A month ago he was who he was in May. He can buckle down and get right back top 10 or he can eat his way to early retirement, we’ll see.

@Ron Swanson thank you man. You are right it doesn't say that at all. This guy likes to put words in people's mouths. Thinks he has all the answers. At 38 years old FFS.

and thanks for saying it's an interesting thread. I thought so too 😁. I'm hoping that Andy makes a big effort.

Imagine if Andy could come into the ring at 250 lb. I think he might be unstoppable. Definitely an iron chin even at 295 lbs hahaha and the once or twice that he hit Joshua in the rematch you could see that Joshua was really shaking up for a moment

[J_Undisputed]

He'll be back because the heavyweight division is thin as far as challengers go. Also if he blew threw his money that fast, it shouldn't take him long to run out completely and he'll be back for more. He'll be the next stiverne, sam peter or something... champ turned on the bubble guy. I dont understand who guys like this get handed this kind of upturn in life and not see it as a sign to get their Sh*t together. 5 seconds later.... "will this Rolls fit through a drive thru? cuz if not... i'm not buying it..."

[Fatboxingfan]

Hahaha J Undisputed nails it! ✌️👍