Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan View Post
So true Gandalf. But do you know what prefigures hard work and dedication and discipline? A person's mental health which they have developed from their childhood. If the state of their mental health is such that they just cannot get it together cognitively or emotionally, THEN THERE WILL NOT BE A DAMN BIT OF HARD WORK OR DISCIPLINE OR DEDICATION -- at least not enough to make much of a difference.
See, you brought all this childhood trauma stuff up in a thread about Andy Ruiz.

I happened to agree with you that it might be a factor, but just disagreed that a bad childhood means you must ruin a career. In some cases yes, in other cases not so much.
Read it again, it doesn’t say that a bad childhood means you must ruin a career.

But the whole thread is interesting. People’s opinions change so much from fight to fight. Andy is who he was a month ago. A month ago he was who he was in May. He can buckle down and get right back top 10 or he can eat his way to early retirement, we’ll see.