Life Expenses in the UK

[p4pking]

This whole you two pretending to feud is a lark.

[Gandalf]

This whole you two pretending to feud is a lark.

What is even stranger is that we are the same person!

I get that wages for some like Amy are low, but surely she considered transportation and wages before starting the job and she gets support for her council home rent. She is an enigma.

People like Amy are the exception rather than the norm. There are hundreds of jobs that require skills and qualifications but you need to work for it. I know a chap who went home from here to study speech therapy as he knows there are jobs at the end and it will pay. It just requires a bit of common sense and a modicum of smarts.

Tommy Robinson gets mocked by the snobs on here, but he made money by learning and working hard. Many do from your Al's, to your X's, to others like Master and Memphis who hold down steady decent work.

Why didn't they go wrong? It is because we often end up where we are by the choices we make. This is where child nurture is key so that we do not end up with Amy's. It isn't the government that made her ignore skills and having the ambition to obtain the skills to do something.

I also do not understand where all her money is going. She is probably paying 300 quid a month rent or something.

[Memphis]

If I were a single person I'd be proper fucked off if I was blowing 200 quid a month on food. I don't spend that much now, not even close. We eat well, proper food, meat, veg, fruit. Occasionally chuck a pizza in the oven. I'd consider that quite normal.

I think Amy isn't on a full time wage.

There's always something lurking. I'd wager in most cases it's smoking. Struggling to buy or pay for the essentials but the fags remain. Not suggesting that's the case with Amy.

My Mrs is a proper grafter. Has been since 13, two jobs right through until college, working evenings and weekends at college, full time job plus weekend work. Still at it now, works 6 days a week most weeks. You'd think that was something instilled in her by her parents. Her parents are proper lazy, her words not mine. Always considered work a nasty word, didn't/still don't want to do it. She routinely props them up financially because they've run out of the essentials, can't pay a bill. Still smoking though.

Just to add. I appreciate that there are genuine people genuinely struggling for one reason or another. In my experience though, there's a clear and avoidable reason. Personally if ever I've been skint, I know exactly why and that it was in most cases avoidable. I'm going to buy this, or go here, or do that. It'll clean me out but fuck it, I'm doing it anyway.

[Gandalf]

Well said, Memphis. That's my take on it too. There is something up with Amy and she is likely playing it up. I have been skint and it wasn't because there wasn't money coming in, it was simply because I was young and reckless with it. I turned around completely in my mid 20's and find it easy without earning a fortune. You just need to avoid going to the pub and drinking 8 pints a night, ordering take aways several days a week, and for sure avoid the cigs. You save a fortune on that alone. Have a cig, have a drink, have a pizza, but understand moderation.

I honestly think poverty is often a choice and many want to take you for a mug with the hard luck stories. Seen it all too often in my life. All that 'I could be dead tomorrow so I better spend now' nonsense. Good luck with that when you are not dead. It will probably rain at some point though. Be prepared.

[Dia bando]

Miles mate poverty is not a choice let's say you fuck up loose your job your wife fucks off your broke.
Right no job your wife taken your money you lost your house your head has gone.
On the streets POVERTY mate does not take much that just a example of what can go wrong.

[Fatboxingfan]

Miles mate poverty is not a choice let's say you fuck up loose your job your wife fucks off your broke.
Right no job your wife taken your money you lost your house your head has gone.
On the streets POVERTY mate does not take much that just a example of what can go wrong.

Myles definitely oversimplifies things

[Beanz]

Miles mate poverty is not a choice let's say you fuck up loose your job your wife fucks off your broke.
Right no job your wife taken your money you lost your house your head has gone.
On the streets POVERTY mate does not take much that just a example of what can go wrong.

Myles definitely oversimplifies things

It is like reverse virtue signalling. Being a Devil's advocate for it's own sake to the point where it is completely bizarre.

[Fatboxingfan]

Miles , as of September 1st 2019 in the United kingdom there are 344,000 homeless people. In addition to that there are another 46,000 British households on the brink at high risk becoming homeless

[Gandalf]

Miles , as of September 1st 2019 in the United kingdom there are 344,000 homeless people. In addition to that there are another 46,000 British households on the brink at high risk becoming homeless

Speaking for myself, we were homeless because my father who had a job went out drinking every night, had a wife who wouldn't do much, then couldn't afford the rent and then put to sleep dog and boom....homelessness. It was a self inflicted sequence of events and they did it to themselves. Thankfully because there were children the Tories were kind and I learned so much from that experience that I chose a good wife, then decided to save like a man, and at the same age my Dad did that to us bought a home in cash with no mortgage thus showing how life can be done. It was simply about making better judgment calls.

[Fatboxingfan]

millions of people are perfectly normal until they reach their mid-30s or late 30s and then they have what is known as late onset mental illness. Just from one day to the next that is why they call it late onset. Millions and millions of people like that and there's nothing they can do to simply be on their toes as you put it and to try to get their lives back. Then you have people in tornadoes and earthquakes and hurricanes who go from one minute to the next abject poverty through no fault of their own and perhaps can never get it together again. Then you have people living under dictatorships and tyrants who do not Foster an economic environment in which people could actually thrive and so those people to the tune of tens of millions or let's say hundreds of millions in the cases of China and India have no hope of ever getting out of poverty. Now for you to say they should stop having children really doesn't do much for the situation because they are already living on two pennies per day and even if they had no kids would still be in abject poverty with no way out we are talking about hundreds of millions of people here. It's not about them being on their toes

[Gandalf]

millions of people are perfectly normal until they reach their mid-30s or late 30s and then they have what is known as late onset mental illness. Just from one day to the next that is why they call it late onset. Millions and millions of people like that and there's nothing they can do to simply be on their toes as you put it and to try to get their lives back. Then you have people in tornadoes and earthquakes and hurricanes who go from one minute to the next abject poverty through no fault of their own and perhaps can never get it together again. Then you have people living under dictatorships and tyrants who do not Foster an economic environment in which people could actually thrive and so those people to the tune of tens of millions or let's say hundreds of millions in the cases of China and India have no hope of ever getting out of poverty. Now for you to say they should stop having children really doesn't do much for the situation because they are already living on two pennies per day and even if they had no kids would still be in abject poverty with no way out we are talking about hundreds of millions of people here. It's not about them being on their toes

This is actually a thread about life expenses in the UK. A place where they give you benefits if you genuinely cannot work or temporarily lose your job or have a baby etc. It's not like China.