Is it wrong to decry the decline of world leadership quality?

[TitoFan]

It sounds like you're getting just a taaaaaad judgemental but given your hatred and discussed I can easily understand that as I have many times done the same thing in my life. You see I am Fair. I understand The human condition. I understand rage I understand anger I understand human reactions and human behavior and I have compassion and mercy and empathy

I clearly understand your position. I just don't care too much for hold in such high importance most of the complaints that you're making about Trump. I can easily see how it would upset people however who do hold those things in high regard

I think Donald Trump is very very funny and very very honest and I also think he hits the nail on the head and a very down-to-earth streetwize Manor. That is something that Obama and other career politicians with shiny shoes and polished teleprompter phony personalities will never be able to do.

Judgmental? Oh..... was it the "So fucking what" line? Was that what did it?

Let me give you a friendly tidbit on the English language, seeing as to how you being (cough, snicker)..... "French" and all.

Judgmental is not when someone's opinion differs from your own. That's just difference of opinion.

Hope this helps.




Also.... you (gag, hack) "understand the human condition"? You (these are all direct quotes, by the way)..... (muffled laugh)..... "have compassion and mercy and empathy"?

So tell me then...... this latest gem from Trump where he trashes a DEAD, former member of Congress, who also happened to be a war veteran..... in front of an adoring, brainwashed public..... cracking jokes of the dead.......

Does that qualify as compassion and mercy and empathy?




Please Br...... er......Fats..... don't make me trash your arguments.

I take no pleasure in ramming B.S. arguments into the ground.

When u said "...But to confuse being anti-PC with being a bigot, sexist, moronic, off-the-hip insult hurling bully......... well that's being just a taa-a-a-ad shortsighted."...... I thought you were judging me, but maybe I need the context wrong.

to answer your question I thought it was really funny when he said maybe that lady's husband was looking up instead of looking down. I think that is hysterical. If we cannot laugh at things like that we are taking life way too seriously. But that's just my opinion

And as I've said, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

In MY opinion, the phrase "there's a time and a place for everything" exists for a reason.

I happen to think that having someone show up at someone else's funeral and begin an impromptu roast of the deceased is probably just a ta-a-a-ad (I know you like that word) in bad taste.

You may have a differing opinion, which is fine.

Humor is great. Knowing when to use it and when not to is even better.

[Fatboxingfan]

Trump didn't show up at the funeral and say that he said at a rally

[TitoFan]

Oh...... that makes it so much more acceptable.

[El Kabong]

Oh...... that makes it so much more acceptable.

I guess they should impeach him for it then

[TitoFan]

I honestly don't give a rat's ass about impeachment. It's still in bad taste, just like everything else that comes out of that big mouth coupled with that feeble brain.

But....... I guess it IS wrong to decry the decline of world leadership quality.

[Fatboxingfan]

But....... I guess it IS wrong to decry the decline of world leadership quality.

No no I disagree with that. In fact it is not wrong at all. It is your opinion just like we all have our own and no opinion can be wrong because an opinion by definition is a subjective call.

[El Kabong]

I honestly don't give a rat's ass about impeachment. It's still in bad taste, just like everything else that comes out of that big mouth coupled with that feeble brain.

But....... I guess it IS wrong to decry the decline of world leadership quality.

I don't think so. I just think absence makes the heart grow fonder. You think THIS "Speaking ill of the dead" is bad....John Adams called Alexander Hamilton "The bastard brat of a scotch pedler", Franklin Pierce was called "pimp of the White House", John Quincy Adams called Andrew Jackson's wife an "adulteress" which are actually quite brave words considering Richard Lawrence, who attempted to assassinate President Jackson had 2 pistols misfire (thanks to the damp weather) and Jackson summarily bludgeoned him with his cane. Thomas Jefferson hired a journalist who called John Adams "hermaphriditic", a journalist called Grover Cleveland a "moral leper". And it's not just Americans that have done this...Benjamin Disraeli said of Robert Peel "The right honorable gentleman's smile was like the silver plate on a coffin", Disraeli said of William Ewart Gladstone "If Gladstone fell into the Thames, that would be a misfortune. If anyone were to pull him out, I suppose that would be a calamity". Churchill said of Lloyd George "He would make a drum out of the skin of his own mother in order to sound his own praises"...sooo yeah there's that.

I think this "Well back in the day, leaders had couth and class" is a nice sentiment, but it's not the truth. If history should teach us anything it's that there's no "The good old days" there's no "Things were more kind then" there's no "people were gentler and held themselves to a higher standard" if anything people were more brutal back then.


But that's MY take....was Trump wrong for bringing up Dingell? Probably, but no more wrong than Dingell's widow voting for impeachment.....and THAT picture will become more clear in the coming months.

[Fatboxingfan]

@TitoFan you gave an example of somebody showing up at a funeral to roast the deceased. it is quite similar to your bringing up the fact that Trump said something about the deceased husband in a derogatory manner. It's not that examples are not acceptable it's that the example you chose is so practically identical to Trump's comment on the deceased that it looked like you were claiming that Trump did it at the guys funeral itself!

Sheesh, you can be a tough one sometimes.

[walrus]

I honestly don't give a rat's ass about impeachment. It's still in bad taste, just like everything else that comes out of that big mouth coupled with that feeble brain.

But....... I guess it IS wrong to decry the decline of world leadership quality.

I don't think so. I just think absence makes the heart grow fonder. You think THIS "Speaking ill of the dead" is bad....John Adams called Alexander Hamilton "The bastard brat of a scotch pedler", Franklin Pierce was called "pimp of the White House", John Quincy Adams called Andrew Jackson's wife an "adulteress" which are actually quite brave words considering Richard Lawrence, who attempted to assassinate President Jackson had 2 pistols misfire (thanks to the damp weather) and Jackson summarily bludgeoned him with his cane. Thomas Jefferson hired a journalist who called John Adams "hermaphriditic", a journalist called Grover Cleveland a "moral leper". And it's not just Americans that have done this...Benjamin Disraeli said of Robert Peel "The right honorable gentleman's smile was like the silver plate on a coffin", Disraeli said of William Ewart Gladstone "If Gladstone fell into the Thames, that would be a misfortune. If anyone were to pull him out, I suppose that would be a calamity". Churchill said of Lloyd George "He would make a drum out of the skin of his own mother in order to sound his own praises"...sooo yeah there's that.

I think this "Well back in the day, leaders had couth and class" is a nice sentiment, but it's not the truth. If history should teach us anything it's that there's no "The good old days" there's no "Things were more kind then" there's no "people were gentler and held themselves to a higher standard" if anything people were more brutal back then.


But that's MY take....was Trump wrong for bringing up Dingell? Probably, but no more wrong than Dingell's widow voting for impeachment.....and THAT picture will become more clear in the coming months.

Well that’s all I was saying. The world of politics has been scummy for a long time. If we are going to compare let’s do it honestly.

[Fatboxingfan]

Oh...... that makes it so much more acceptable.

Tito your kind of dodging right there because you just said two posts before that that showing up at somebody's funeral and roasting the deceased. but Trump did not show up at anybody funeral and roast anybody's deceased. You have to admit you're exaggerating a bit

[TitoFan]

Oh...... that makes it so much more acceptable.

Tito your kind of dodging right there because you just said two posts before that that showing up at somebody's funeral and roasting the deceased. but Trump did not show up at anybody funeral and roast anybody's deceased. You have to admit you're exaggerating a bit

I dodged nothing, Fats. Here's my post.


And as I've said, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

In MY opinion, the phrase "there's a time and a place for everything" exists for a reason.

I happen to think that having someone show up at someone else's funeral and begin an impromptu roast of the deceased is probably just a ta-a-a-ad (I know you like that word) in bad taste.

You may have a differing opinion, which is fine.

Humor is great. Knowing when to use it and when not to is even better.


I said "there's a time and a place for everything", then proceeded to provide an example where it is in extremely bad taste to do a roast of the deceased.

It's an example...... example.

If examples don't cut it, then suffice it to say that IMO it doesn't matter in what context the joke was made. It's about a deceased person, with full knowledge of his widow, and in public for all to see and hear.

If you don't think there's anything wrong with that, then good for you. Pass GO... collect $200.

I think it exhibits extremely poor taste.

That is all, thanks.