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[Alpha]

Do you even know what a scientific fact is ?

A scientific fact is that rain water freezes at 0°C at a pressure of 1 bar.

There’s no human choice involved. It’s observable and reproducible anywhere by anybody in the exact same way. Now a scientific fact, peer-reviewed, confirmed and approved, can have political consequences. Using the simple water example, it means that public administration, set into function by politics, orders winter road service to get ready once the temperatures fall below 0°C and the roads are wet.

In natural science, only one single significant deviation is enough to render the claim at least disputable, at worst invalid.
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Some goods points in there, but peer review can be highly fraudulent. Objective facts and objective truths prove themselves through practical demonstration and experiment.

I always find it funny when I see someone referencing natural science, testing and experimenting, scientific facts etc, and then refer to earth as a planet.

[Gandalf]

Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

[Beanz]

Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

No it is not. It was very clear and succinct and as usual because it exposed your lazy adoption of Alpha style pseudo science, you feel compelled to instantly dismiss it. You love to have your ears tickled by those who share your own opinions but that does not make them facts. You keep going back to the discredited bell curve and end up sounding like Trump with cancer windmills. Not doing yourself any favours.

The whole PC thing with you has often seemed to be about you thinking you can play the devil's advocate and face up to uncomfortable truths, others will refuse to, but the ironic thing is that you are in this case the one refusing to accept the real science and so have to resort to pseudo science ,to support your own flawed 'belief system'. It is no different to Alpha thinking that cases of scientific peer review fraud discredit the entire system. You both want to' believe' in order to assert an expertise that neither of you posses.

[Alpha]

Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

No it is not. It was very clear and succinct and as usual because it exposed your lazy adoption of Alpha style pseudo science, you feel compelled to instantly dismiss it. You love to have your ears tickled by those who share your own opinions but that does not make them facts. You keep going back to the discredited bell curve and end up sounding like Trump with cancer windmills. Not doing yourself any favours.

The whole PC thing with you has often seemed to be about you thinking you can play the devil's advocate and face up to uncomfortable truths, others will refuse to, but the ironic thing is that you are in this case the one refusing to accept the real science and so have to resort to pseudo science ,to support your own flawed 'belief system'. It is no different to Alpha thinking that cases of scientific peer review fraud discredit the entire system. You both want to' believe' in order to assert an expertise that neither of you posses.

I only deal in Natural Science and tangible demontrable facts Beanz.

You are the one who only has faith and beliefs, backed by pseudoscience .

It is a fact that the peer review system can be highly fraudulent. I never said it discredits the entire system, only that tangible, objective truths and facts prove themselves through practical demonstration and experiment.

I can form a hypothesis on water, on how pressure is created, on air pressure next to a vacuum, they are testable, demonstrable and repeatable. They will be proven correct each and every time, by anyone on earth.

I can guarantee that I have more science qualifications than you. The irony is, I am the authority that you keep trying to appeal to. More fallacious reasoning. Just provide your practical demonstrations/ experiments using the tangible substances in this reality.

We both know you can't. Spanked again.

I'm still waiting for your practical demonstrations and experiments but all you can do is waffle on.

[Beanz]

Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

No it is not. It was very clear and succinct and as usual because it exposed your lazy adoption of Alpha style pseudo science, you feel compelled to instantly dismiss it. You love to have your ears tickled by those who share your own opinions but that does not make them facts. You keep going back to the discredited bell curve and end up sounding like Trump with cancer windmills. Not doing yourself any favours.

The whole PC thing with you has often seemed to be about you thinking you can play the devil's advocate and face up to uncomfortable truths, others will refuse to, but the ironic thing is that you are in this case the one refusing to accept the real science and so have to resort to pseudo science ,to support your own flawed 'belief system'. It is no different to Alpha thinking that cases of scientific peer review fraud discredit the entire system. You both want to' believe' in order to assert an expertise that neither of you posses.

I only deal in Natural Science and tangible demontrable facts Beanz.

You are the one who only has faith and beliefs, backed by pseudoscience .

It is a fact that the peer review system can be highly fraudulent. I never said it discredits the entire system, only that tangible, objective truths and facts prove themselves through practical demonstration and experiment.

I can form a hypothesis on water, on how pressure is created, on air pressure next to a vacuum, they are testable, demonstrable and repeatable. They will be proven correct each and every time, by anyone on earth.

I can guarantee that I have more science qualifications than you. The irony is, I am the authority that you keep trying to appeal to. More fallacious reasoning. Just provide your practical demonstrations/ experiments using the tangible substances in this reality.

We both know you can't. Spanked again.

I'm still waiting for your practical demonstrations and experiments but all you can do is waffle on.

You live in a dream world. How are you the authority anyone would appeal to? What is your scientific expertise? Qualifications, real world career experience, feild work etc?

On what? The shape of the earth? Race? Anthropology, sociology, etc?

The floor is yours lad

[Alpha]

Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

No it is not. It was very clear and succinct and as usual because it exposed your lazy adoption of Alpha style pseudo science, you feel compelled to instantly dismiss it. You love to have your ears tickled by those who share your own opinions but that does not make them facts. You keep going back to the discredited bell curve and end up sounding like Trump with cancer windmills. Not doing yourself any favours.

The whole PC thing with you has often seemed to be about you thinking you can play the devil's advocate and face up to uncomfortable truths, others will refuse to, but the ironic thing is that you are in this case the one refusing to accept the real science and so have to resort to pseudo science ,to support your own flawed 'belief system'. It is no different to Alpha thinking that cases of scientific peer review fraud discredit the entire system. You both want to' believe' in order to assert an expertise that neither of you posses.

I only deal in Natural Science and tangible demontrable facts Beanz.

You are the one who only has faith and beliefs, backed by pseudoscience .

It is a fact that the peer review system can be highly fraudulent. I never said it discredits the entire system, only that tangible, objective truths and facts prove themselves through practical demonstration and experiment.

I can form a hypothesis on water, on how pressure is created, on air pressure next to a vacuum, they are testable, demonstrable and repeatable. They will be proven correct each and every time, by anyone on earth.

I can guarantee that I have more science qualifications than you. The irony is, I am the authority that you keep trying to appeal to. More fallacious reasoning. Just provide your practical demonstrations/ experiments using the tangible substances in this reality.

We both know you can't. Spanked again.

I'm still waiting for your practical demonstrations and experiments but all you can do is waffle on.

You live in a dream world. How are you the authority anyone would appeal to? What is your scientific expertise? Qualifications, real world career experience, feild work etc?

On what? The shape of the earth? Race? Anthropology, sociology, etc?

The floor is yours lad

I live in reality. Still no practical demonstrations/ experiments? Spanked again.

[Beanz]

Gandalf I compared you to Alpha because you both pretend idealogical political fiction like The Bell Curve and The Flat Earth are actual science. They are not, and bigoted nonsense like calling me defective or pretending people are being spanked is nothing but deflection from the fact that you both have no argument to make.

You also are now suggesting that I am simultaneously insisting everyone is the exactly the same and yet uniquely different. The is the whole 'snowflake' 'leftist' non argument. I treat people as individuals but you both insist that people be reduced and described with the kind of language that sheilds you from complexity. It is why such an homogenised conservative environment appeals to you.

[Gandalf]

Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

No it is not. It was very clear and succinct and as usual because it exposed your lazy adoption of Alpha style pseudo science, you feel compelled to instantly dismiss it. You love to have your ears tickled by those who share your own opinions but that does not make them facts. You keep going back to the discredited bell curve and end up sounding like Trump with cancer windmills. Not doing yourself any favours.

The whole PC thing with you has often seemed to be about you thinking you can play the devil's advocate and face up to uncomfortable truths, others will refuse to, but the ironic thing is that you are in this case the one refusing to accept the real science and so have to resort to pseudo science ,to support your own flawed 'belief system'. It is no different to Alpha thinking that cases of scientific peer review fraud discredit the entire system. You both want to' believe' in order to assert an expertise that neither of you posses.

Why bring up Alpha, why do you do that? You are seriously defective sometimes. It is something we can work on in our therapy sessions.

There is no devils advocacy in the basic fact that there are IQ differentials between races. I know it hurts your feelings as you think everyone is the same, but we are not. Everyone is different, but if we collate data on a group basis then we see patterns. For instance, a black person is significantly more likely than me to catch AIDS or get diabetes or in the case of men be 40% more likely to die of cancer. This is just true, and if race is this social construct, then it wouldn't happen, but it does because genetics and evolution is real. It is true that I am more likely to develop skin cancer. It is evolution. These are group differences, but of course a black person can get skin cancer and a white person can get diabetes. These are group patterns, but as I always preface we do indeed treat everyone as an individual.

I just do not understand why the IQ thing is such a issue if we consider that over tens of thousands of years we have actually evolved differently in different environments and thus have different characteristics. The East Asian will often have the charming oriental eye shape, I will be translucent, the black person more likely to have frizzy hair. That is genetic and in terms of my skin partly environmental as I tan under the moonlight, but you get it.

Of course I do get the anxiety from a leftist perspective as you hate that there are differences between groups, genders, sexuality, etc. However, I just accept the information for what it is, treat people as individuals and have no nefarious intentions. My only argument would be to stop feeding the racism lie when what we are really dealing with in society is a lack of self responsibility and natural differences which I think could be reduced by just being better people. That of course goes against your stealing money from others to pay for it all which is useful at times, but not a long term solution. It creates dependency and then you chaps feed the racist line and it creates even more friction. I find that far more nefarious and destructive.

This is where I keep on highlighting Candace Owens who I think is a great role model for young people, whilst I think someone like Stormzy is a terrible role model.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

OK. Gandalf. I'm out because it's starting to turn into a "last man talking contest"

Wannabe debaters like you, are like amateur gunslingers.

All you do is just point aimlessly, shoot then hope for the best.

But whenever you come trying to shoot that sh!t at me I always go for the heavy SMITH & WESSON XVR 460 MAGNUM. because in a full-on blast the guy (or girl) with the bigger gun is more likely to leave a smoking bullet-ridden avatar on the ground.

And besides, at that point I know the convo is over, so might as well have some fun