End of year awards 2019

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every fighter who reaches this level of fame will be granted advantages.

Advantages like getting paid more money. Like getting top billing in an event. Like attracting good trainers and good promoters. Not being able to bend and break the rules at will. Not being able to skip and hop their way through weight divisions targeting only those who pose no danger. Not fighting strictly where judges are corrupt and bought, and nowhere else. Not getting a laughable "punishment" when convicted of PED cheating.

Sorry... empty argument.

if kov was such a weak deer artur and bivol should have pounched on him sooner.

Artur and Bivol are busy, like every other top fighter, working at facing the best in their own division. Eventually they'll get to the point where they'll have faced everybody. They're not specifically waiting for fighters to get old or show some fatal flaw before jumping weight divisions to fight them.

catchweights have always been a part of boxing.

Tired of hearing this from blind Canelo fans. Yes, catchweights have always been a part of boxing, and usually they're used only when a fighter finds he cannot safely make a weight without compromising his ability to fight at 100%. With Canelo it's another tool to ensure he uses weight to his advantage. He, and JCC Jr., and now Munguia seem to come from the same Mexican school of boxing. Outweigh your opponent by 20-30 pounds by fight night, by all means legal or illegal..... and you'll ensure yourself a victory. That's cheating, in my book.

canelo has travelled.

This one must've slipped out, 'cause I know you can't be serious. The other poster just called you a troll and I'm trying my hardest not to. But when you post shit like this..... it becomes awfully hard. Canelo has traveled. I'll just let that one sit there for awhile while I think of an appropriate response.

Nah.... can't think of any. If you mean the one time he went to NY to fight Fielding, then wow..... my calling Canelo the Pied Piper of Boxing was right on the money.

Yes, Canelo travels. He travels from the locker room to the ring..... and sometimes back to Mexico to eat more 'roided cows.

canelo doesn't fill out the judges cards he just fights the fights.

Ask him who he thinks won the Floyd fight and he'll gladly tell you he was robbed. Ask him about ANY of his other controversial fights and he'll tell you he was robbed. No..... Canelo doesn't fill out the cards. That's all taken care of BEFORE the fights. Make sure the judges are in your pocket, and he just steps into the ring..... in full knowledge that the ONLY shot the other guy has is to knock him out. And we all know Canelo has a good beard.

miller also only got a slap on the wrist, as did many others

Miller is shit, and will amount to nothing in boxing. But we're not talking about Miller, are we.

Next argument.



Look..... we're getting nowhere fast. You put up weak lobs over the net....... I spike them through the floor.

I've already spelled out my points (facts) to you many times over.

Nice back-and-forth..... but I'm not going to keep beating that dead horse (or 'roided cow).

most fighters try to bend and break the rules where they think they can get away with it. i don' agree with it, but canelo is not the only one. there are a number of fighters who have recieved the benefits of catchweights or boil down for the weigh in but come in much heavier than their opponents. you keep saying opponents that pose no danger, but i don't hear you calling for jermall, andrade or ggg to jump two divisions to face what you consider a weak deer in kov, or any of them even having inclination or desire to jump up to lightheavy and face an eleider or even a joe smith. did jacobs, ggg, lara, floyd, trout pose no threat? canelo fights where the promoters put the fight, his opponents could decline the fight or their promoters could put up the money for the site, but canelo is in a position similar to what floyd had, where if you want to fight him, you either accept the disadvantages or move along. canelo was given a ban and served his time. rey vargas and julio martinez got nothing at all, among others

artur and bivol are busy? they get there eventually? but you expect canelo to face everyone there after only one fight in the division? double standards. if artur or bivol had signed to face kov in a unification, instead of canelo, everyone would have been excited and there would have been no talk of weak deer kov. and if kov was such a weak deer i'm sure the teams of arut and bivol would have jumped at the chance to unify with such an easy task. did sergiy d wait for ggg to get old as well? should no one fight ggg now since he is so old?

catchweights have been used by many fighters such as pacquiao, it is not just canelo who benefits from them. canelo had to concede to 152 to get the floyd fight, he even accepted 155 for cotto, canelo wanted 156. jacobs is another fighter who comes in well above his opponents weight. it might be cheating in your book, i don't agree with it myself, but if a fighter makes the weight at the weigh in then it is witout the current rules

canelo is not from america, every fight outside of mexico is travelling. just like loma and usyk. does canelo recieve benefits from fighting in vegas? sure, would any fighter turn down those advantages? doubt it, it is also a promoters job to get the best deal for his fighter, that includes location as well as purse and many other things

most fghters don't want to admit they lost, broner still thinks he beat pac. this is nothing new. if you have a problem with the judges cards call them out. if it was as easy as having a fighter who could survive to the final bell then all promoters need to do is get iron chinned fighters from this point on and pay off everyone. you make it seem so simple

ofcourse you are not talking about miller, it doesn't fit you bias. we are talking about failed drug tests tough aren't we? have the names rey vargas and julio martinez ever escaped your lips when talking about boxings failed drug tests and punishments?

i understand some of your frustrations and agree with some of them. but you are very onesided. all i'm asking for is consistancy. you rubbish canelo for the same things other fighters are doing, i understand though, when a fighter reaches this level of fame he becomes more of a target for criticism. no fighter is bigger than the sport. canelo will be gone soon enough. enjoy him while you can. not many fighters have a perfect career where the fans agree with every move they make. canelo is still making good fights. i would love to see jermall take on kov at lightheavy or ggg, even some of these supermiddles could step up