Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

[iwng100]

This is interesting:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...us-of-covid-19

"The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID".

I don't find this interesting at all, I find it stupid :

"Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase."

Yes, mortality rate is low in some countries, especially in Asia :
Korea - 3%, Singapore 1.2 %, Hong Kong 3.8 %, Japan 7.8 %
but what about the European and N. American countries ?
Italy 45%, Spain 43%, France 26%, Switzerland 53%, Canada 16% not to mention US or UK where MR is > 60% so far.

[Alpha]

This is interesting:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...us-of-covid-19

"The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID".

I don't find this interesting at all, I find it stupid :

"Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase."

Yes, mortality rate is low in some countries, especially in Asia :
Korea - 3%, Singapore 1.2 %, Hong Kong 3.8 %, Japan 7.8 %
but what about the European and N. American countries ?
Italy 45%, Spain 43%, France 26%, Switzerland 53%, Canada 16% not to mention US or UK where MR is > 60% so far.

'Status of COVID-19

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK'.

'The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID'.

Definition of HCID
In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:

acute infectious disease
typically has a high case-fatality rate
may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely.

List of high consequence infectious diseases
A list of HCIDs has been agreed by a joint Public Health England (PHE) and NHS England HCID Programme:

Contact HCID
Argentine haemorrhagic fever (Junin virus)
Bolivian haemorrhagic fever (Machupo virus)
Crimean Congo haemorrhagic fever (CCHF)
Ebola virus disease (EVD)
Lassa fever
Lujo virus disease
Marburg virus disease (MVD)
Severe fever with thrombocytopaenia syndrome (SFTS)

Airborne HCID
Andes virus infection (hantavirus)
Avian influenza A H7N9 and H5N1
Avian influenza A H5N6 and H7N7
Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS)
Monkeypox
Nipah virus infection
Pneumonic plague (Yersinia pestis)
Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)*

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled”.

[X]

You are complete loonies ..... UK mortality rate >60%? Where do you get this bullshit, or do you just make it up? Does someone make it up for you, or is it just plucked out of thin air.



"It's easier to be a fool, than to apply any iota of critical thought to a subject"

[X]

Anyway, statistically 100% of coronavirus patients will die.


Eventually.

[iwng100]

You are complete loonies ..... UK mortality rate >60%? Where do you get this bullshit, or do you just make it up? Does someone make it up for you, or is it just plucked out of thin air.



"It's easier to be a fool, than to apply any iota of critical thought to a subject"

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

[Memphis]

Those are closed cases dude To be fair death is the number one case closer, of that we can agree. The mortality rate in the UK using those number is around 5%.

[Memphis]

For what it's worth I don't see the value in what Alpha posted either. It being or not being a HCID is neither here nor there. No one has ever claimed that corona virus = death. Is it by those metrics a high consequence disease? They say no. Are the consequences of this high, fuck yeah. Two different things.

[Alpha]

For what it's worth I don't see the value in what Alpha posted either. No one has ever claimed that corona virus = death.

I'm not saying they claimed that. But by classifying it as a HCID under their own definition it states:

Typically has a high case-fatality rate.

Some more information:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...e-2018-to-2019



From the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

[iwng100]

Those are closed cases dude To be fair death is the number one case closer, of that we can agree. The mortality rate in the UK using those number is around 5%.

The only statistic we can make is on closed cases, we can only make estimations for the active cases. The right formula for MR would be the number of death from the close cases + the number of patients who will die from the active cases, all this divided by total persons infected. If you divide only the deaths from the closed cases to the total existed cases is like you predict that all patients from the active cases will recover.

[iwng100]

I know in UK like in Canada there is still a big fluctuation of MR, not like in Italy or Spain were it seams the MR is stabilized for one week around 40-45 % , look at the last graphics (deaths/recovers ) in those countries.

[Memphis]

That makes no sense to me whatsoever to be honest but I'm no mathematician. Why cant you take X number of people that have it, and Y number of people that have died and Y as a percentage of X is the mortality rate? Forget assumptions and guesswork. This many have it, this many died, thats your number, no?

That percentage is far more in line with WHO to be fair and no where near the 60% which is utterly bonkers.