If you say wuhan virus you are a racist and xenophobic

[Gandalf]

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

[walrus]

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

China was by far the best country I have visited so far and I look forward to going again

[Master]

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.

[Gandalf]

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.

Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.

[Master]

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.

Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.

It is all in own your mind. Everyone balks at your interpretation of IQ data.

So now China released this WMD on the world just so you can make your point is being a bit over the top even for you.

[Gandalf]

Only people blinded by evidence. It so researched that to deny it is in my view similar to suggesting the earth is flat. Lots of research all saying the same. It hurts feelings, but is a fact. The only question is why.

As for China. Wake up. Who gains the most from all this...for now?

[Master]

Only people blinded by evidence. It so researched that to deny it is in my view similar to suggesting the earth is flat. Lots of research all saying the same. It hurts feelings, but is a fact. The only question is why.

As for China. Wake up. Who gains the most from all this...for now?

You "Awoke" now? That was relatively quick for you. Hard to keep up.

[TitoFan]

I try to keep it real.

Did it originate in China? Sure... all evidence points in that direction.

Were the Chinese less than forthcoming about it in the beginning? Probably so. They're not exactly the world model for an open, communicative society.

Is it a WMD they've released? That's where the reaching begins. I'm not a fan of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

I'll also reiterate I don't see anything wrong with calling it the Wuhan virus...... just as I don't see any issues with people calling the 1918 bug the Spanish flu.

I'm more interested in people's intent.

[Beanz]

I try to keep it real.

Did it originate in China? Sure... all evidence points in that direction.

Were the Chinese less than forthcoming about it in the beginning? Probably so. They're not exactly the world model for an open, communicative society.

Is it a WMD they've released? That's where the reaching begins. I'm not a fan of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

I'll also reiterate I don't see anything wrong with calling it the Wuhan virus...... just as I don't see any issues with people calling the 1918 bug the Spanish flu.

I'm more interested in people's intent.

Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?

If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.

[Denilson-]

You have just went through a post addressed to TitoFan and then tried to make it about you.

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.

So everything i said holds true. You want to be a victim all the time and so you invent the same outrage you probably feel at being served breakfast in the wrong coloured bowl and then spew it out over anyone in the forum who seeks to take your blindfold off and ears stoppers out.

Were is MY offense? you just invented it exactly as i said you would in order to avoid addressing the argument.

If that's how you believe it to be in your dream world fucking have at it. I'm not a victim, nor have I acted as one in this thread. I've explained why the Spanish Flu was called such and explained why it's not racist or whatever to call it the Wuhan Coronavirus or Chinese Coronavirus....which you've responded to with your typical tut tutting.


Walrus started this thread with a question, you've done nothing but pout about it even being asked from the start. "this whole thread is a perfect example of an inverted clarion call for victim hood"....his asking a fucking question to the forum is an "inverted clarion call for victim hood" is it? Or did he just ask posters a simple straightforward fucking question? And yet again here we have the great Beanz who has never met a question he'd respond to with a straightforward answer.


Your offense is as per usual, assuming a great deal, never backing up the bullshit you spout and then attempting to dodge the results.

Ha!

Your insistence on breaking everything into bite size chunks like it is your first taste of solids and you are claiming that i am the one with a developmental disorder. I thought you sold insurance but now you you turn out to be quite the expert on anyone but yourself.


You asked

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.


Seems like you want to answer my questions for me . Which is exactly what i said you have always done and you continue to do in order to avoid answering any yourself.

You and Gandalf were mentioned because you were relevant to the argument. You both beg to be called fascist or racist so that you can claim some kind of daft victim hood.


Again you are just inventing stuff now. No wonder you are such of fan of serial liars like Trump. Walrus never asked any questions. He started the thread to stir up shit / stimulate debate/get a pack on the back /claim victimhood / pass the time of day.


So are you going to apologise? Ha!


Here is the first sentence of my reply.

"It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus"


If you think that is not a straightforward answer then you again must be willfully inventing a persona for me to justify your own squirming. Nobody is calling Walrus a racist. He is just another idealogue like you, brainwashed by Trump and his nutty worldview.

I do not think I have ever begged to be called a fascist or a racist. Only one person does in fact and I do not ask to be called that. I merely say 'This is what the data shows' or 'This is where the virus comes from'. These are facts and even people who do not like them accept the reality.

It is not me having a hard time with 'reality' in any of that and thus out comes the non asked for racist label. The political correctness approach. The same thing is happening in this thread and I am mute over the last few pages. It is weird.

So I mentioned prior I collect, repair and sell watches. Because of this I’m on a watchforum. It’s a good group of people very diverse from the 100 dollar seiko collectors to the guys that can drop 75k on a watch and not blink. Yesterday there was a news report that movado watch company is laying off most of their work force and cutting benefits for those left. I started a thread about it on the forum but in the heading I put something like movados reaction to the wuhan virus. Holy shit you wouldn’t believe the shit storm that created. I am racist against Chinese, I’m xenophobic. It got pretty intense. I did explain I had no malicious intent but we were calling this the wuhan virus when it first started then one day it just changed to covid. I explained I still often say wuhan because of that but nope, according to some people I’m racist against Chinese. It then spilled over to a fight betwixt those who knew what I was saying and those who say anyone who says wuhan is a racist or at the very least a dog whistle. Wtf. I asked the mod to lock the thread. He did but got back to me and took my side which I didn’t expect. Damn the world is getting tough it’s way to easy to set people off this wuhan virus is fucking up everything

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.

Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.

But you've said many times that Chinese people are intellectually superior to you and whites (on av)

[Gandalf]

You have just went through a post addressed to TitoFan and then tried to make it about you.

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.

So everything i said holds true. You want to be a victim all the time and so you invent the same outrage you probably feel at being served breakfast in the wrong coloured bowl and then spew it out over anyone in the forum who seeks to take your blindfold off and ears stoppers out.

Were is MY offense? you just invented it exactly as i said you would in order to avoid addressing the argument.

If that's how you believe it to be in your dream world fucking have at it. I'm not a victim, nor have I acted as one in this thread. I've explained why the Spanish Flu was called such and explained why it's not racist or whatever to call it the Wuhan Coronavirus or Chinese Coronavirus....which you've responded to with your typical tut tutting.


Walrus started this thread with a question, you've done nothing but pout about it even being asked from the start. "this whole thread is a perfect example of an inverted clarion call for victim hood"....his asking a fucking question to the forum is an "inverted clarion call for victim hood" is it? Or did he just ask posters a simple straightforward fucking question? And yet again here we have the great Beanz who has never met a question he'd respond to with a straightforward answer.


Your offense is as per usual, assuming a great deal, never backing up the bullshit you spout and then attempting to dodge the results.

Ha!

Your insistence on breaking everything into bite size chunks like it is your first taste of solids and you are claiming that i am the one with a developmental disorder. I thought you sold insurance but now you you turn out to be quite the expert on anyone but yourself.


You asked

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.


Seems like you want to answer my questions for me . Which is exactly what i said you have always done and you continue to do in order to avoid answering any yourself.

You and Gandalf were mentioned because you were relevant to the argument. You both beg to be called fascist or racist so that you can claim some kind of daft victim hood.


Again you are just inventing stuff now. No wonder you are such of fan of serial liars like Trump. Walrus never asked any questions. He started the thread to stir up shit / stimulate debate/get a pack on the back /claim victimhood / pass the time of day.


So are you going to apologise? Ha!


Here is the first sentence of my reply.

"It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus"


If you think that is not a straightforward answer then you again must be willfully inventing a persona for me to justify your own squirming. Nobody is calling Walrus a racist. He is just another idealogue like you, brainwashed by Trump and his nutty worldview.

I do not think I have ever begged to be called a fascist or a racist. Only one person does in fact and I do not ask to be called that. I merely say 'This is what the data shows' or 'This is where the virus comes from'. These are facts and even people who do not like them accept the reality.

It is not me having a hard time with 'reality' in any of that and thus out comes the non asked for racist label. The political correctness approach. The same thing is happening in this thread and I am mute over the last few pages. It is weird.

So I mentioned prior I collect, repair and sell watches. Because of this I’m on a watchforum. It’s a good group of people very diverse from the 100 dollar seiko collectors to the guys that can drop 75k on a watch and not blink. Yesterday there was a news report that movado watch company is laying off most of their work force and cutting benefits for those left. I started a thread about it on the forum but in the heading I put something like movados reaction to the wuhan virus. Holy shit you wouldn’t believe the shit storm that created. I am racist against Chinese, I’m xenophobic. It got pretty intense. I did explain I had no malicious intent but we were calling this the wuhan virus when it first started then one day it just changed to covid. I explained I still often say wuhan because of that but nope, according to some people I’m racist against Chinese. It then spilled over to a fight betwixt those who knew what I was saying and those who say anyone who says wuhan is a racist or at the very least a dog whistle. Wtf. I asked the mod to lock the thread. He did but got back to me and took my side which I didn’t expect. Damn the world is getting tough it’s way to easy to set people off this wuhan virus is fucking up everything

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.

Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.

But you've said many times that Chinese people are intellectually superior to you and whites (on av)

On average yes, but do you have a point?

[Denilson-]

You have just went through a post addressed to TitoFan and then tried to make it about you.

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.

So everything i said holds true. You want to be a victim all the time and so you invent the same outrage you probably feel at being served breakfast in the wrong coloured bowl and then spew it out over anyone in the forum who seeks to take your blindfold off and ears stoppers out.

Were is MY offense? you just invented it exactly as i said you would in order to avoid addressing the argument.

If that's how you believe it to be in your dream world fucking have at it. I'm not a victim, nor have I acted as one in this thread. I've explained why the Spanish Flu was called such and explained why it's not racist or whatever to call it the Wuhan Coronavirus or Chinese Coronavirus....which you've responded to with your typical tut tutting.


Walrus started this thread with a question, you've done nothing but pout about it even being asked from the start. "this whole thread is a perfect example of an inverted clarion call for victim hood"....his asking a fucking question to the forum is an "inverted clarion call for victim hood" is it? Or did he just ask posters a simple straightforward fucking question? And yet again here we have the great Beanz who has never met a question he'd respond to with a straightforward answer.


Your offense is as per usual, assuming a great deal, never backing up the bullshit you spout and then attempting to dodge the results.

Ha!

Your insistence on breaking everything into bite size chunks like it is your first taste of solids and you are claiming that i am the one with a developmental disorder. I thought you sold insurance but now you you turn out to be quite the expert on anyone but yourself.


You asked

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.


Seems like you want to answer my questions for me . Which is exactly what i said you have always done and you continue to do in order to avoid answering any yourself.

You and Gandalf were mentioned because you were relevant to the argument. You both beg to be called fascist or racist so that you can claim some kind of daft victim hood.


Again you are just inventing stuff now. No wonder you are such of fan of serial liars like Trump. Walrus never asked any questions. He started the thread to stir up shit / stimulate debate/get a pack on the back /claim victimhood / pass the time of day.


So are you going to apologise? Ha!


Here is the first sentence of my reply.

"It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus"


If you think that is not a straightforward answer then you again must be willfully inventing a persona for me to justify your own squirming. Nobody is calling Walrus a racist. He is just another idealogue like you, brainwashed by Trump and his nutty worldview.

I do not think I have ever begged to be called a fascist or a racist. Only one person does in fact and I do not ask to be called that. I merely say 'This is what the data shows' or 'This is where the virus comes from'. These are facts and even people who do not like them accept the reality.

It is not me having a hard time with 'reality' in any of that and thus out comes the non asked for racist label. The political correctness approach. The same thing is happening in this thread and I am mute over the last few pages. It is weird.

So I mentioned prior I collect, repair and sell watches. Because of this I’m on a watchforum. It’s a good group of people very diverse from the 100 dollar seiko collectors to the guys that can drop 75k on a watch and not blink. Yesterday there was a news report that movado watch company is laying off most of their work force and cutting benefits for those left. I started a thread about it on the forum but in the heading I put something like movados reaction to the wuhan virus. Holy shit you wouldn’t believe the shit storm that created. I am racist against Chinese, I’m xenophobic. It got pretty intense. I did explain I had no malicious intent but we were calling this the wuhan virus when it first started then one day it just changed to covid. I explained I still often say wuhan because of that but nope, according to some people I’m racist against Chinese. It then spilled over to a fight betwixt those who knew what I was saying and those who say anyone who says wuhan is a racist or at the very least a dog whistle. Wtf. I asked the mod to lock the thread. He did but got back to me and took my side which I didn’t expect. Damn the world is getting tough it’s way to easy to set people off this wuhan virus is fucking up everything

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.

Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.

But you've said many times that Chinese people are intellectually superior to you and whites (on av)

On average yes, but do you have a point?

No point.

Just wanted to hear you admit that your intellectually inferior to Asian guys.

I just think it's funny lol

[Gandalf]

You have just went through a post addressed to TitoFan and then tried to make it about you.

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.

So everything i said holds true. You want to be a victim all the time and so you invent the same outrage you probably feel at being served breakfast in the wrong coloured bowl and then spew it out over anyone in the forum who seeks to take your blindfold off and ears stoppers out.

Were is MY offense? you just invented it exactly as i said you would in order to avoid addressing the argument.

If that's how you believe it to be in your dream world fucking have at it. I'm not a victim, nor have I acted as one in this thread. I've explained why the Spanish Flu was called such and explained why it's not racist or whatever to call it the Wuhan Coronavirus or Chinese Coronavirus....which you've responded to with your typical tut tutting.


Walrus started this thread with a question, you've done nothing but pout about it even being asked from the start. "this whole thread is a perfect example of an inverted clarion call for victim hood"....his asking a fucking question to the forum is an "inverted clarion call for victim hood" is it? Or did he just ask posters a simple straightforward fucking question? And yet again here we have the great Beanz who has never met a question he'd respond to with a straightforward answer.


Your offense is as per usual, assuming a great deal, never backing up the bullshit you spout and then attempting to dodge the results.

Ha!

Your insistence on breaking everything into bite size chunks like it is your first taste of solids and you are claiming that i am the one with a developmental disorder. I thought you sold insurance but now you you turn out to be quite the expert on anyone but yourself.


You asked

Then why was I mentioned? Why was Gandalf mentioned? Does it even matter? You have the same bullshit to say to all of us.


Seems like you want to answer my questions for me . Which is exactly what i said you have always done and you continue to do in order to avoid answering any yourself.

You and Gandalf were mentioned because you were relevant to the argument. You both beg to be called fascist or racist so that you can claim some kind of daft victim hood.


Again you are just inventing stuff now. No wonder you are such of fan of serial liars like Trump. Walrus never asked any questions. He started the thread to stir up shit / stimulate debate/get a pack on the back /claim victimhood / pass the time of day.


So are you going to apologise? Ha!


Here is the first sentence of my reply.

"It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus"


If you think that is not a straightforward answer then you again must be willfully inventing a persona for me to justify your own squirming. Nobody is calling Walrus a racist. He is just another idealogue like you, brainwashed by Trump and his nutty worldview.

I do not think I have ever begged to be called a fascist or a racist. Only one person does in fact and I do not ask to be called that. I merely say 'This is what the data shows' or 'This is where the virus comes from'. These are facts and even people who do not like them accept the reality.

It is not me having a hard time with 'reality' in any of that and thus out comes the non asked for racist label. The political correctness approach. The same thing is happening in this thread and I am mute over the last few pages. It is weird.

So I mentioned prior I collect, repair and sell watches. Because of this I’m on a watchforum. It’s a good group of people very diverse from the 100 dollar seiko collectors to the guys that can drop 75k on a watch and not blink. Yesterday there was a news report that movado watch company is laying off most of their work force and cutting benefits for those left. I started a thread about it on the forum but in the heading I put something like movados reaction to the wuhan virus. Holy shit you wouldn’t believe the shit storm that created. I am racist against Chinese, I’m xenophobic. It got pretty intense. I did explain I had no malicious intent but we were calling this the wuhan virus when it first started then one day it just changed to covid. I explained I still often say wuhan because of that but nope, according to some people I’m racist against Chinese. It then spilled over to a fight betwixt those who knew what I was saying and those who say anyone who says wuhan is a racist or at the very least a dog whistle. Wtf. I asked the mod to lock the thread. He did but got back to me and took my side which I didn’t expect. Damn the world is getting tough it’s way to easy to set people off this wuhan virus is fucking up everything

Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.

No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.

Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.

But you've said many times that Chinese people are intellectually superior to you and whites (on av)

On average yes, but do you have a point?

No point.

Just wanted to hear you admit that your intellectually inferior to Asian guys.

I just think it's funny lol

The average white does have on average a lower IQ, but do not forget the overlap that you call me cowardly for mentioning. A smart white guy is still smarter than many Asians and the same with blacks over other groups too. There is overlap. That's why I struggle with you as you do not see that I think there are brilliant black people out there, but I don't think Broner is a good example.

Do I personally feel inferior? No, but as a group we do not have the same outcomes. For instance, Japanese longevity is better, their general health better, their infrastructure more advanced. You want gadgets then they are coming from Asia. You want a response to a Pandemic, then you want to be in an Asian country. It will hit hard but the response is much better. People are more self responsible and the coordination in place quickly.