Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?

[Gandalf]

Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it. The last time i have been more ill was about 6 or 7 years ago and then i ended up in the back of an Ambulance. Myself and the Mrs came back from Holiday to find one week later that the Hotel directly opposite to the one we stayed in was locked down full of people with Corona virus symptoms. They could not leave the Hotel or fly home.

All of us have had the flu several times before, and i can assure it was not the flu, whatever it was. At no point was any of our breathing bad enough to call for an ambulance but that does not mean we just had a bit of a cold either. I don't want to tempt fate or fuck about when perfectly healthy people a lot younger and fitter than me are dying alone in hospital, so I can literally say hand on heart, I do not know.

Also i want to be clear that this misguided idea about living in areas that are not so densely populated. You can not extrapolate from that some kind of theory that pretends it is safer. There are far fewer ICU beds (barely double figures for the whole of Cornwall) and critical care units, and with quite an elderly retired population the pressure on regional hospitals in rural areas is massive. That is why second home owners have been told to stay in their first homes.

Also thanks El Kabong for thinking that none of us dying proves your stupid little theory, ignoring the fact that perfectly healthy people are dying from it whilst the majority, even with pre-existing health conditions make a good recovery.

They think.

Also if you and Gandalf think that it is so likely that i and my family and loved ones would probably die if we had it, why were you both so keen to call me a scardy cat and a coward and a baby etc?


The crazy thing is that i have been anything but hysterical. Not here, not in my everyday life. I have to carry on. You don't get a day off when you are a carer , You don't get classed as vulnerable by the Government even if you literally cannot get out without support to shop etc. So my Mrs does not qualify for free deliveries or any help even if i am bed bound, and yet if she had to go to hospital they would score her high enough to put someone else in an ICU bed ahead of her if numbers were tight, which they are. So yeah ...fucking lecture me about responsibility and social distancing Gladys why not?

I mean if I am ill again who is going to help the Mrs wash her one hand? something as simple as that. We have an automatic dispenser but it is virtually impossible to work up enough lather with one hand to wash off any viral traces. For the disabled this is doubly scary. Yet she isn't scared she is far braver than you will ever be. She has been in an ICU unit for months, been in a coma, had to learn how to walk, talk, eat etc so she really goes at life with no fear. I would not dare be a coward when living with someone like that.

You plum.

You have likely known about the virus since February at the latest, then got sick at the end of February/March and then only a few weeks ago were complaining about losing business because 70% of it is outdoors. I do hope you were being safe and not potentially spreading a disease that for some is dangerous by being a super spreader. Indeed, let us hope it really was only the flu.

If you knew you that hotel was a Corona one and you all had symptoms, I do not understand why you would not pursue a test or go to a hospital as you would be a risk unless you were isolating yourself completely and tracing anyone you had come across. Were you still working? Likewise, if your wife has pre-existing conditions, why would you potentially endanger her too? You saw with Johnson how it can easily develop for those who are older and not in the best of shape. Please do not take that as an attack, but more a series of questions and musings because it sounds strange.

Pull your head out of your arse and listen for once.

There is no testing in the UK unless you are so breathless you need to phone an ambulance and be admitted to a hospital.

None.

212 dead in your country and 12,000+ in mine and you are still pretending they are the same. Stupidly acting confused as to why you know nobody with it, when the minority here will be those like you. Most will know of someone. Many have reported that and you just pretended it was bullshit or ignored them.

Also there is no way I could isolate from my Mrs so your idea that I am potentially endangering her is again fucking outrageous.

And your post absolutely was a judgemental attack in which again you made a million assumptions, the main one being, that you think I am irresponsibile and reckless.

Nuts.

That is coming from you, you absolute fuck who has for weeks been castigating me for staying in and self isolating.

I know people from England, the US, Canada and none have had family members with it.

If she had the Corona virus she should have been in a hospital. For her own safety and also to alert authorities and potentially track anyone around you. How many people did you pass from your hotel to your home? Unless it was the flu which is more likely the case as it is common and most get it every year or two.

I asked nicely to make a Hitler video, but you have not replied so to make us even I made my own. It is very funny and shall premier it this evening.

I hope you laugh at and enjoy it. It is a sign of homage to make a satirical parody video of someone. No hometowns or family is mentioned. The funniest lines cover various characters.

[Master]

A cold is different to the flu. A cold you can work through but a flu is more severe and really knocks you back. Takes days to recover for a normal person.

As I am super human I have never had the flu but know someone in my family that has had the flu.

[Memphis]

TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.

I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.

No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.

So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?

[TIC]

TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.

I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.

No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.

So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?

you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing

[Memphis]

TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.

I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.

No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.

So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?

you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing

Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?

[Memphis]

Lyle too many quotes to requote so in summary. Yes, if beanz says he has had or does have it I’ve no problem with that. Nor would I if you or anyone else said it. End analysis. I don’t require any further information or have any obligations either way. He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care.

The absence of testing, hospitalisation or anything else doesn’t make them special. It makes them typical of the vast majority of cases right?

If you say you’ve got plague, you’ve got plague. I hope you feel better soon.

[El Kabong]

He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care..

Ok

[Gandalf]

Lyle too many quotes to requote so in summary. Yes, if beanz says he has had or does have it I’ve no problem with that. Nor would I if you or anyone else said it. End analysis. I don’t require any further information or have any obligations either way. He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care.

The absence of testing, hospitalisation or anything else doesn’t make them special. It makes them typical of the vast majority of cases right?

If you say you’ve got plague, you’ve got plague. I hope you feel better soon.

The only problem with Beanz story is his history of telling lies. He flips from being very ill to being healthy and also from having no mental issues to having Asperger's. That is where he is tricky and people raise their eyebrows.

He has been posting for weeks, supposedly from home in self isolation attacking Boris for not following protocol, never sick like this before and posting as normal fighting day in day out. Not a word of it. Zilch. He was more busy trying to fight with me as you will know as you sent me a pm on March 23rd. Surely you would think 'I am fucked, I need a break from this'. Maybe true, maybe not. But I always have my doubts with the Beaner especially if there are kids with histories of pneumonia and a wife with epilepsy and him with heart disease and so on. No hospital check for something unlike and worse than the flu? It is not as though several weeks ago the beds were full. You would at least think 'I know this is bad and I know of that hotel and other countries, I will get expert advice'.

Maybe all true, but one has the right to be sceptical. I can show you scars to prove the things I have been through. Maybe Beanz could do a lung CT, I mean there could be damage, for some it spontaneously returns and he can spread it or make others sick. It is your civic duty too.

[TIC]

TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.

I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.

No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.

So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?

you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing

Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?

your belief is not proof. what is the process the authorities use? i thought you hadn't taken a test, i could be mistaken but please inform me of their process if you have actually had one

[TIC]

i would like to ask beanz & spicoli, if they had never heard of covid 19 would they both just assume they had a severe case of influenza, pneumonia, a really bad cold or something similar? both never visited the doctors i think & i think spicoli continued to work around others. what date did you recover beanz?

[Memphis]

TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.

I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.

No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.

So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?

you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing

Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?

your belief is not proof. what is the process the authorities use? i thought you hadn't taken a test, i could be mistaken but please inform me of their process if you have actually had one

I’m not aware of ever claiming that my belief was ‘proof’. Where and when did that happen?

Would the same rules apply to anything else? I’ve never broken my leg. I’m aware that other people have but I don’t have ‘proof’.

You’re quit right. I’ve never taken a test.

[Beanz]

Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it. The last time i have been more ill was about 6 or 7 years ago and then i ended up in the back of an Ambulance. Myself and the Mrs came back from Holiday to find one week later that the Hotel directly opposite to the one we stayed in was locked down full of people with Corona virus symptoms. They could not leave the Hotel or fly home.

All of us have had the flu several times before, and i can assure it was not the flu, whatever it was. At no point was any of our breathing bad enough to call for an ambulance but that does not mean we just had a bit of a cold either. I don't want to tempt fate or fuck about when perfectly healthy people a lot younger and fitter than me are dying alone in hospital, so I can literally say hand on heart, I do not know.

Also i want to be clear that this misguided idea about living in areas that are not so densely populated. You can not extrapolate from that some kind of theory that pretends it is safer. There are far fewer ICU beds (barely double figures for the whole of Cornwall) and critical care units, and with quite an elderly retired population the pressure on regional hospitals in rural areas is massive. That is why second home owners have been told to stay in their first homes.

Also thanks El Kabong for thinking that none of us dying proves your stupid little theory, ignoring the fact that perfectly healthy people are dying from it whilst the majority, even with pre-existing health conditions make a good recovery.

They think.

Also if you and Gandalf think that it is so likely that i and my family and loved ones would probably die if we had it, why were you both so keen to call me a scardy cat and a coward and a baby etc?


The crazy thing is that i have been anything but hysterical. Not here, not in my everyday life. I have to carry on. You don't get a day off when you are a carer , You don't get classed as vulnerable by the Government even if you literally cannot get out without support to shop etc. So my Mrs does not qualify for free deliveries or any help even if i am bed bound, and yet if she had to go to hospital they would score her high enough to put someone else in an ICU bed ahead of her if numbers were tight, which they are. So yeah ...fucking lecture me about responsibility and social distancing Gladys why not?

I mean if I am ill again who is going to help the Mrs wash her one hand? something as simple as that. We have an automatic dispenser but it is virtually impossible to work up enough lather with one hand to wash off any viral traces. For the disabled this is doubly scary. Yet she isn't scared she is far braver than you will ever be. She has been in an ICU unit for months, been in a coma, had to learn how to walk, talk, eat etc so she really goes at life with no fear. I would not dare be a coward when living with someone like that.

You plum.

You have likely known about the virus since February at the latest, then got sick at the end of February/March and then only a few weeks ago were complaining about losing business because 70% of it is outdoors. I do hope you were being safe and not potentially spreading a disease that for some is dangerous by being a super spreader. Indeed, let us hope it really was only the flu.

If you knew you that hotel was a Corona one and you all had symptoms, I do not understand why you would not pursue a test or go to a hospital as you would be a risk unless you were isolating yourself completely and tracing anyone you had come across. Were you still working? Likewise, if your wife has pre-existing conditions, why would you potentially endanger her too? You saw with Johnson how it can easily develop for those who are older and not in the best of shape. Please do not take that as an attack, but more a series of questions and musings because it sounds strange.

Pull your head out of your arse and listen for once.

There is no testing in the UK unless you are so breathless you need to phone an ambulance and be admitted to a hospital.

None.

212 dead in your country and 12,000+ in mine and you are still pretending they are the same. Stupidly acting confused as to why you know nobody with it, when the minority here will be those like you. Most will know of someone. Many have reported that and you just pretended it was bullshit or ignored them.

Also there is no way I could isolate from my Mrs so your idea that I am potentially endangering her is again fucking outrageous.

And your post absolutely was a judgemental attack in which again you made a million assumptions, the main one being, that you think I am irresponsibile and reckless.

Nuts.

That is coming from you, you absolute fuck who has for weeks been castigating me for staying in and self isolating.

I know people from England, the US, Canada and none have had family members with it.

If she had the Corona virus she should have been in a hospital. For her own safety and also to alert authorities and potentially track anyone around you. How many people did you pass from your hotel to your home? Unless it was the flu which is more likely the case as it is common and most get it every year or two.

I asked nicely to make a Hitler video, but you have not replied so to make us even I made my own. It is very funny and shall premier it this evening.

I hope you laugh at and enjoy it. It is a sign of homage to make a satirical parody video of someone. No hometowns or family is mentioned. The funniest lines cover various characters.

So basically what you are doing is calling everybody a liar. You not knowing anyone with the symptoms proves nothing.

And don't presume to know the slightest thing about my Mrs. You arrogant little shit. It astounds me the new depths you are willing to plumb everyday in order to again make it again about you being the hero who has planned everything and through his own responsibility is some untouchable God, and everyone else is a feckless, selfish loser who deserves anything that happens to them.

Again you are not listening. We had no symptoms on leaving the hotel or traveling back home in February and the Hotel opposite was not quarantined until a week after we left. Then they announced that on the news. Are we supposed to have then used a time machine and went back to retrace our steps and announced to someone that after we arrive home we may be about to get ill so we better self isolate in a building full of hundreds of people instead of at home with just two of us?

They are not tracking anyone. They are not testing anyone unless you are rushed to hospital on deaths door. Do you think she fancies going to hospital only to be told sorry the ICU bed that would have saved your life has been reserved for someone who could not take part in the Paralympics, because Gladys urged everyone to vote for a Government that has like him, been backing Eugenics based policies for years?


There are no interim procedures set up to test people who may have symptoms. Doctors surgeries and consultations happen over the phone and they just tell you to stay home and self isolate. And once again we both know what the flu is like and that does not feel like this or drag on for weeks.


You are full on mental.

You don't need to ask my permission to copy my parody video from years ago, and you could never ever hope to possibly make us even. I am not the nasty fucker that you are. Never have been and never will be. Look at the way you talk to others in this thread like some pompous sociopath, dismissing posters as though they are all as mentally fragile as you, Jordy and Stefan the unhinged fucking loser.

[Gandalf]

You didn't think to go to hospital for something that could kill someone with existing conditions and could easily deteriorate? You sound so cautious most of the time yet here sound reckless. 142 have been confirmed there so your wife could have been too. She would surely be a priority with a long medical history. It sounds like the flu, but if you think it was Covid and everyone with existing conditions in your family did not need a doctor or hospital then who am I to interfere with this new health revelation? It really is your life, but despite your hostility I wish you no harm. BTW where was the hotel and this virus hotspot?

[Beanz]

You didn't think to go to hospital for something that could kill someone with existing conditions and could easily deteriorate? You sound so cautious most of the time yet here sound reckless. 142 have been confirmed there so your wife could have been too. She would surely be a priority with a long medical history. It sounds like the flu, but if you think it was Covid and everyone with existing conditions in your family did not need a doctor or hospital then who am I to interfere with this new health revelation? It really is your life, but despite your hostility I wish you no harm. BTW where was the hotel and this virus hotspot?

You are fortunate i am even speaking to you. You are a human rat. Nothing more. But i am not like you so i will give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe there is a shred of humanity deep inside you fighting to survive

We were in Tenerife Costa Adeje https://www.express.co.uk/travel/art...islands-latest

I even posted here while on the holiday.


Again you refuse to listen. It has always been that this place is your soapbox. Your ranting ground. You seem to think the worst of most of the other posters. It is nuts.

Neither of us are hypochondriacs like you. Neither are we cautious and timid and meek like you. We take risks. I take risks just like most people I know, my job is not a secure one. That is the reality of working in the arts being self employed and running your own businesses also. That does not mean i am reckless. I am used to working from home but until very recently i found that impossible with being so ill, and she was far less affected. It does not seem to hit women as hard.

The amazing thing is how without me even relaying any of the symptoms we have, and continue to have, you still insist it sounds like flu. Anyone would thing you have already made you mind up

And again no..she is not a priority at all. I have been telling you this for years and you did not give a shit about all those people like her swept under the carpet by the twats you urged everyone to support. She scores so highly she would not get a bed in ICU.

Fuck me. It is like pulling teeth.