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    Default Re: Is it Frotch or Frock?

    In fairness I don't think his being British was actually the reason most thought he wouldnt prove to be world class. He had a style that just looked like it wouldnt work out, it didn't look pretty no matter who he fought and it was easy to think better fighters would handle him.

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    I'd go along with that. I was thinking right back when he fought Charles Adamu for the Commonwealth title that would be his limit. Stick him in with anything better and he's coming a cropper.

    Froch had a serious case of delusions of grandeur when it came to boxing and the style he was going to adopt. Fancied himself as a bit Roy Jones, when in actual fact he was a hard bastard with a granite chin, decent dig and a serious set of bollocks. Those things took him far further than I expected him to go.
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    Froch also had a good right cross and a lethal right uppercut. He was very fit and strong so could punch it out with the most strongest fighters in the division. His fight with Pascal was pure action.

    The super middleweight division was far better pound for pound than the current heavyweight division. Andre Ward was the best at the weight. Anyone second to him was not bad.
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    I was ringside for Froch v Magee which I covered for this very site, Froch banged him out cold for about 2 mins and kept his Commonwealth title.
    Seeing Froch up that close that night you could tell he was going all the way and all at ringside agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    In fairness I don't think his being British was actually the reason most thought he wouldnt prove to be world class. He had a style that just looked like it wouldnt work out, it didn't look pretty no matter who he fought and it was easy to think better fighters would handle him.
    Don’t go interrupting quality little brother bellyaching with thought.

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    Froch was by no means great. He had a good punch and a lot of grit. I always say that he overachieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Froch was by no means great. He had a good punch and a lot of grit. I always say that he overachieved.
    I think he was worthy of being the 2nd best super middleweight in his era. Kessler and Froch went at it for that position. Bute was destroyed. No one else was close. Froch earned what he achieved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Froch was by no means great. He had a good punch and a lot of grit. I always say that he overachieved.
    I think he was worthy of being the 2nd best super middleweight in his era. Kessler and Froch went at it for that position. Bute was destroyed. No one else was close. Froch earned what he achieved.
    Maybe. Kessler beat him the first time around and then barely pulled off the rematch much after Kessler was at his best. He obviously wasn’t better than Ward (no shame there).

    So overall, he was probably always about 2nd best which is good. He won some and he lost some. So overall, that’s I believe he was good but not great. Not a HOF fighter to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Froch was by no means great. He had a good punch and a lot of grit. I always say that he overachieved.
    I think he was worthy of being the 2nd best super middleweight in his era. Kessler and Froch went at it for that position. Bute was destroyed. No one else was close. Froch earned what he achieved.
    Maybe. Kessler beat him the first time around and then barely pulled off the rematch much after Kessler was at his best. He obviously wasn’t better than Ward (no shame there).

    So overall, he was probably always about 2nd best which is good. He won some and he lost some. So overall, that’s I believe he was good but not great. Not a HOF fighter to me.
    Froch did have to contend with the volcano ash and issues caused by it for his 1st fight with Kessler but anyway he is right to say that he did enough to be rated higher than AJ at this point in their career.
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    Default Re: Is it Frotch or Frock?

    Froch didn't overachieve to me, he was much better than I thought, I picked everyone to beat him from the leisure centre days (no live TV). We thought he was doing the worst Roy impression ever but in fact his hero was Naz. I kid you not. He was trying to do Naz. And as Memphis said, he eventually found his style (imagine he didn't have that iron head?).

    My favourite Froch fight was the Aussie sheep farmer snapping his neck back all night for the Commonwealth title. And taking the piss out of the small number of Froch groupies who claimed Calzaghe was ducking him.

    However, credit where it's due, his groupies were right, his run from Pascal to Groves is stronger than most HOF-ers.
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