Cooking the Books on Covid-19?

[TitoFan]

Why the contentiousness about this virus, TIC? (and to some extent..... Gandalf)

At the end of the day, isn't my right to wear a mask and keep social distancing if I so choose just as important as your choice not to wear one?

And yet.... if we were in close proximity and I felt uncomfortable with not keeping social distancing.... would you not respect those wishes?

Recent anecdote.....

I was at the Post Office recently, and everyone was cooperating with the wearing of the facemasks and keeping to the lines marked on the floor. Everyone but this one dude who insisted on getting up on people in line. I guess he was kind of in a hurry, and couldn't be bothered with rules. He said he "only needed to buy a stamp" and was quite impatient. He wasn't wearing a mask, either. At one point he coughed. Probably meaningless..... but again..... I choose to follow social distancing guidelines, as is my right to do so. Nobody's keeping me at home..... nobody is keeping me from doing my business. At one point the guy comes up to me to ask a question. Already a bit annoyed at the one fool in every line who doesn't know how to behave, I kindly asked him to keep his distance. Fortunately, the guy realized he was being kind of an ass, and backed off and back into his spot on the line. At one point a guy already at the counter saw what was going on, and mercifully bought a stamp to give to the impatient bloke. He thanked the guy.... and off he went. There was a general sigh of relief from the people in line.

It doesn't matter whether you want to believe in anything or not.

It boils down to your rights versus mine. As long as our rights do not infringe on one another, everything should be cool. As soon as you want to impose your rights on mine...... that's a different story.

you are free to wear whatever you want, it's when it becomes mandatory that theres a problem. i will live free. if i am standing close to you am i harming you? you would need to prove your belief. if you don't want people near you stay at home. your fears don't over rule other peoples freedoms. order followers are the cause of slavery

I think if a business owner asks that you wear a mask in his establishment, it is you that can make a choice to either wear one or stay out.

If there's a line at a shop and you're asked to keep social distance and you don't, it is again your choice... just as it's the shop owner's right to ask you to leave.

When you were just complaining about having to stay home, it was more understandable.

If it was just a matter of rights, it would be one thing. But IMO, your attitude borders on rebelliousness and wanting to buck the system. My rights are still just as important as yours.

a business is private property & if that is their rules to wear a mask i will shop elsewhere, if they require six feet distancing i have no problem with that. what if i'm surfing or at a park with no one else around? should that still apply? no everywhere is the same as where you live. you didn't answer if i would be harming you, because you know you can't prove it & it is just your belief, you just feel because your belief is backed by thugs that is over rules my rights

If your respecting my rights is predicated upon my "having to prove" anything to you......... we would have a serious problem.

lets do a thought experiment, it is this time last year & i am standing about a foot or two from you, not disturbing you & not close enough to be within your personal space anything wrong with that? course not. but now because you have a belief & fear of something that the thugs in control are pushing & the mindless are buying you have an issue. nothing there is going against your rights, just against your fears & beliefs. i guess you agree with the salem witch trials where fear & beliefs lead to them being found guilty & many executed. what if i'm the business owner & i want to refuse anyone from entering with a mask on, because i want to be able to identify someone if something gets stolen, or if i want to stay open to anyone who wants to use their freewill & take responsibility for their own health & use my services? a year ago you would have no issue, now because of your fear & belief you do. i think it's fair to ask for proof & as we see the lies being brought to light more & more each day i don't think it's unreasonable. the removal of peoples freedoms is unreasonable. taking away peoples freedoms always leads to more death

If I feel like wearing a mask and a business owner doesn't want me in his business, that's his prerogative. Like you, I'll go shop elsewhere. We're all free to do what we feel, as long as it doesn't interfere with, or violate, anyone else's rights.

For all you know I might have a compromised immune system. If that were the case, and you stood too close to me without a mask, I would kindly let you know. If it's a public place, I'll move away. If I'm standing in a line clearly marked with social distancing and you persist on being closer than that, you're violating my right to keep social distancing in a line clearly marked for the keeping of social distancing.

If that is somehow unacceptable to you, then I guess we'd have a problem, because I have a right to stand in line comfortably without the fear of being contaminated with the virus I know you don't believe in.

I don't know how much clearer this all needs to be.