Cooking the Books on Covid-19?

[TitoFan]

Well we've both made our feeling clear, haven't we. I think the argument has run its course. You won't convince me.... I won't convince you.

you could convince me with proof of your belief

that's assuming I wanted to convince you

you don't have to convince me but it is clear that as in history, unsubstantiated beliefs are damaging lives. let's move on, let's imagine covid 19 is real, do you think masks work?

Why do you care what I think? We've already established you don't think COVID-19 is real. Everything beyond that is a moot point.

[TIC]

Well we've both made our feeling clear, haven't we. I think the argument has run its course. You won't convince me.... I won't convince you.

you could convince me with proof of your belief

that's assuming I wanted to convince you

you don't have to convince me but it is clear that as in history, unsubstantiated beliefs are damaging lives. let's move on, let's imagine covid 19 is real, do you think masks work?

Why do you care what I think? We've already established you don't think COVID-19 is real. Everything beyond that is a moot point.

i can't know it's real until it's proven to me yeh? but i was trying to find some common ground & see if you agree with some of the inconsistencies & some of the random stuff like dancing nurses, locking up surfers or those at parks & beaches & those trying to support their families. or if you felt it strange that big businesses were able to remain open like supermarkets but smaller businesses were not, when some smaller places could enforce social distancing better. or if you think reopening will lead to a second phase. i think a second phase is already planned. just because i don't believe the virus is real doesn't mean the actions being taken are not serious. but yeh, let's drop it

[TitoFan]

Well we've both made our feeling clear, haven't we. I think the argument has run its course. You won't convince me.... I won't convince you.

you could convince me with proof of your belief

that's assuming I wanted to convince you

you don't have to convince me but it is clear that as in history, unsubstantiated beliefs are damaging lives. let's move on, let's imagine covid 19 is real, do you think masks work?

Why do you care what I think? We've already established you don't think COVID-19 is real. Everything beyond that is a moot point.

i can't know it's real until it's proven to me yeh? but i was trying to find some common ground & see if you agree with some of the inconsistencies & some of the random stuff like dancing nurses, locking up surfers or those at parks & beaches & those trying to support their families. or if you felt it strange that big businesses were able to remain open like supermarkets but smaller businesses were not, when some smaller places could enforce social distancing better. or if you think reopening will lead to a second phase. i think a second phase is already planned. just because i don't believe the virus is real doesn't mean the actions being taken are not serious. but yeh, let's drop it

TIC, please don't think I'm unsympathetic with the examples you posted above. Unlike you, I do believe there's a virus pandemic. But I don't agree with the arresting of surfers, those in wide open spaces posing a danger to no one, etc. I also feel the restrictions are being unfairly meted out. Business is business and, if you can enforce social distancing measures in supermarkets, you should be able to do so as well in small businesses while allowing them to open. Common sense, logic, empathy, are all very big with me. But as usual, laws are put together haphazardly without the attention to detail that requires rolling up your sleeves and actually giving everything careful planning and thought. We may not agree on the virus being real, but that doesn't mean this automatic polarization of ideas that usually occurs in here, has to take place now. Many of us "virus-believers" are quite reasonable.