Cooking the Books on Covid-19?

[TIC]

In the spirit of fairness, I think it's reasonable to want to talk numbers instead of all this conjecture.

To those who insist: a) COVID-19 is a hoax, b) COVID-19 is greatly exaggerated and is no worse than the common flu, c) there is some Machiavellian conspiracy to hurt the American public, or d) some variation of the previous choices........

How's about you presenting some numbers instead of all this unsubstantiated rhetoric?

The numbers are on our side, as there are FAR MORE people who believe COVID-19 does in fact exist.... and that COVID-19 is in fact a pandemic.

But again, I'd rather deal with numbers. REPUTABLE numbers..... not some bogus charts and graphs from "Conspiracies R' Us."



Ok so one of the claims is that COVID deaths are being greatly exaggerated by calling any ol' death a COVID death. The purpose being of course financial, and also political and what have you.

Makes sense to me in many cases, as it's far easier to lump in a bunch of deaths and call them all "COVID deaths", than to go through the trouble of actually finding out real cause of death. Again..... many of us "COVID believers" are quite reasonable.

But having a bunch of dolts exaggerating COVID deaths due to laziness or monetary purposes doesn't in and of itself prove that there is no COVID-19.

So give us numbers.




If other causes are being lumped in as COVID, it would stand to reason that the numbers for those OTHER causes would be equally DE-flated..... would it not?

In other words... if influenza, heart diseases, cancer-related deaths and others are in fact being lumped in as COVID deaths, it stands to reason that those other causes would have dropped perceptively, right?

So give me the month-by-month deaths due to those other factors, that would appropriately DEMONSTRATE that COVID deaths are being inflated by those amounts.

Anyone with a basic understanding of tendencies, averages, and statistics would be able to decipher this issue one way or the other.

i've already dropped it. not wasting my time on something you can't prove to me

[X]

Just as a matter of interest, what about God?

[Gandalf]

Just as a matter of interest, what about God?

I don't think he had the Corona virus either.

[TIC]

Just as a matter of interest, what about God?

I don't think he had the Corona virus either.

both are imaginary

[Gandalf]

I don't agree. I think Corona is real, but I just don't think it is terribly dangerous for healthy people. If you are obese or have existing conditions which is the majority of people then it poses a significantly higher risk. It is a problem if a youngster who isn't that sick then gives it to his gran who dies. For me that is the complication. Ordinary people mostly just battle on through a bout of ill health, but to know you had it then you better have a test result.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I don't agree. I think Corona is real, but I just don't think it is terribly dangerous for healthy people. If you are obese or have existing conditions which is the majority of people then it poses a significantly higher risk. It is a problem if a youngster who isn't that sick then gives it to his gran who dies. For me that is the complication. Ordinary people mostly just battle on through a bout of ill health, but to know you had it then you better have a test result.

no, it isnt truew what you say, young people are dying from this and getting a second syndrome now as seen in New York City, Houston, Omaha and San Diego are reporting permanent lung and liver damage in teenagers and 20 yearr olds, also Kawasaki is being seen now in several hundred so-called recovered patients, in young children, very young children. I do not know where your getting you're statistics but you are wrong.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

you are acting like an poorly informed person, serious denial and fake optimism, people like you are part of the problem,

https://whyy.org/articles/think-your...ight-disagree/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-p...pitalizations/

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/who-...ronavirus.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...oung-patients/

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...f=art_readmore

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertg.../#6eca818634df

https://www.livescience.com/genes-fo...-severity.html

[TIC]

I don't agree. I think Corona is real, but I just don't think it is terribly dangerous for healthy people. If you are obese or have existing conditions which is the majority of people then it poses a significantly higher risk. It is a problem if a youngster who isn't that sick then gives it to his gran who dies. For me that is the complication. Ordinary people mostly just battle on through a bout of ill health, but to know you had it then you better have a test result.

no, it isnt truew what you say, young people are dying from this and getting a second syndrome now as seen in New York City, Houston, Omaha and San Diego are reporting permanent lung and liver damage in teenagers and 20 yearr olds, also Kawasaki is being seen now in several hundred so-called recovered patients, in young children, very young children. I do not know where your getting you're statistics but you are wrong.

unusual that it took months for this to start. wouldn't it have been happening from the beginning? not months later when the lie is being blown to bits. you are acting like a fearporn promoting coward. prove covid 19 is real

[Gandalf]

I don't agree. I think Corona is real, but I just don't think it is terribly dangerous for healthy people. If you are obese or have existing conditions which is the majority of people then it poses a significantly higher risk. It is a problem if a youngster who isn't that sick then gives it to his gran who dies. For me that is the complication. Ordinary people mostly just battle on through a bout of ill health, but to know you had it then you better have a test result.

no, it isnt truew what you say, young people are dying from this and getting a second syndrome now as seen in New York City, Houston, Omaha and San Diego are reporting permanent lung and liver damage in teenagers and 20 yearr olds, also Kawasaki is being seen now in several hundred so-called recovered patients, in young children, very young children. I do not know where your getting you're statistics but you are wrong.

How many young people are dying? It is a very small percentage. It is mostly old and sick people. You yourself rant about fat Americans. Obesity alone is a sickness, then all the conditions people have from poor lifestyles. Some healthy people die sure, but here the average death age is 77 and 97% with existing conditions.

Sure there can be damage, but that is not death. The young mainly do okay, it is just when they infect Gran she dies as her body was corroding over a 40 year period since her 30's.

[TIC]

I don't agree. I think Corona is real, but I just don't think it is terribly dangerous for healthy people. If you are obese or have existing conditions which is the majority of people then it poses a significantly higher risk. It is a problem if a youngster who isn't that sick then gives it to his gran who dies. For me that is the complication. Ordinary people mostly just battle on through a bout of ill health, but to know you had it then you better have a test result.

you believe it's real