George Floyd murdered by cops

**TitoFan** · 06-03-2020 04:24 AM

You probably lost Gandalf on that one, NotSaving. He only likes skewed numbers that falsely support his point.

**Gandalf** · 06-03-2020 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

You probably lost Gandalf on that one, NotSaving. He only likes skewed numbers that falsely support his point.

No, because Brock is skewing the numbers there by basing it on population which is a misnomer. Less white people are involved in violent crime than black people by a very significant degree. Thus you cannot use population as a metric. You have to use those involved in the violent crime as a metric instead and by doing that then you see there is no mass agenda against blacks. How do you explain police brutality against whites if it is all racism? It isn't, it is typically just heavy handed police behavior against whoever is in their sight. You are on this racist crusade, but you have not provided any evidence that this was because of racism and furthermore the guy died from a heart attack while high. He was treated badly, but there is likely more to it than just 'racism' and that is why we have a trial.

The response has been hysterical and I don't mean 'funny'. The way it is being orchestrated makes me very curious considering the last 4 years and how every trick has been tried and now it has ended up with the torching of cities. It is a very strange response and I am not sure what they are hoping to get beyond a free TV. I mean Trump has been more than fair with his comments about the tragic situation.

**walrus** · 06-03-2020 04:58 AM

Perhaps I shouldn’t brought up any numbers. I was just pointing out innocent whites have and do get killed at the hands of police. That was not meant to justify anything just making a point. I think racial profiling goes on, I think there are racist cops. I think their is a lot inequality in the US and the world at large, certainly race is part of that but in all honesty I think the bigger inequality is class. Race is good to use to distract from that. One of the founders of BLM has spoken of such things and how BLM was politically manipulated to go after the right. Do you think a rich black guy deals with the bullshit those living high crime areas deal with? Do you think the white guy living in a trailer park getting his SSDI checks is covered in privilege. Yes there are problems. I know police abuse exists I’ve experienced it and statistically a minority is more likely to experience it.

I still say these riots are not a proper way to deal with this. They are making the issue worse. There are plenty of good cops, when I was 8 I got hit by a car and cop performed cpr on me until the medics arrived. I tend to get negative on cops but I need to look at the whole picture.

**Gandalf** · 06-03-2020 05:12 AM

Meanwhile, people continue to die including this man who did not need to die at the hands of domestic terrorists on a looting spree.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...rdered-looters

**walrus** · 06-03-2020 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Gandalf

Meanwhile, people continue to die including this man who did not need to die at the hands of domestic terrorists on a looting spree.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...rdered-looters

And this is why it’s very difficult to watch the news right now. Still people in the media find ways to justify or even praise the riots. I understand why people get conspiracy ideas from these things. Sad shit to see, as an American it saddens me. The fact that some take joy in this astounds me. When it does end who do you think will suffer more so than most. It’s not the news reporters praising it or the politicians supporting it I know that. If you are struggling in the US now this will only compound it. It will add more to the role certainly. Do you think the decent cops are going to be rushing to calls in tough neighborhoods? Some groups involved in this actually have a defund the police platform. So who do they want providing law and order? Social workers. In actuality it will be those roving gangs. I hope many of you in the US don’t need to call 911 for a sick family member, you may be waiting a while. One dudes death is terrible, responding to that with more death and destruction IMHO is counterproductive.

**walrus** · 06-03-2020 12:35 PM

Speaking of cops I wanted to relate briefly something I experienced. I saw a terrible accident on a major highway in my state. One of the drivers involved was pinned in his car as it was on fire. Several cars including myself were behind the accident so we pulled over not only due to the pile up but to see if we could help. Fortunately a state trooper was in that group of cars. He had a couple small fire extinguishers at the time I had one small one in my car I gave him. He kept trying to put out the fire in the car of the guy who was trapped but the extinguishers were not big enough the flames would die down and kick back up. The pinned guy was actually begging for the cop to shoot him. He was pinned as I said and the flames were burning him. The cop got 18 wheelers with extinguishers to pull over and give him extinguishers. I saw tears coming from the troopers eyes but he was in high gear doing everything he could. It seemed like a long time before the fire department arrived, they had the jaws of life and proper extinguishers to save the guy. A few of us who witnessed the accident gave statements and went on our way.

Shit like that you don’t forget. Yeah there are asshole cops but many deal with situations like that frequently and thank god they do.