3 Solutions-If You Were The Leader Of Your Country

[El Kabong]

1. Institute travel ban from China quickly. Quarantine the sick. Initiate better practices to secure those who are most vulnerable to the disease. If extra beds/rooms needed for patients, don't house in Rest Homes/Retirement communities re-purpose College dorms as nobody is using those currently. Educate public on hand washing, incubation period, etc. Defund the WHO for lying and taking China's side.

2. For Migrations: Secure the Southern border. Allow DACA "Dreamers" to stay IF and only IF they complete a naturalization process. If there is a migrant caravan, find those who fund it and criminally charge them. Our immigration system should be open to all, but we should also have standards for who we allow in the country. Violent criminals need not apply.

For Race relations: Have officers partner with civilians to figure out the best practices for policing their neighborhoods. Bring back "Beat" police (like walking the beat not like violently beating) to form a closer relationship with communities, "your friendly neighborhood officer" and not "this cop that I don't know or trust". Get illegal guns off the streets, allow for illegal guns to be turned in anonymously(though those firearms would be checked for use in violent crimes). End Prohibition on drugs. Root out how gangs make their money and remove them from any and all neighborhoods. People don't want to live in fear, kids don't need the temptation of quick money dangled in front of them when they don't understand the consequences of their actions, and organized crime should not prey upon any neighborhood.

3. Reign in spending is going to be difficult, but austerity must be practiced given the size of our debt. Encourage companies to store their money in American banks. Remove loopholes for taxes and lower tax rates. Get government out of the charity business and allow communities the opportunity and incentive to help provide for their own which would also help with #2 I believe and overall morale in communities. People form bonds over working together to achieve common goals. Encouraging kindness and support for your fellow citizen gives you a sense of pride whereas paying taxes for entitlement programs creates resentment. Also with communities being encouraged to invest in their own communities then they will be better able to focus on the specific needs of their community when big government bureaucracy allows people to fall through the cracks.


I believe Canned Heat said it best....

[Gandalf]

1. Institute travel ban from China quickly. Quarantine the sick. Initiate better practices to secure those who are most vulnerable to the disease. If extra beds/rooms needed for patients, don't house in Rest Homes/Retirement communities re-purpose College dorms as nobody is using those currently. Educate public on hand washing, incubation period, etc. Defund the WHO for lying and taking China's side.

2. For Migrations: Secure the Southern border. Allow DACA "Dreamers" to stay IF and only IF they complete a naturalization process. If there is a migrant caravan, find those who fund it and criminally charge them. Our immigration system should be open to all, but we should also have standards for who we allow in the country. Violent criminals need not apply.

For Race relations: Have officers partner with civilians to figure out the best practices for policing their neighborhoods. Bring back "Beat" police (like walking the beat not like violently beating) to form a closer relationship with communities, "your friendly neighborhood officer" and not "this cop that I don't know or trust". Get illegal guns off the streets, allow for illegal guns to be turned in anonymously(though those firearms would be checked for use in violent crimes). End Prohibition on drugs. Root out how gangs make their money and remove them from any and all neighborhoods. People don't want to live in fear, kids don't need the temptation of quick money dangled in front of them when they don't understand the consequences of their actions, and organized crime should not prey upon any neighborhood.

3. Reign in spending is going to be difficult, but austerity must be practiced given the size of our debt. Encourage companies to store their money in American banks. Remove loopholes for taxes and lower tax rates. Get government out of the charity business and allow communities the opportunity and incentive to help provide for their own which would also help with #2 I believe and overall morale in communities. People form bonds over working together to achieve common goals. Encouraging kindness and support for your fellow citizen gives you a sense of pride whereas paying taxes for entitlement programs creates resentment. Also with communities being encouraged to invest in their own communities then they will be better able to focus on the specific needs of their community when big government bureaucracy allows people to fall through the cracks.


I believe Canned Heat said it best....

I like those ideas. I would go much further than China and automatic quarantine for any returning Brit. No foreigners allowed in for a 6 month period. Review every 3 months beyond. Tourism is not as important as the general economy.

In terms of immigration, it is unnecessary and costs money and increases social tension. NO immigration for a decade. Deportation of all violent criminals on a dual passport or with a passport from country of origin. Only short term renewable visas for anyone coming in to work. No easy gateway to citizenship. Get the number down to something negligible. All illegals straight out. You burned all ID? Fine, sending you to France where you came from. Macron doesn't like it? Time for words as the dwarf let them onto the channel. Military to do something useful. Outposts at every invasion avenue. It is what other countries do. They protect borders.

In terms of debt a return to the welfare state of the 1950's. It teaches self reliability. Cuts to procedures that are cosmetic on NHS. If you want to change gender that is fine. However, insure yourself or save up. Reduce health care costs by promoting activity and health. Increase interest rates and encourage fiscal self responsibility. Regulate the banks. Close off shore tax havens, do away with loopholes for multinational corporations. You control them, they do not control you.

The debt that exists is significant. Historically you would inflate it away which is cruel. You could just not pay, but that means nobody is lending to you again. You need austerity, but you need to innovate and make your economy strong with technologies that others have not yet invented. No more bailouts. Let bad actors fail. Increase domestic food production as the UK is not able to sustain itself. People should pay more for food and less on indulgences. Appreciate food and pay farmers well, let them hire local people, and appreciate food grown locally.

The minimum wage is plenty and with less immigration less excuses to avoid work and of course with welfare being altered men and women need to be more responsible with their sexual behavior. Wanna be a stud? Get the snip. Wanna be a slag? Take the pill. Wanna love and raise kids in a marriage, then there will be support for you. That is encouraged. The single Mums and runaway Dads will be investigated.

[SlimTrae]

1.How I would have handled the virus:

A. I would institute travel ban like other here (January)- Designate two points of entry only- one on the West Coast (California) the other east coast. So Americans who wanted to come home- have a single port-where medical team to assist. Same for exports/imports- I'd rather have a turtle movement of products, then stagnant.

B. Tell whoever told me to shutdown the economy to go and (F) themselves.

C. Once made known the severity- I wouldn't have sent out stimulus check randomly- especially to people who didn't lose their jobs. WTF purpose did it serve to send money to the employed?
I'd use a 3 tier system
Major corporations would be given option for tax breaks- to supply your employees with tests/masks. Lose money investing in tests early on or lose money being shutdown-indefinitely.
Mid size corporations-much like a deductible. They pay partial- the government assist with the rest.
Mom N Pop Shops are covered completely for providing tests/masks


I would intervene -IF the medical profession told me- a new virus would only be identified by several symptoms- in other words I know of a few people who died because they didn't show the symptoms this government claimed- as means to identify. If it is new, you can't minimize symptoms -as a reason to say-send them back home. That IMO was the equivalent of saying we know all there is to know about coronavirus.

Intervention meaning-holding medical profession accountable- they say only 3 symptoms--and it turns out to be more 8..can determine- those cats lose their licenses - Id go Trump on them- Ya Fired! Serious!
My time in the media would not be spent ridiculing the media, nor the partisan parties using words like hoax- that primed his followers to be skeptical of everything- even truth.

Once January's 1st case- I would have a board -not one person like Dr. Fauci, but a team consisting of doctors and virologists- who in turn could identify others in the world community of medicine- not just WHO or CDC I am a bit skeptical of them.
That way the discussion is always based on virus. Not hoax, not shutting down the economy. That IMO minimizes the media's ability to run with it- creating a panic off a pandemic.

[SlimTrae]

2. Race relations

I'd commission a group per Senate/Congress to create the Lincoln Act.
I would address the nation using the 1st Republican Primary Debate(s) between Abraham Lincoln & Stephen Douglass as the platform- Make Americans aware how each debate- the Republican nominated- had to win by
A. Proclaiming The Constitution was written by whites for whites.

Then revisit his discussion with Frederick Douglass- he told him- there is a greater divide between our two races than any other---so go....go where you can be respected- but Frederick was schooled in white institutions-so he thought Africa was all savage- he had no clue of the resources that existed.

Ask the American to understand- Lincoln wasn't a racist nor a lover of a race other than his own- he was a lover of his country- Once the country can accept Lincoln freed the slaves on his admission- that is what it took to (preserve the union)
We can conclude- there will always be a group of whites who don't want integration. So the Lincoln Act is a hybrid plan for reparations' & those seeking to change the culture.-give them an out. eliminate those liberals who want to take advantage of it- by creating committees/subcommittees, diversity training, wtf is that?

The union today is too racially polarized- and there is no way to identify each racist, bigot. No way to identify the child born into a hateful- bigoted, biased racist household fom that of a person who wasn't a racist- but left behind as the white kid in a black school just dogged. Honkey, cracker, take his lunch money, now. It doesn't justify, but it is understandable some people feel they are driven to one side or the other-as a POTUS I would take that into consideration.

But there is a way to minimize the drawback of integration- Separation. Remember how Republicans back during Reagan/Bush wanted Kurds in Iraq to have their own? Same deal here.

The United States would do a Brexit- Partitioned no greater than 3 distinct territories - all under the military protection of a central federal government- not a central bank- but I digress! Just as the Articles Of Confederation appeared to be a document that identified each state- as a sovereign country, So, too would the Abraham Lincoln Act -restore that concept.

Th Lincoln Act would further identify/remind the people of constitutional limits: It was James Madison that penned WHAT A CENTRAL GOVERNMENT CAN do: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined ... (to) be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce."

In other words, if we truly adhered to the Constitution- the state is supposed to stop racism, but because the states elected senators and House Reps that ran on shit like @Denilson pointed out- Democrats that ran as republicans declaring elect me and I will repeal the civil rights. I will repeal the voting rights act---well since they got elected in the 1960s as Republicans....guess who their grandkids are today? Republicans my age 45-60.
Federal government sent troops to the south -because that was how they governed- along racial inequality- it is now so inbred in them..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...og/ar-BB15zP7z

When a white man can proudly walk with a KKK hat on in Wisconsin in the year 2020---and the person who took the picture expressed fear of being revealed for retaliation- then racism is inbred.

When a biracial man can be beatan to a pulp at a drunken cops party in Wisconsin- and the only cop to speak out on how he was beaten into ICU-- quits the police force out of fear for her life- racism is indoctrinated.
Quote: Following a state trial that ended with the jury acquitting the three police officers charged, a federal investigation led to plea agreements with three police officers

Same stuff different decade- why did the federal government have to intervene in Selma Alabama in the 1960s? Same reason why the federal government had to intervened in the 1990s- for the beating of Frank Jude.
A dozen cops...and they had no clue how he got his faced busted, bruised, eyes gouged, ears jammed with objects, scrotum is fucked up? A president can't solve that. Hate nor racism can not be legislated away.
When you can log onto a website like this that has a thread about racism- and all those accused are just black, WTF?
When racism is no longer identified by actions and just words? racism is no longer taken seriously.

So if that nation/state cedes- but wants protection for war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce."---then they are covered.
Want to ask for affirmative action? Not covered in the Constitution, so one would have to either go to that partitioned state or another continent-

[SlimTrae]

Solving Racism Pt.2

Affirmative Action is in itself a racist act- because it (RESERVES) jobs, position for exactly that- race.
Race/Police:
Policing Units are out dated- they weren't created to be a unit that can break up a domestic fight at 9pm , find the dope in the car at 1am, get the kitty out the tree at 5am, dodge bullets from gang warfare & shift's end.

Defund cops? Oh, hell no. They need to be rebuilt to cater to the neighborhoods they protect and serve- As A President I would again commission a team that would serve to Segway military personnel who turn civilian for roles in policing. Funding for relocation as well- to ensure if it is best for blacks to police blacks...well we got to have a pool to choose from. We don't, so we complain on those whites who police our hood.
My deterrent:
each street light is a potential camera- for detecting crimes in route or exiting- Local factories would provide those cameras/creating work.- it doesn't stop crime- it records the vicinity -to identify suspects and witnesses.

It's storage would be based on a Tandem Reel Time Mainframe- which allows recording of any crimes to forward to the precinct on duty. (reel time- meaning it does not store it)
Because it is reel time processing not batch- once the allotted time passes- say 3 days? That history is erased -preventing Big Brother from using our civilian camera policing crews against the people.


Every nice downtown -has these cameras, why not neighborhoods that are in shatters? Those living in the hood usually don't qualify to be cops--so people outside the community/culture are held to a tougher standard & it is unfair IMO. Don't want a neo Nazi cop beating U down?
We have to revise the policing department- not defund it.
And all this again is based on the Lincoln Act-
"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers...”
James Madison



We would be a 3/state/nation. As America isn't Democrat and Republican. There is a demographic growing larger by the day- and they cant stand either party.
That can minimize racism, but nothing will ever eliminate it other than the creator of man.

[SlimTrae]

I am under the impression #3 is the most difficult.
https://www.quora.com/What-happens-w...t-pay-its-debt

Seems easy to say- we aint paying- but the consequences IMO are based on conspiracy theories- difficult to prove- meaning there are shadow/clandestine organizations that almost work for the central bank the way hairy knuckle dragging Gweedo the Italian shows up at Joe Blow's house cause he didn't pay the mob.

Wars can be forced on a country- bonds can be rejected- then a domino effect- but hey- IMO this means those who rebound know not to ever attach themselves to a bank- they have no control in raising lower interest, prevention of recession, we forfeited all that- because somehow we think it is smart to say I don't want some politicians deciding that.
Yet elect them and only know the name of the Fed Chairman, nothing more...

Anyone got any solid info- on what happens when sovereign default occurs?

I am not in favor of a central bank the people can't identify. I am not in favor of a government that wants to attach itself to a gambling system. want a stock market, fine, but don't attach government to it.
So be it 1929 or 2008 if the stock market crash- that shit is supposed to impact stock buyers, not people who don't give a rats azz about it.

But because we have given ourselves up- then turn around & say thinks like I don't want a globalist this or that...damn U got it already! USA fucks up...other nations got to bare that brunt- no way in hell can one find Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine to Andrew Jackson who thought anything other than...shenanigans' by cronyism.

Not sure if GOLD standard is best to get back on- but whatever resources we have in abundance- would be used to match the printing of currency-so we have something compensate @kirkland still around? Interested to hear his take or anyone working in the financial sector- I am just using fantasy to make my dream government, -on #3 that is!

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.

[SlimTrae]

Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.

July 4th his remaining student is giving -I think his last talk- He is pleading for America to save herself from a pending wrath. Or let those of us secede to another territory so this government doesn't have to deal with useless solutions like affirmative action, civil rights...what is that? Human rights is all we need!

Unfortunately those are the names so many whites can agree on -that is racist; all black leaders who stand up. No matter the generation. Garvey, Muhammad.

When a great leader like Abraham Lincoln has to walk out to bring in Frederik Douglass, because the military were willing to disobey- no n-words allowed...I mean when Rough Rider Roosevelt- just invited Booker T Washington to dine and find means to let blacks do for themselves...he got met with death threats?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booker...he_White_House
Different decade, same problem only now, there are so many down trodden whites from cronyism, evil foreign policies and plenty of puppets willing to play prez- racism takes a back seat. I think Dubya, Obama, none willing to do what they know is necessary to save this nation: one may have to place their lives on the line.


The Honorable Elijah Muhammad students to this day are probably more conservative than most whites care to know- they are against abortion, do not accept entitlement programs. Can be put out the nation for adultery, bearing children without marriage. Obey all laws accept the right to bare arms but are prohibited from use- in that they fear it could be used against them.

Today he states anyone who doesn't adhere to the nature showing us the time via adverse weather, the nations uprising, no race or creed can escape. That isn't racist. This is the calling of America.
Is Babylon really a mystery now? or is she known. And if America...or when she falls...what nation other -could be worthy of hearing people saying "Mystery Babylon the Great Has Fallen?:
My pop told me he attended their annual event in like 1972, LOL he said the little dude spoke for 30 seconds...and left. He walked up and said Black man...get up...and do something for self. Stop blaming. Do something for self.

[Denilson3.0]

3 Solutions for the USA ?

I need 8 solutions.

1. THE AGENDA MUST ADDRESS BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE ONLY

No diversions into non-black issues. Not LGTB. Not minority. Not black and brown.

Black people have no friends. I can't stand the term "People Of Color"

We not only have to deal white supremacists. But Asians who are anti black. White Latinos who are anti black. Native Americans who are anti black.

2. BLACK SOCIETY'S TOP PRIORITY IS ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT

Black progress is measured in dollars. If black people as a group have got more dollars then we're moving in the right direction. No hand picked black ppl like Oprah. Either we all coming up or we are all going down. The black economic structure needs to be controlled by black ppl. If we are not holders of capital. If we are not able to finance things at an unlimited global and universal level then the system is failing.

White supremacists may hate us because we are black but they're able to victimise us because we are poor and as long as we remain poor we remain easy victims.

The wealth of the USA and the western world was built on exploiting black labour and later systematic racism to trap black people into being a never ending labor, consumer and prison class of people. The Homestead Act gave whites free land which they passed down generationally all the while bombing any attempt at black economic empowerment (Black wall street and Tulsa)

After WW2 Japan was bombed. The USA rebuilt Japan to 20th century specifications and now uses it as one of their puppet states. Japan was given a Marshall plan with clear goals to rebuild it to become an industrial player. The same needs to be done for black business development because white and non black people control the economy of every single black neigbourhood in America.

But there is not single white neighbourhood in the world were black ppl control white ppl's economy.

Black economic empowerment is the foundation.

3. THE TOTAL DISMANTLING OF WHITE SUPREMACY

Black people are up against a system that permeates every factor, every facet of black ppl lives.

Look at how the Japanese were treated after they went to war with the USA. The country was flattened. Not to mention the nuclear fallout which lasted for yrs. But look at them now ? Everyone slobbers and drools over so called Japanese intelligence. They were helped and assisted.

Look at the Jews. They had the Nuremberg trials. They hunted down anyone who was a nazi. Even today if they find a 101 year old Nazi, they'll make stand (actually most of em can't even stand) before a trial but looks at the Jews today ? Jews are one of the most powerful racial groups on the planet.

They dismantled white supremacy in Germany in regards to the Jews. That needs to happen to black ppl today. White supremacy must recognised as the ultimate evil meaning that it's criminalised and outlawed. The same way they did in Nazi Germany

Questions ?

"Well erm. Denilson. They didn't totally eradicate racism in Germany"

Give me what the Jews have and we'll make it work.

4. WHITE SUPREMACIST AND POLICE VIOLENCE IS A HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION

When other countries shoot their citizens. The USA is quick to call that a human rights violation but when white supremacist do the same to unarmed black ppl then that's proper police procedure and self defence.

The police are the enforcement arm of white supremacy and law enforcement has been infested by white supremacists and nothing has been done to root them out.

That's why all the madness and rioting on the streets is happening.

There are white supremacist beat cops, sergeants, captains, police chiefs and prosecutors who are using sheriff departments as havens and nests were white supremacist can be hired to kill black ppl and the white supremacist district attorney will back them up on it.

White supremacists are terrorists and they should be punished.

5. SCHOOLS CAN NO LONGER BE WEAPONIZED AGAINST BLACK CHILDREN

Black kids are the targets of racist school teachers and administrators. Their chief form of abuse is to claim that the black child has a learning disability and the only way you can deal with them is to put the child on drugs or in special education. They also play on poverty of many black people by saying "We'll increase your county check, if you just give jamal this drug"

Knowing full well that drugs and special ed increases the black child's chances of failing in school, becoming a drop out and ending up in prison.

In the USA they put prisons where the drop out rates are the highest. And now that you have prisons for profit. They need to make sure they have fresh stock.

This is all done so that white kids don't have to compete in the global market place with blacks.

6. REMOVAL OF THE SYMBOLS SYSTEMATIC RACISM ON PUBLIC GROUNDS

Germany has done quite well since WW2 without having statutes of the Nazi's but in the USA white supremacists nazis are on the steps of the courthouses and town squares across the USA. A black person should not have to look at a statue of Robert E Lee or Stonewall Jackson when he enters a court house. because that's a sure sign that he'll get no justice in there.

Germany has train stations, jet airplanes and freeways. All inventions of the Nazis but Germany doesn't have public statues of Wernher von Braun. Sure they kept the Nazi innovations but they put the Nazi inventors in a Museum.

7) MANDATORY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE CONTRACTS RESERVED FOR BLACK BUSINESSES (20%)

The reconstitution of the American economic order.

These entities (Companies) have to do 20% business with black businesses.

Companies in the USA receive public assistance in the form of tax breaks and EVEN tax credits as well free infrastructure upgrades to make it easier for them to do business. Whenever they build a Walmart or a Whole-foods or whatever, they redo the whole dam inter-section. For a Walmart they put up new traffic lights, new sewage lines, they use millions of blk tax money for white companies.

But they'll never do that for a black business. Because when black people show up it "O no !! Thats welfare ! We cant give you nothing" meanwhile they're given white businesses millions.

So corporations that want to do business in a city, part of their requirements to get their business licence is at least 20% of their contracts must goto black businesses that are either purely black sole proprietorships or are corporations that are 75% black owned as a condition.

And if white people can't find black contractor ? Then they're going to have to implement the CHINA LAW.

When the white supremacist came into China they thought that they could run the same game they do on blacks and other non whites but China said "Wait a minute. Hold your brakes white man. You're not gonna come over here and take it over. You're going to have to enter into contracts with Chinese automotive companies and that's mandatory and you'll share it 50-50 with our own home grown Chinese companies. Your not gonna come here and rape the economy and leave us with nothing "

So if a white contractor can't find a black contractor. He's gonna be told

"Say hello to your new 50-50 black partner Mr white man. Every morning. You're gonna go all over the books with him, all over the plans, all over the numbers, all over the blueprints, all over the procedure"

And at the end everybody is gonna know how set up this freeway, this building when it is done.

And if he doesn't like it he's told. "OK. Mr White Supremacist contractor. Would you like 50% of the contract ? Or 0% of the contract ?"

He'll start acting right.

If this happened you would see economic earthquakes in 12 months.

Contacts that go 100% to white businesses needs to be stopped.

When it comes to building the schools, the parks, who get's the contract ? Not black people and if there no black vendors then programs need to be set up to make sure there are in the future otherwise you don't get the contract (The China Law)

Black people built the USA but if black kids are growing up seeing white people building this, building that and they see no one in their family building that's gonna condition the brain into thinking "That's what white people do, that's not for us"

New York that's a city with 20% blk population but all you see is whites doing the side walk work and street work and they keep that for themselves.

And if it's MAJORITY a black city ALL OF THE CONTRACTS SHOULD GO TO A BLACK CONTRACTOR

When small business have stable contracts with larger companies this enables the smaller business to make long term plans. They can get access to lines of credit.

Bill Gates wasn't some business marvel.

He took the idea for windows from Xerox and another guy who did the coding and took to IBM.

He was able to get a contact from IBM for Windows. He didn't get a job with IBM but he went on to be bigger than IBM. Thats how white wealth is built. Elon Musk is the definition of white privilege he cashed out on paypal so now all he has to do is say "Hey, I got an idea" and rich ppl all over the world show up simply to sponsor his idea. It doesn't matter how crazy his idea is people would pump him so much money that it almost eliminates failure

Imagine solid black business had that kinda access to wealth ? There'd be an economic revolution in years.

8. REPRIATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD.

That is the descendants of American slaves. The goal of white supremacist is make black ppl think we are permanent labor class. A never ending consumer class and when you've out lived your usefulness we can use you as live stock for the prisoners.

[X]

Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.

Good idea, that idea worked really well in Liberia and Israel 👍🏼

[Gandalf]

Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.

I kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.

I

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.

I kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.

I

Glad you see it that way. It certainly would put the rest a lot of suspicions and presumptions on both sides. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not want black people to define the word success within the context of the white system, a system which had for the past nearly 400 years crushed their spirit and their identity and had forbidden them under penalty of death from becoming literate.

Illiteracy was the way the blacks survived those 400 years of pure hell

Want to sneak a book under your bed and learn the alphabet? See that noose over there, you uppity N*****?

So now you are free, and carrying the destruction of your soul multiplied exponentially over the past 400 years, the anger the rage the feeling of revenge, the absolute spiritual desolation and desperation, the wiping out of the sense of self by the abusers in the oppressors,. .....

Would you want to be defined by those very same people within their very same systems?

NO, HENCE THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD PROCLAIMING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS A JOKE. THE PEOPLE NEED LAND AND A WAY TO OPERATE AMONGST THEMSELVES TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, THEIR OWN UNIQUE SYSTEM, UNIQUE TO THEIR STYLES AND UNIQUE TO THEIR CULTURES AND HERITAGES.

[X]

Can comebody define 'black'?

[Gandalf]

Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.

I kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.

I

Glad you see it that way. It certainly would put the rest a lot of suspicions and presumptions on both sides. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not want black people to define the word success within the context of the white system, a system which had for the past nearly 400 years crushed their spirit and their identity and had forbidden them under penalty of death from becoming literate.

Illiteracy was the way the blacks survived those 400 years of pure hell

Want to sneak a book under your bed and learn the alphabet? See that noose over there, you uppity N*****?

So now you are free, and carrying the destruction of your soul multiplied exponentially over the past 400 years, the anger the rage the feeling of revenge, the absolute spiritual desolation and desperation, the wiping out of the sense of self by the abusers in the oppressors,. .....

Would you want to be defined by those very same people within their very same systems?

NO, HENCE THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD PROCLAIMING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS A JOKE. THE PEOPLE NEED LAND AND A WAY TO OPERATE AMONGST THEMSELVES TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, THEIR OWN UNIQUE SYSTEM, UNIQUE TO THEIR STYLES AND UNIQUE TO THEIR CULTURES AND HERITAGES.

If they don't like it, they could do what you and I have done. Lots of black countries out there. The reality is the single Mum types won't have the same welfare beyond.