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    Default Re: 3 Solutions-If You Were The Leader Of Your Country

    I am under the impression #3 is the most difficult.
    https://www.quora.com/What-happens-w...t-pay-its-debt

    Seems easy to say- we aint paying- but the consequences IMO are based on conspiracy theories- difficult to prove- meaning there are shadow/clandestine organizations that almost work for the central bank the way hairy knuckle dragging Gweedo the Italian shows up at Joe Blow's house cause he didn't pay the mob.

    Wars can be forced on a country- bonds can be rejected- then a domino effect- but hey- IMO this means those who rebound know not to ever attach themselves to a bank- they have no control in raising lower interest, prevention of recession, we forfeited all that- because somehow we think it is smart to say I don't want some politicians deciding that.
    Yet elect them and only know the name of the Fed Chairman, nothing more...

    Anyone got any solid info- on what happens when sovereign default occurs?

    I am not in favor of a central bank the people can't identify. I am not in favor of a government that wants to attach itself to a gambling system. want a stock market, fine, but don't attach government to it.
    So be it 1929 or 2008 if the stock market crash- that shit is supposed to impact stock buyers, not people who don't give a rats azz about it.

    But because we have given ourselves up- then turn around & say thinks like I don't want a globalist this or that...damn U got it already! USA fucks up...other nations got to bare that brunt- no way in hell can one find Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine to Andrew Jackson who thought anything other than...shenanigans' by cronyism.

    Not sure if GOLD standard is best to get back on- but whatever resources we have in abundance- would be used to match the printing of currency-so we have something compensate @kirkland still around? Interested to hear his take or anyone working in the financial sector- I am just using fantasy to make my dream government, -on #3 that is!
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: 3 Solutions-If You Were The Leader Of Your Country

    Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.
    July 4th his remaining student is giving -I think his last talk- He is pleading for America to save herself from a pending wrath. Or let those of us secede to another territory so this government doesn't have to deal with useless solutions like affirmative action, civil rights...what is that? Human rights is all we need!

    Unfortunately those are the names so many whites can agree on -that is racist; all black leaders who stand up. No matter the generation. Garvey, Muhammad.

    When a great leader like Abraham Lincoln has to walk out to bring in Frederik Douglass, because the military were willing to disobey- no n-words allowed...I mean when Rough Rider Roosevelt- just invited Booker T Washington to dine and find means to let blacks do for themselves...he got met with death threats?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booker...he_White_House
    Different decade, same problem only now, there are so many down trodden whites from cronyism, evil foreign policies and plenty of puppets willing to play prez- racism takes a back seat. I think Dubya, Obama, none willing to do what they know is necessary to save this nation: one may have to place their lives on the line.


    The Honorable Elijah Muhammad students to this day are probably more conservative than most whites care to know- they are against abortion, do not accept entitlement programs. Can be put out the nation for adultery, bearing children without marriage. Obey all laws accept the right to bare arms but are prohibited from use- in that they fear it could be used against them.

    Today he states anyone who doesn't adhere to the nature showing us the time via adverse weather, the nations uprising, no race or creed can escape. That isn't racist. This is the calling of America.
    Is Babylon really a mystery now? or is she known. And if America...or when she falls...what nation other -could be worthy of hearing people saying "Mystery Babylon the Great Has Fallen?:
    My pop told me he attended their annual event in like 1972, LOL he said the little dude spoke for 30 seconds...and left. He walked up and said Black man...get up...and do something for self. Stop blaming. Do something for self.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: 3 Solutions-If You Were The Leader Of Your Country

    3 Solutions for the USA ?

    I need 8 solutions.

    1. THE AGENDA MUST ADDRESS BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE ONLY

    No diversions into non-black issues. Not LGTB. Not minority. Not black and brown.

    Black people have no friends. I can't stand the term "People Of Color"

    We not only have to deal white supremacists. But Asians who are anti black. White Latinos who are anti black. Native Americans who are anti black.

    2. BLACK SOCIETY'S TOP PRIORITY IS ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT

    Black progress is measured in dollars. If black people as a group have got more dollars then we're moving in the right direction. No hand picked black ppl like Oprah. Either we all coming up or we are all going down. The black economic structure needs to be controlled by black ppl. If we are not holders of capital. If we are not able to finance things at an unlimited global and universal level then the system is failing.

    White supremacists may hate us because we are black but they're able to victimise us because we are poor and as long as we remain poor we remain easy victims.

    The wealth of the USA and the western world was built on exploiting black labour and later systematic racism to trap black people into being a never ending labor, consumer and prison class of people. The Homestead Act gave whites free land which they passed down generationally all the while bombing any attempt at black economic empowerment (Black wall street and Tulsa)

    After WW2 Japan was bombed. The USA rebuilt Japan to 20th century specifications and now uses it as one of their puppet states. Japan was given a Marshall plan with clear goals to rebuild it to become an industrial player. The same needs to be done for black business development because white and non black people control the economy of every single black neigbourhood in America.

    But there is not single white neighbourhood in the world were black ppl control white ppl's economy.

    Black economic empowerment is the foundation.

    3. THE TOTAL DISMANTLING OF WHITE SUPREMACY

    Black people are up against a system that permeates every factor, every facet of black ppl lives.

    Look at how the Japanese were treated after they went to war with the USA. The country was flattened. Not to mention the nuclear fallout which lasted for yrs. But look at them now ? Everyone slobbers and drools over so called Japanese intelligence. They were helped and assisted.

    Look at the Jews. They had the Nuremberg trials. They hunted down anyone who was a nazi. Even today if they find a 101 year old Nazi, they'll make stand (actually most of em can't even stand) before a trial but looks at the Jews today ? Jews are one of the most powerful racial groups on the planet.

    They dismantled white supremacy in Germany in regards to the Jews. That needs to happen to black ppl today. White supremacy must recognised as the ultimate evil meaning that it's criminalised and outlawed. The same way they did in Nazi Germany

    Questions ?

    "Well erm. Denilson. They didn't totally eradicate racism in Germany"

    Give me what the Jews have and we'll make it work.

    4. WHITE SUPREMACIST AND POLICE VIOLENCE IS A HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION

    When other countries shoot their citizens. The USA is quick to call that a human rights violation but when white supremacist do the same to unarmed black ppl then that's proper police procedure and self defence.

    The police are the enforcement arm of white supremacy and law enforcement has been infested by white supremacists and nothing has been done to root them out.

    That's why all the madness and rioting on the streets is happening.

    There are white supremacist beat cops, sergeants, captains, police chiefs and prosecutors who are using sheriff departments as havens and nests were white supremacist can be hired to kill black ppl and the white supremacist district attorney will back them up on it.

    White supremacists are terrorists and they should be punished.

    5. SCHOOLS CAN NO LONGER BE WEAPONIZED AGAINST BLACK CHILDREN

    Black kids are the targets of racist school teachers and administrators. Their chief form of abuse is to claim that the black child has a learning disability and the only way you can deal with them is to put the child on drugs or in special education. They also play on poverty of many black people by saying "We'll increase your county check, if you just give jamal this drug"

    Knowing full well that drugs and special ed increases the black child's chances of failing in school, becoming a drop out and ending up in prison.

    In the USA they put prisons where the drop out rates are the highest. And now that you have prisons for profit. They need to make sure they have fresh stock.

    This is all done so that white kids don't have to compete in the global market place with blacks.

    6. REMOVAL OF THE SYMBOLS SYSTEMATIC RACISM ON PUBLIC GROUNDS

    Germany has done quite well since WW2 without having statutes of the Nazi's but in the USA white supremacists nazis are on the steps of the courthouses and town squares across the USA. A black person should not have to look at a statue of Robert E Lee or Stonewall Jackson when he enters a court house. because that's a sure sign that he'll get no justice in there.

    Germany has train stations, jet airplanes and freeways. All inventions of the Nazis but Germany doesn't have public statues of Wernher von Braun. Sure they kept the Nazi innovations but they put the Nazi inventors in a Museum.

    7) MANDATORY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE CONTRACTS RESERVED FOR BLACK BUSINESSES (20%)

    The reconstitution of the American economic order.

    These entities (Companies) have to do 20% business with black businesses.

    Companies in the USA receive public assistance in the form of tax breaks and EVEN tax credits as well free infrastructure upgrades to make it easier for them to do business. Whenever they build a Walmart or a Whole-foods or whatever, they redo the whole dam inter-section. For a Walmart they put up new traffic lights, new sewage lines, they use millions of blk tax money for white companies.

    But they'll never do that for a black business. Because when black people show up it "O no !! Thats welfare ! We cant give you nothing" meanwhile they're given white businesses millions.

    So corporations that want to do business in a city, part of their requirements to get their business licence is at least 20% of their contracts must goto black businesses that are either purely black sole proprietorships or are corporations that are 75% black owned as a condition.

    And if white people can't find black contractor ? Then they're going to have to implement the CHINA LAW.

    When the white supremacist came into China they thought that they could run the same game they do on blacks and other non whites but China said "Wait a minute. Hold your brakes white man. You're not gonna come over here and take it over. You're going to have to enter into contracts with Chinese automotive companies and that's mandatory and you'll share it 50-50 with our own home grown Chinese companies. Your not gonna come here and rape the economy and leave us with nothing "

    So if a white contractor can't find a black contractor. He's gonna be told

    "Say hello to your new 50-50 black partner Mr white man. Every morning. You're gonna go all over the books with him, all over the plans, all over the numbers, all over the blueprints, all over the procedure"

    And at the end everybody is gonna know how set up this freeway, this building when it is done.

    And if he doesn't like it he's told. "OK. Mr White Supremacist contractor. Would you like 50% of the contract ? Or 0% of the contract ?"

    He'll start acting right.

    If this happened you would see economic earthquakes in 12 months.

    Contacts that go 100% to white businesses needs to be stopped.

    When it comes to building the schools, the parks, who get's the contract ? Not black people and if there no black vendors then programs need to be set up to make sure there are in the future otherwise you don't get the contract (The China Law)

    Black people built the USA but if black kids are growing up seeing white people building this, building that and they see no one in their family building that's gonna condition the brain into thinking "That's what white people do, that's not for us"

    New York that's a city with 20% blk population but all you see is whites doing the side walk work and street work and they keep that for themselves.

    And if it's MAJORITY a black city ALL OF THE CONTRACTS SHOULD GO TO A BLACK CONTRACTOR

    When small business have stable contracts with larger companies this enables the smaller business to make long term plans. They can get access to lines of credit.

    Bill Gates wasn't some business marvel.

    He took the idea for windows from Xerox and another guy who did the coding and took to IBM.

    He was able to get a contact from IBM for Windows. He didn't get a job with IBM but he went on to be bigger than IBM. Thats how white wealth is built. Elon Musk is the definition of white privilege he cashed out on paypal so now all he has to do is say "Hey, I got an idea" and rich ppl all over the world show up simply to sponsor his idea. It doesn't matter how crazy his idea is people would pump him so much money that it almost eliminates failure

    Imagine solid black business had that kinda access to wealth ? There'd be an economic revolution in years.

    8. REPRIATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD.

    That is the descendants of American slaves. The goal of white supremacist is make black ppl think we are permanent labor class. A never ending consumer class and when you've out lived your usefulness we can use you as live stock for the prisoners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.
    Good idea, that idea worked really well in Liberia and Israel 👍🏼
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.
    I kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.
    I kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.

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    Glad you see it that way. It certainly would put the rest a lot of suspicions and presumptions on both sides. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not want black people to define the word success within the context of the white system, a system which had for the past nearly 400 years crushed their spirit and their identity and had forbidden them under penalty of death from becoming literate.

    Illiteracy was the way the blacks survived those 400 years of pure hell

    Want to sneak a book under your bed and learn the alphabet? See that noose over there, you uppity N*****?

    So now you are free, and carrying the destruction of your soul multiplied exponentially over the past 400 years, the anger the rage the feeling of revenge, the absolute spiritual desolation and desperation, the wiping out of the sense of self by the abusers in the oppressors,. .....

    Would you want to be defined by those very same people within their very same systems?

    NO, HENCE THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD PROCLAIMING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS A JOKE. THE PEOPLE NEED LAND AND A WAY TO OPERATE AMONGST THEMSELVES TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, THEIR OWN UNIQUE SYSTEM, UNIQUE TO THEIR STYLES AND UNIQUE TO THEIR CULTURES AND HERITAGES.

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    Can comebody define 'black'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.
    I kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.

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    Glad you see it that way. It certainly would put the rest a lot of suspicions and presumptions on both sides. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not want black people to define the word success within the context of the white system, a system which had for the past nearly 400 years crushed their spirit and their identity and had forbidden them under penalty of death from becoming literate.

    Illiteracy was the way the blacks survived those 400 years of pure hell

    Want to sneak a book under your bed and learn the alphabet? See that noose over there, you uppity N*****?

    So now you are free, and carrying the destruction of your soul multiplied exponentially over the past 400 years, the anger the rage the feeling of revenge, the absolute spiritual desolation and desperation, the wiping out of the sense of self by the abusers in the oppressors,. .....

    Would you want to be defined by those very same people within their very same systems?

    NO, HENCE THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD PROCLAIMING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS A JOKE. THE PEOPLE NEED LAND AND A WAY TO OPERATE AMONGST THEMSELVES TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, THEIR OWN UNIQUE SYSTEM, UNIQUE TO THEIR STYLES AND UNIQUE TO THEIR CULTURES AND HERITAGES.
    If they don't like it, they could do what you and I have done. Lots of black countries out there. The reality is the single Mum types won't have the same welfare beyond.

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    Yes the welfare has become a way of life. Funny thing though, bitching about welfare as I sometimes do, the corporate welfare has cost taxpayers far more than anything. They never cut GM or Boeing welfare bailouts, but they cut poor peoples' welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Yes the welfare has become a way of life. Funny thing though, bitching about welfare as I sometimes do, the corporate welfare has cost taxpayers far more than anything. They never cut GM or Boeing welfare bailouts, but they cut poor peoples' welfare.
    We agree. Big corporations need to be more responsible if they want to survive. If the average person is meant to have enough to tide them by for rainy days, then why not the firms that are happy to make hay while the sun shines, but are unable to struggle in an emergency. Let them fall and someone else buy them up for pennies.

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