Cooking the Books on Covid-19?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

that kind of hairsplitting on masks is why nobody is bothering to use them

ANY object that obstructs airborne saliva/droplets during a 30 minute supermarket shopping spree for example from entering your membranes will help, to varying degrees. It is fucking obvious to PLANET EARTH MINUS AMERICA.

to varying degrees, with the palm of your hand being least effective over an hour's exposure, to a totally covered nose and mouth being the most obviously effective.

Now go right ahead and hairsplit, because all it does is discourage people from trying to protect themselves and others. How ELSE would you explain ANAL RETENTIVE AMERICA VIS A VIS 200 OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WHO WEAR MASKS WITHOUT WHINING?

I cant even believe Amerigan people are debating this.

[El Kabong]

that kind of hairsplitting on masks is why nobody is bothering to use them

ANY object that obstructs airborne saliva/droplets during a 30 minute supermarket shopping spree for example from entering your membranes will help, to varying degrees. It is fucking obvious to PLANET EARTH MINUS AMERICA.

to varying degrees, with the palm of your hand being least effective over an hour's exposure, to a totally covered nose and mouth being the most obviously effective.

Now go right ahead and hairsplit, because all it does is discourage people from trying to protect themselves and others. How ELSE would you explain ANAL RETENTIVE AMERICA VIS A VIS 200 OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WHO WEAR MASKS WITHOUT WHINING?

I cant even believe Amerigan people are debating this.

Debating? I asked you a fairly simple question and you've responded with a nonsensical screed.




How about just don't answer if you're going to be a chickenshit. Don't waste everyone's time

[TitoFan]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

[El Kabong]

‘Cries for help’: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic
Suspected overdoses nationally jumped 18 percent in March, 29 percent in April and 42 percent in May, data from ambulance teams, hospitals and police shows.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...drug-overdose/




Are we having fun yet? Also what about suicides? I bet those are up too!

[X]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.
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Never mind that .... the real question should be whether masks even exist at all.

Has anybody actually seen one in real life, or know anybody who wears one?

I don't mean all those fake masks that are everywhere at the moment. They aren't real, they are just what cowards and sheep are wearing because it's in the mass media.

In fact, the mass media doesn't exist either - it's all run by The Jews.

They started the Black Lives Matter movement because they obviously don't believe that white lives matter at all. It's obvious .... if black lives matter, then White one clearly can't. You can't have any nuance or shades of grey - everything must be black and white or you're a racist. Faultless logic those pesky Jews, and it's all part of their master plan to rule the world.

Nothing bad bad has ever happened to them in history, and they have always been in charge, so this is a readily attainable goal to them. A friend of mine told me they actually invented Facebook as a means of secretly communicating with each other about their world domination plans.

It makes me so angry, that I have become an activist and have encouraged all my middle class white friends to demand that Blackburn be renamed and that some old statues should be torn down. I have got some local pubs to change their names from those of slavers. That's much easier and more self gratifying than actually doing anything about systemic racism in the world.

I prefer to target Bristol city council for their racism, rather than the Han Chinese in Tibet or the Hutu in Congo because it's much easier.

[TitoFan]

They started the Black Lives Matter movement because they obviously don't believe that white lives matter at all. It's obvious .... if black lives matter, then White one clearly can't. You can't have any nuance or shades of grey - everything must be black and white or you're a racist.

Good post..... and damn good point, that one.

How could we have missed it? It's one or the other. Like an ON/OFF switch. Dimmers are not allowed.

I guess we'll just have to choose which lives matter to us.

[TIC]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

since you had the balls to sort of answer i'll go easy on you. i won't even bother with your eyes or how filtration works. so if you didn't do any research did you just you follow along like a brainless zombie? don't take that wrong. simple question. if you believe the masks work then why the need for social distancing?

[TitoFan]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

since you had the balls to sort of answer i'll go easy on you. i won't even bother with your eyes or how filtration works. so if you didn't do any research did you just you follow along like a brainless zombie? don't take that wrong. simple question. if you believe the masks work then why the need for social distancing?

Eyes.... gotcha.

Meh..... I don't believe my only two choices are 1) doing research or 2) follow along like a brainless zombie. But feel free to continue believing what you will.

Somewhere in the middle there are educated guesses and common sense.

But be that as it may..... here's the deal, and it may be the source of a lot of misunderstanding (and up to now, contention).

No one is claiming that masks are the cure-all, solve-all panacea that will magically keep you from getting the virus.

Only that, as common sense would dictate to some of us, the use of masks will protect you a bit better from the inadvertent sneeze or cough from the person next to you.... at least when compared to not wearing a mask.

No big deal.... no black magic.... no need for all the contention masks have apparently caused.

Why the need for social distancing if you're wearing a mask?

Simple. Neither is the magic pill for avoiding catching the virus. But together... they decrease your chances of getting infected significantly.

One's a barrier... the other is simply distancing.

[TIC]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

since you had the balls to sort of answer i'll go easy on you. i won't even bother with your eyes or how filtration works. so if you didn't do any research did you just you follow along like a brainless zombie? don't take that wrong. simple question. if you believe the masks work then why the need for social distancing?

Eyes.... gotcha.

Meh..... I don't believe my only two choices are 1) doing research or 2) follow along like a brainless zombie. But feel free to continue believing what you will.

Somewhere in the middle there are educated guesses and common sense.

But be that as it may..... here's the deal, and it may be the source of a lot of misunderstanding (and up to now, contention).

No one is claiming that masks are the cure-all, solve-all panacea that will magically keep you from getting the virus.

Only that, as common sense would dictate to some of us, the use of masks will protect you a bit better from the inadvertent sneeze or cough from the person next to you.... at least when compared to not wearing a mask.

No big deal.... no black magic.... no need for all the contention masks have apparently caused.

Why the need for social distancing if you're wearing a mask?

Simple. Neither is the magic pill for avoiding catching the virus. But together... they decrease your chances of getting infected significantly.

One's a barrier... the other is simply distancing.

then your answer shouldn't be yes. but you had the balls to answer so respect to you. do you believe you can't catch this virus through your eyes? doing no research would mean you are ignorant. don't take that wrong. so why are they forcing & mandating that people wear masks if they are not the cure-all? common sense would suggest a sneeze or cough would not just hone in on a mask but would also reach your eyes. so if neither are the magic pill for avoiding catching the virus then why force masks & social distancing on us? either masks work & there is no need for social distancing or social distancing works & there is no need for masks. you should learn how each type of mask & filtration works. n95. surgical. material. let me ask another question if i may. not just to you but anyone who thinks masks & gloves work. if your mask & are catching & stopping the virus shouldn't there be bio hazard bins everywhere to dispose of these highly contagious items?

[TitoFan]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

since you had the balls to sort of answer i'll go easy on you. i won't even bother with your eyes or how filtration works. so if you didn't do any research did you just you follow along like a brainless zombie? don't take that wrong. simple question. if you believe the masks work then why the need for social distancing?

Eyes.... gotcha.

Meh..... I don't believe my only two choices are 1) doing research or 2) follow along like a brainless zombie. But feel free to continue believing what you will.

Somewhere in the middle there are educated guesses and common sense.

But be that as it may..... here's the deal, and it may be the source of a lot of misunderstanding (and up to now, contention).

No one is claiming that masks are the cure-all, solve-all panacea that will magically keep you from getting the virus.

Only that, as common sense would dictate to some of us, the use of masks will protect you a bit better from the inadvertent sneeze or cough from the person next to you.... at least when compared to not wearing a mask.

No big deal.... no black magic.... no need for all the contention masks have apparently caused.

Why the need for social distancing if you're wearing a mask?

Simple. Neither is the magic pill for avoiding catching the virus. But together... they decrease your chances of getting infected significantly.

One's a barrier... the other is simply distancing.

then your answer shouldn't be yes. but you had the balls to answer so respect to you. do you believe you can't catch this virus through your eyes? doing no research would mean you are ignorant. don't take that wrong. so why are they forcing & mandating that people wear masks if they are not the cure-all? common sense would suggest a sneeze or cough would not just hone in on a mask but would also reach your eyes. so if neither are the magic pill for avoiding catching the virus then why force masks & social distancing on us? either masks work & there is no need for social distancing or social distancing works & there is no need for masks. you should learn how each type of mask & filtration works. n95. surgical. material. let me ask another question if i may. not just to you but anyone who thinks masks & gloves work. if your mask & are catching & stopping the virus shouldn't there be bio hazard bins everywhere to dispose of these highly contagious items?

So "brainless zombie" and "ignorant." Ok... I'll be sure and not take any of those wrong.

Let me correct you on something. Not doing research on something does not make you ignorant. "Research" is a word lightly thrown around by guys such as yourself and I've seen Miles (Gandalf) do it as well. It lessens the work of those who do "real" research to claim that everyone and their brother can do research. Don't take that wrong.

In this case, research would require a bio lab and plenty of equipment most mortal humans don't have ready access to.

Now... having driven that point home, I'll address the other questions. The eyes? Sure... it has been said as much. The eyes are a vulnerable point of entry for a virus. But let me say this. If you're on a boat with 4 or 5 holes in the hull, then it's a fair certainty your boat's gonna sink, right? Cool. If you patch up 3 or 4 of those holes..... and bail out some water to boot..... your boat may not be as good as new.... but you might not sink. Cool?

We're not talking "either/or" here, nor are we talking "black/white." The world is not made up of strictly absolutes. There is gray... and there are subtleties in most everything in life. I know enough about masks to make my personal choices when I go out. THAT...... is enough for me.

For you to say this............ "either masks work & there is no need for social distancing or social distancing works & there is no need for masks" smacks of pure ignorance. Don't take that wrong.

Back to the boat analogy. You're taking on water so you patch up holes and you bail water. Does bailing alone save you from sinking? Probably not. Does patching some of the holes? Probably not. Does doing both improve your chances of not sinking?
I'd say yes.

Bio hazard bins...... good point. There should be plenty of those available. If government and/or businesses are going to mandate the use of masks and gloves.... then enough bio hazard bins should be supplied to dispose of used ones.

But people are people. You see people protect themselves with gloves and masks.... only to take them off and throw them in the street. Worse than animals.

The use of gloves is another point of contention.

I use masks as I see fit.... but have hardly ever, if at all, used gloves. Why? Gloves just carry contamination from one place to another. People are so clueless as to glove use.

Besides, common sense measures such as hand sanitizer and the washing of hands is more than enough.

[Gandalf]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

They have been very careful in schools here. Masks are worn, proper masks. There was still an outbreak. They only do so much. Outbreaks will keep happening even with masks.

[TIC]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

They have been very careful in schools here. Masks are worn, proper masks. There was still an outbreak. They only do so much. Outbreaks will keep happening even with masks.

what would you call proper masks?

[Gandalf]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

They have been very careful in schools here. Masks are worn, proper masks. There was still an outbreak. They only do so much. Outbreaks will keep happening even with masks.

what would you call proper masks?

Basically the government issued masks that my wife seems to throw at me every now and then. I don't really pay much attention to them as I don't really use them much and there are no infections anywhere near me. Still all required in enclosed areas, but there is no infection in most cities of the country. It is just a few areas that keep having very sporadic clusters, but 10 cases in a city of 10 million? It is not that bad. You probably could wear the boxer short combo and be perfectly safe.

[TIC]

Hey guys, it's not my argument so sorry for butting in..... but for the most part, TIC has been asking a zillion times whether some of us believe that masks work.

My own two cents, without claiming to be an expert on the subject, is that yes.... as NoSaving said.... wearing a mask will protect you from the many minute droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing.... whether you're the one that coughed/sneezed or whether someone coughed/sneezed near you.

I suspect that holds for any airborne illness, such as the flu, or any such bug.

I think we're grasping onto aspects that really shouldn't even come into play. Maybe it's because of all the "THOU SHALT WEAR A MASK" backlash from people who bristle at being told what to do.

I'll be the first to admit..... I wear a mask when I go to crowded public places..... and I didn't even conduct any scientific research in a laboratory to determine filterability, stability, aging resistance, or any other parameter.

I just use the masks and some common sense social distancing.

They have been very careful in schools here. Masks are worn, proper masks. There was still an outbreak. They only do so much. Outbreaks will keep happening even with masks.

what would you call proper masks?

Basically the government issued masks that my wife seems to throw at me every now and then. I don't really pay much attention to them as I don't really use them much and there are no infections anywhere near me. Still all required in enclosed areas, but there is no infection in most cities of the country. It is just a few areas that keep having very sporadic clusters, but 10 cases in a city of 10 million? It is not that bad. You probably could wear the boxer short combo and be perfectly safe.

would they be n95 type masks? material masks such as bandannas or cloth are completely useless & offer no filtration

[NoSavingByTheBell]

that kind of hairsplitting on masks is why nobody is bothering to use them

ANY object that obstructs airborne saliva/droplets during a 30 minute supermarket shopping spree for example from entering your membranes will help, to varying degrees. It is fucking obvious to PLANET EARTH MINUS AMERICA.

to varying degrees, with the palm of your hand being least effective over an hour's exposure, to a totally covered nose and mouth being the most obviously effective.

Now go right ahead and hairsplit, because all it does is discourage people from trying to protect themselves and others. How ELSE would you explain ANAL RETENTIVE AMERICA VIS A VIS 200 OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WHO WEAR MASKS WITHOUT WHINING?

I cant even believe Amerigan people are debating this.

Debating? I asked you a fairly simple question and you've responded with a nonsensical screed.




How about just don't answer if you're going to be a chickenshit. Don't waste everyone's time

oooh, cool retort, retard.

Looks like youre not only deaf and fat, but blind too, as I did answer it. Move your pink-white ass cheeks and re-read the answer.