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    Default Extremism is the WORST disease

    Move over, COVID. There's a new sheriff in town.

    (I know extremism isn't new... I just wanted to say that ).

    Anyway, there's this bit of news now all over the media..............

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53371392

    "Goya Foods: Hispanic brand faces boycott for praising Trump"


    Seriously??

    Listen, I hate Trump as much as anybody. But to call for boycotts of Goya Foods because the company president praised Trump......

    That's just fucking ridiculous. What's this world coming to??

    Goya Foods has donated millions in food aid to those affected by the pandemic.

    So the owner doesn't share my personal opinion.

    I'm gonna boycott his whole company and HURT the employees of Goya Foods, many of whom may or may not share the company president's opinion?

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    Extremists on both sides need to get a grip.




    BTW.... before anyone has a heart attack.... I'm not minimizing COVID-19, as I hope the hyperbole is understood.

    With that said..... the pandemic will one day subside.

    Extremism will be with us forever.

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    Default Re: Extremism is the WORST disease

    Extremism has always existed and alway been there. Whether it gets traction and a following is another thing. The majority of sensible people will decide because I have faith in humanity and common decency.
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    I used to live one mile from the Goya Headquarters of North America in Jersey City, New Jersey. I have been buying Goya products since the 1990s.

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    Default Re: Extremism is the WORST disease

    Everyone tired of cancel culture yet?
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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    Default Re: Extremism is the WORST disease

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Everyone tired of cancel culture yet?
    john wayne up next
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Everyone tired of cancel culture yet?

    A long time ago, bro.

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    cancel culture will eventually cancel itself out

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    The right keep banging on about "cancel culture" as if the powerful establishment elitists they adore don't have a long proven track record of cancelling people and things.

    πŸ”΅ The British state "cancelled" James Connolly by tying him to a chair and shooting him to death because he fought for Irish liberation.

    πŸ”΅ After WWII the British and Americans decided to "cancel" the main Greek anti-Nazi resistance organisation EAM because they were too left-wing, resulting in the "white terror" persecution campaign against the anti-Nazi freedom fighters, and the eventual installation of the brutal Greek military dictatorships of the 1960s and '70s.

    πŸ”΅ Between 1945 qnd 1975 the US government used the House Un-American Activities Committee to "cancel" the careers of thousands of people with left-wing views. The McCarthyite Witch Hunt didn't just ruin the careers of hundreds of actors and writers in Hollywood, it ruined the lives of vast numbers of ordinary people like teachers, academics, factory and construction workers too.

    πŸ”΅ Similarly the BBC conspired with MI5 to "cancel" the careers of thousands of people with socialist and other left-leaning views, implementing a blacklist of left-wing actors, presenters, and writers that lasted well into the 1980s.

    πŸ”΅ The British state "cancelled" the code-breaker and pioneering computer scientist Alan Turing by persecuting him for homosexuality to the extent of chemically castrating him.

    πŸ”΅ The US Olympics Committee "cancelled" the careers of 200m gold medallist Tommie Smith and bronze medallist John Carlos for their black power salute at the 1968 Olympic Games. Smith had just broken the world record, and he was never allowed to run in a competitive race again! The Australian silver medallist Peter Norman was also "cancelled" by the Australian sporting authorities for showing solidarity with the Smith and Carlos protest.

    πŸ”΅ For decades the British and American states have provided huge amounts of support to right-wing military dictatorships across the world (Cuba, Indonesia, Brazil, Greece, Chile, Cambodia, Honduras, Spain, Iran, Bolivia, Philippines, Portugal, Uruguay, El Salvador, Chad, Grenada ...) as they "cancelled" the lives of hundreds of thousands of left-wing people.

    πŸ”΅ The US attempted to "cancel" the singing career of left-wing activist Paul Robeson by revoking his passport.

    πŸ”΅ The US boxing authorities tried to "cancel" the career of Mohammed Ali by revoking his titles and withdrawing his boxing licence when he refused to participate in imperialist war-mongering in Vietnam.

    πŸ”΅ The British state "cancelled" the Miami Show Band by installing a bomb on their tour bus, then machine gunning the band members when the bomb detonated prematurely. They also "cancelled" the lives of 26 unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday in 1972.

    πŸ”΅ The British and American governments supported Apartheid South Africa as they "cancelled" anti-Apartheid protesters with mass political imprisonment and outright murder (such as the letter bomb campaign that killed Ruth First).

    πŸ”΅ With the help of the UK government, eight of the biggest UK construction firms maintained a secret blacklist of trade union activist workers, that lasted between 1983 and 2009. Hundreds of construction workers had their careers "cancelled", just for arguing in favour of better pay and safer working conditions.

    πŸ”΅ In 2018 the Saudi regime "cancelled" the journalist Jamal Khashoggi by luring him to a Saudi embassy, murdering him, and dismembering his body. They've also "cancelled" thousands of civilian lives in Yemen with their campaign of war crimes, and genocidal starvation tactics. Britain and the United States continue arming this barbaric regime to the teeth, despite knowing perfectly well that the weapons they flog them are being used to commit war crimes.

    πŸ”΅ The NFL clubs have conspired to "cancel" the American Football career of Colin Colin Kaepernick for his protests against anti-black racism and police brutality.

    It's funny how the right don't give a damn about all the actual "cancel culture" that has, for decades, denied people their livelihoods, their liberty, their freedom of expression, and even their lives for their left-wing, anti-racist, and anti-imperialist beliefs ... yet they erupt into "cancel culture" outrage whenever one of their extreme-right ideologues gets their YouTube/Twitter account taken down for brazenly and repeatedly defying the community standards with racist hate speech, bigotry, bullying, promotion of genocide, and celebration of acts of extreme-right terrorism.

    The right absolutely adore posturing as victims like this, because once you've inflated your audience's victim complexes to the size of hot air balloons, it only takes tiny puffs of right-wing ultranationalist rhetoric to get them all floating towards fascism.

    Thus the latest extreme-right bigot to get themselves booted off social media becomes their latest cause célèbre, while the plight of the hundreds of thousands of people to have actually suffered brutal state persecution like political imprisonment, blacklisting, and death is completely ignored, because it simply doesn't fit their victimhood narrative.
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    The right decided that it was a good idea to make 'not wearing a mask' into a political statement in the middle of a pandemic with cases soaring.

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    The last couple of posts bring up right-wing extremism.... thus enhancing and supporting the opening post of this thread.

    Exhibit A... a quote from my opening post: "Extremists on both sides need to get a grip."





    Non-extremists such as "moi" can observe events without the tinted glasses worn by extremists on both ends. We usually can only watch in wonderment how people "rush to their assigned pole" to take up their weapons and commence fire.

    Another phenomenon that occurs with us non-extremists is that normally... extremists will pat us on the back when we lean toward their side on a particular issue.

    But lean the other way ever so slightly... and you become "ignorant", "the enemy", "polarized in the other extreme", "a hater"....... take your pick.





    I personally bask in my position as a non-extremist. It allows me the clear lens through which to look at everything and make informed, logical, productive opinions and decision.

    Hence my opinions on the current racial issues..... condemning police racial profiling and brutality, while being against the "knee-jerk" reaction of wanting to de-fund the police.

    Which is why I'm totally in favor of prohibiting the Confederate flags at NASCAR events, but caution against the indiscriminate and uncontrolled tearing down of statues.

    Which is why I would totally support grassroots racial equality efforts like reforming public school funding..... but completely scoff and facepalm at changing the Aunt Jemima brand name and logo.




    I'm gonna take the opportunity in this post to give all sorts of credit to Lyle, who although diametrically opposed to my views on many a subject...... has had the decency and even common courtesy to accept (and even "Like") some of the posts where I've stated my opinion in a well thought-out manner.


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    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    The right keep banging on about "cancel culture" as if the powerful establishment elitists they adore don't have a long proven track record of cancelling people and things.

    πŸ”΅ The British state "cancelled" James Connolly by tying him to a chair and shooting him to death because he fought for Irish liberation.

    πŸ”΅ After WWII the British and Americans decided to "cancel" the main Greek anti-Nazi resistance organisation EAM because they were too left-wing, resulting in the "white terror" persecution campaign against the anti-Nazi freedom fighters, and the eventual installation of the brutal Greek military dictatorships of the 1960s and '70s.

    πŸ”΅ Between 1945 qnd 1975 the US government used the House Un-American Activities Committee to "cancel" the careers of thousands of people with left-wing views. The McCarthyite Witch Hunt didn't just ruin the careers of hundreds of actors and writers in Hollywood, it ruined the lives of vast numbers of ordinary people like teachers, academics, factory and construction workers too.

    πŸ”΅ Similarly the BBC conspired with MI5 to "cancel" the careers of thousands of people with socialist and other left-leaning views, implementing a blacklist of left-wing actors, presenters, and writers that lasted well into the 1980s.

    πŸ”΅ The British state "cancelled" the code-breaker and pioneering computer scientist Alan Turing by persecuting him for homosexuality to the extent of chemically castrating him.

    πŸ”΅ The US Olympics Committee "cancelled" the careers of 200m gold medallist Tommie Smith and bronze medallist John Carlos for their black power salute at the 1968 Olympic Games. Smith had just broken the world record, and he was never allowed to run in a competitive race again! The Australian silver medallist Peter Norman was also "cancelled" by the Australian sporting authorities for showing solidarity with the Smith and Carlos protest.

    πŸ”΅ For decades the British and American states have provided huge amounts of support to right-wing military dictatorships across the world (Cuba, Indonesia, Brazil, Greece, Chile, Cambodia, Honduras, Spain, Iran, Bolivia, Philippines, Portugal, Uruguay, El Salvador, Chad, Grenada ...) as they "cancelled" the lives of hundreds of thousands of left-wing people.

    πŸ”΅ The US attempted to "cancel" the singing career of left-wing activist Paul Robeson by revoking his passport.

    πŸ”΅ The US boxing authorities tried to "cancel" the career of Mohammed Ali by revoking his titles and withdrawing his boxing licence when he refused to participate in imperialist war-mongering in Vietnam.

    πŸ”΅ The British state "cancelled" the Miami Show Band by installing a bomb on their tour bus, then machine gunning the band members when the bomb detonated prematurely. They also "cancelled" the lives of 26 unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday in 1972.

    πŸ”΅ The British and American governments supported Apartheid South Africa as they "cancelled" anti-Apartheid protesters with mass political imprisonment and outright murder (such as the letter bomb campaign that killed Ruth First).

    πŸ”΅ With the help of the UK government, eight of the biggest UK construction firms maintained a secret blacklist of trade union activist workers, that lasted between 1983 and 2009. Hundreds of construction workers had their careers "cancelled", just for arguing in favour of better pay and safer working conditions.

    πŸ”΅ In 2018 the Saudi regime "cancelled" the journalist Jamal Khashoggi by luring him to a Saudi embassy, murdering him, and dismembering his body. They've also "cancelled" thousands of civilian lives in Yemen with their campaign of war crimes, and genocidal starvation tactics. Britain and the United States continue arming this barbaric regime to the teeth, despite knowing perfectly well that the weapons they flog them are being used to commit war crimes.

    πŸ”΅ The NFL clubs have conspired to "cancel" the American Football career of Colin Colin Kaepernick for his protests against anti-black racism and police brutality.

    It's funny how the right don't give a damn about all the actual "cancel culture" that has, for decades, denied people their livelihoods, their liberty, their freedom of expression, and even their lives for their left-wing, anti-racist, and anti-imperialist beliefs ... yet they erupt into "cancel culture" outrage whenever one of their extreme-right ideologues gets their YouTube/Twitter account taken down for brazenly and repeatedly defying the community standards with racist hate speech, bigotry, bullying, promotion of genocide, and celebration of acts of extreme-right terrorism.

    The right absolutely adore posturing as victims like this, because once you've inflated your audience's victim complexes to the size of hot air balloons, it only takes tiny puffs of right-wing ultranationalist rhetoric to get them all floating towards fascism.

    Thus the latest extreme-right bigot to get themselves booted off social media becomes their latest cause célèbre, while the plight of the hundreds of thousands of people to have actually suffered brutal state persecution like political imprisonment, blacklisting, and death is completely ignored, because it simply doesn't fit their victimhood narrative.
    Lots of ACTUAL Communists in your examples Beanz. Care to peruse their history or is it just Nazis or nothing with you?
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    Beanz just knocked you out. GUess you wont be accepting my sparring challenge, you need to rest up. @Beanz you went a little hard on him, son. Was that really necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Beanz just knocked you out. GUess you wont be accepting my sparring challenge, you need to rest up. @Beanz you went a little hard on him, son. Was that really necessary?
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    Is kind of fecked up. Goya finally manages to expand its store space locally and now you have it targeted for β€˜boycotting’. And I’m not talking a full shelf either. Literally a quarter shelf stacked nice and neat complete with those awesome chickpeas and an owner guilty by association. In this instance we’re talking business ffs. The real shame is once again the aftermath and soap box fuckery out shines the actual political initiative that was being introduced. Though it was originally implemented by Bush each President since has boosted it up. Not to stereotype but now I really want some tacos.

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