Covid- 19 - Second wave

[TIC]

Well I think Fauci is pretty clear in what he's saying. The term "quarantine fatigue" is a good one and accurately describes what probably is driving a lot of people to go out and do things they weren't doing two months ago. If you combine that with the natural tendencies of some people to chafe under authority, or look at everything as "they're trying to deny me of my rights"...... then it's probably a perfect storm brewing and probably why other pandemics in the past have had second waves. Because people are people and every era has had those who buck authority or just get tired of being cooped up. We'll see how it all pans out, but it doesn't look good.

Many different variables but off the top I think it really does reveal just how selfish we are. Basically it was what, 2 months of some uncomfortable and yes costly limitations for many depending on location. It became 100 percent politicized. We're an impatient tunnel vision society demanding instant gratification. I cringe when I hear the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store equated to 'violating my rights'. Our 'rights' are trampled every day on a far graver scale. We've become truly out of touch.

do you believe masks work? it's the boiling frog analogy. a little bit at a time so you don't notice until it's to late

Bringing back the classics eh. At the very least they help minimize the risk of something we as a Country have completely botched the response to and were a reality in my profession long before Covid became a political football. Next person going to the Dentist be sure to tell the staff to go bareback while they breathe down your gullet for hours of work. I don't really like wearing pants when I shop but dems da rules.

your lateral movement is better than lomas. so minimize not prevent? a dentists mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

Next time you have work done or a surgical procedure of any type preformed tell the half dozen strangers in the room no masks required because you're bullet proof and all.

shall i go slower for ya? where is surgery performed? a surgical mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

If ye go any slower you'd be going backwards Ta dum tish. Speaking in general everyday life. Forget Covid. I get that the tag duo of the anti masking Bushwackers is forming up here but I'm just saying next time you get something done simply ask that everyone go mask free. You don't believe it's real. I get it. It's ok.

trying to keep it at a pace suitable for the slightly retarded. so forget covid now? do you wear a mask for the flu or for tuberculosis? of course you don't. i'm just asking if a surgical mask would prevent them inhaling the virus you believe in? you brought up the dentist yeh. you talk about the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store, then talk about a dentists surgical mask & operating room. hows that filtration on a surgical mask work again?

Ah come on Tickles no need to start throwing someones disability in their face, my point is this if you could stop eating the crayons long enough....you believe masks to be ineffective and in general useless from reducing exposure to spread illness correct? An item of control correct?

i understand how masks work & how each type of filtration is suited to a different situation & that a material mask is as good as using underwear to trying & stop a fart escaping. we are talking about a virus that you believe is caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces. if you want to talk spread of illness that is a different subject to what you claim to be a virus

So you believe material masks are useless for spread of virus through airborne particles but others say n-95 in conjunction with say a face shield may offer some reduced risk? The question of complete transmission types would seem to still be up in the air really.

a n95 mask is for use when there is contamination, so yes with a face shield it would reduce the risk of that person being exposed to what you call a virus. but it wouldn't stop an infected person breathing the virus into the air. also the size of a virus comes into question & the ability to stop exposure to it. but i don't believe disease is caused the same way you do. why have you changed your direction from the simplicity of wearing a mask & using a dentist & an operating room as a comparison to a store? is it because you now realize a surgical mask won't prevent someone inhaling the virus you believe in?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AmD..._swBAWhq6/view

[Spicoli]

Well I think Fauci is pretty clear in what he's saying. The term "quarantine fatigue" is a good one and accurately describes what probably is driving a lot of people to go out and do things they weren't doing two months ago. If you combine that with the natural tendencies of some people to chafe under authority, or look at everything as "they're trying to deny me of my rights"...... then it's probably a perfect storm brewing and probably why other pandemics in the past have had second waves. Because people are people and every era has had those who buck authority or just get tired of being cooped up. We'll see how it all pans out, but it doesn't look good.

Many different variables but off the top I think it really does reveal just how selfish we are. Basically it was what, 2 months of some uncomfortable and yes costly limitations for many depending on location. It became 100 percent politicized. We're an impatient tunnel vision society demanding instant gratification. I cringe when I hear the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store equated to 'violating my rights'. Our 'rights' are trampled every day on a far graver scale. We've become truly out of touch.

do you believe masks work? it's the boiling frog analogy. a little bit at a time so you don't notice until it's to late

Bringing back the classics eh. At the very least they help minimize the risk of something we as a Country have completely botched the response to and were a reality in my profession long before Covid became a political football. Next person going to the Dentist be sure to tell the staff to go bareback while they breathe down your gullet for hours of work. I don't really like wearing pants when I shop but dems da rules.

your lateral movement is better than lomas. so minimize not prevent? a dentists mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

Next time you have work done or a surgical procedure of any type preformed tell the half dozen strangers in the room no masks required because you're bullet proof and all.

shall i go slower for ya? where is surgery performed? a surgical mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

If ye go any slower you'd be going backwards Ta dum tish. Speaking in general everyday life. Forget Covid. I get that the tag duo of the anti masking Bushwackers is forming up here but I'm just saying next time you get something done simply ask that everyone go mask free. You don't believe it's real. I get it. It's ok.

trying to keep it at a pace suitable for the slightly retarded. so forget covid now? do you wear a mask for the flu or for tuberculosis? of course you don't. i'm just asking if a surgical mask would prevent them inhaling the virus you believe in? you brought up the dentist yeh. you talk about the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store, then talk about a dentists surgical mask & operating room. hows that filtration on a surgical mask work again?

Ah come on Tickles no need to start throwing someones disability in their face, my point is this if you could stop eating the crayons long enough....you believe masks to be ineffective and in general useless from reducing exposure to spread illness correct? An item of control correct?

i understand how masks work & how each type of filtration is suited to a different situation & that a material mask is as good as using underwear to trying & stop a fart escaping. we are talking about a virus that you believe is caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces. if you want to talk spread of illness that is a different subject to what you claim to be a virus

So you believe material masks are useless for spread of virus through airborne particles but others say n-95 in conjunction with say a face shield may offer some reduced risk? The question of complete transmission types would seem to still be up in the air really.

a n95 mask is for use when there is contamination, so yes with a face shield it would reduce the risk of that person being exposed to what you call a virus. but it wouldn't stop an infected person breathing the virus into the air. also the size of a virus comes into question & the ability to stop exposure to it. but i don't believe disease is caused the same way you do. why have you changed your direction from the simplicity of wearing a mask & using a dentist & an operating room as a comparison to a store? is it because you now realize a surgical mask won't prevent someone inhaling the virus you believe in?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AmD..._swBAWhq6/view

But it does greatly reduce what becomes airborne particles by the wearer. A material, well usually thats what a dentist or doctor wears. May add face shield if lots of work. In a store vs medical there's very little chance a shopper will be leaning over my face for hours risking drooling into my wide open jaw. But you nor I really have no idea what a dentist of Doctor carries on any given day. Could be a cold, might have early virus of some type, may have nothing at all detected. Same holds for us to them. But they wear material masks. Just asking if you'd be good with a maskless procedure. And I've never actually said it's a 100 percent preventative, but a step to minimize and reduce.

[TIC]

Well I think Fauci is pretty clear in what he's saying. The term "quarantine fatigue" is a good one and accurately describes what probably is driving a lot of people to go out and do things they weren't doing two months ago. If you combine that with the natural tendencies of some people to chafe under authority, or look at everything as "they're trying to deny me of my rights"...... then it's probably a perfect storm brewing and probably why other pandemics in the past have had second waves. Because people are people and every era has had those who buck authority or just get tired of being cooped up. We'll see how it all pans out, but it doesn't look good.

Many different variables but off the top I think it really does reveal just how selfish we are. Basically it was what, 2 months of some uncomfortable and yes costly limitations for many depending on location. It became 100 percent politicized. We're an impatient tunnel vision society demanding instant gratification. I cringe when I hear the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store equated to 'violating my rights'. Our 'rights' are trampled every day on a far graver scale. We've become truly out of touch.

do you believe masks work? it's the boiling frog analogy. a little bit at a time so you don't notice until it's to late

Bringing back the classics eh. At the very least they help minimize the risk of something we as a Country have completely botched the response to and were a reality in my profession long before Covid became a political football. Next person going to the Dentist be sure to tell the staff to go bareback while they breathe down your gullet for hours of work. I don't really like wearing pants when I shop but dems da rules.

your lateral movement is better than lomas. so minimize not prevent? a dentists mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

Next time you have work done or a surgical procedure of any type preformed tell the half dozen strangers in the room no masks required because you're bullet proof and all.

shall i go slower for ya? where is surgery performed? a surgical mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

If ye go any slower you'd be going backwards Ta dum tish. Speaking in general everyday life. Forget Covid. I get that the tag duo of the anti masking Bushwackers is forming up here but I'm just saying next time you get something done simply ask that everyone go mask free. You don't believe it's real. I get it. It's ok.

trying to keep it at a pace suitable for the slightly retarded. so forget covid now? do you wear a mask for the flu or for tuberculosis? of course you don't. i'm just asking if a surgical mask would prevent them inhaling the virus you believe in? you brought up the dentist yeh. you talk about the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store, then talk about a dentists surgical mask & operating room. hows that filtration on a surgical mask work again?

Ah come on Tickles no need to start throwing someones disability in their face, my point is this if you could stop eating the crayons long enough....you believe masks to be ineffective and in general useless from reducing exposure to spread illness correct? An item of control correct?

i understand how masks work & how each type of filtration is suited to a different situation & that a material mask is as good as using underwear to trying & stop a fart escaping. we are talking about a virus that you believe is caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces. if you want to talk spread of illness that is a different subject to what you claim to be a virus

So you believe material masks are useless for spread of virus through airborne particles but others say n-95 in conjunction with say a face shield may offer some reduced risk? The question of complete transmission types would seem to still be up in the air really.

a n95 mask is for use when there is contamination, so yes with a face shield it would reduce the risk of that person being exposed to what you call a virus. but it wouldn't stop an infected person breathing the virus into the air. also the size of a virus comes into question & the ability to stop exposure to it. but i don't believe disease is caused the same way you do. why have you changed your direction from the simplicity of wearing a mask & using a dentist & an operating room as a comparison to a store? is it because you now realize a surgical mask won't prevent someone inhaling the virus you believe in?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AmD..._swBAWhq6/view

But it does greatly reduce what becomes airborne particles by the wearer. A material, well usually thats what a dentist or doctor wears. May add face shield if lots of work. In a store vs medical there's very little chance a shopper will be leaning over my face for hours risking drooling into my wide open jaw. But you nor I really have no idea what a dentist of Doctor carries on any given day. Could be a cold, might have early virus of some type, may have nothing at all detected. Same holds for us to them. But they wear material masks. Just asking if you'd be good with a maskless procedure. And I've never actually said it's a 100 percent preventative, but a step to minimize and reduce.

depends on the type of mask & how it is used. a dentists mask is not there to stop what you believe is a virus & the filtration of a surgical mask works on the exhale. no filtration on inhale. i'd be okay with a maskless procedure. i'd be more worried about contamination from other elements

[Spicoli]

Well I think Fauci is pretty clear in what he's saying. The term "quarantine fatigue" is a good one and accurately describes what probably is driving a lot of people to go out and do things they weren't doing two months ago. If you combine that with the natural tendencies of some people to chafe under authority, or look at everything as "they're trying to deny me of my rights"...... then it's probably a perfect storm brewing and probably why other pandemics in the past have had second waves. Because people are people and every era has had those who buck authority or just get tired of being cooped up. We'll see how it all pans out, but it doesn't look good.

Many different variables but off the top I think it really does reveal just how selfish we are. Basically it was what, 2 months of some uncomfortable and yes costly limitations for many depending on location. It became 100 percent politicized. We're an impatient tunnel vision society demanding instant gratification. I cringe when I hear the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store equated to 'violating my rights'. Our 'rights' are trampled every day on a far graver scale. We've become truly out of touch.

do you believe masks work? it's the boiling frog analogy. a little bit at a time so you don't notice until it's to late

Bringing back the classics eh. At the very least they help minimize the risk of something we as a Country have completely botched the response to and were a reality in my profession long before Covid became a political football. Next person going to the Dentist be sure to tell the staff to go bareback while they breathe down your gullet for hours of work. I don't really like wearing pants when I shop but dems da rules.

your lateral movement is better than lomas. so minimize not prevent? a dentists mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

Next time you have work done or a surgical procedure of any type preformed tell the half dozen strangers in the room no masks required because you're bullet proof and all.

shall i go slower for ya? where is surgery performed? a surgical mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

If ye go any slower you'd be going backwards Ta dum tish. Speaking in general everyday life. Forget Covid. I get that the tag duo of the anti masking Bushwackers is forming up here but I'm just saying next time you get something done simply ask that everyone go mask free. You don't believe it's real. I get it. It's ok.

trying to keep it at a pace suitable for the slightly retarded. so forget covid now? do you wear a mask for the flu or for tuberculosis? of course you don't. i'm just asking if a surgical mask would prevent them inhaling the virus you believe in? you brought up the dentist yeh. you talk about the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store, then talk about a dentists surgical mask & operating room. hows that filtration on a surgical mask work again?

Ah come on Tickles no need to start throwing someones disability in their face, my point is this if you could stop eating the crayons long enough....you believe masks to be ineffective and in general useless from reducing exposure to spread illness correct? An item of control correct?

i understand how masks work & how each type of filtration is suited to a different situation & that a material mask is as good as using underwear to trying & stop a fart escaping. we are talking about a virus that you believe is caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces. if you want to talk spread of illness that is a different subject to what you claim to be a virus

So you believe material masks are useless for spread of virus through airborne particles but others say n-95 in conjunction with say a face shield may offer some reduced risk? The question of complete transmission types would seem to still be up in the air really.

a n95 mask is for use when there is contamination, so yes with a face shield it would reduce the risk of that person being exposed to what you call a virus. but it wouldn't stop an infected person breathing the virus into the air. also the size of a virus comes into question & the ability to stop exposure to it. but i don't believe disease is caused the same way you do. why have you changed your direction from the simplicity of wearing a mask & using a dentist & an operating room as a comparison to a store? is it because you now realize a surgical mask won't prevent someone inhaling the virus you believe in?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AmD..._swBAWhq6/view

But it does greatly reduce what becomes airborne particles by the wearer. A material, well usually thats what a dentist or doctor wears. May add face shield if lots of work. In a store vs medical there's very little chance a shopper will be leaning over my face for hours risking drooling into my wide open jaw. But you nor I really have no idea what a dentist of Doctor carries on any given day. Could be a cold, might have early virus of some type, may have nothing at all detected. Same holds for us to them. But they wear material masks. Just asking if you'd be good with a maskless procedure. And I've never actually said it's a 100 percent preventative, but a step to minimize and reduce.

depends on the type of mask & how it is used. a dentists mask is not there to stop what you believe is a virus & the filtration of a surgical mask works on the exhale. no filtration on inhale. i'd be okay with a maskless procedure. i'd be more worried about contamination from other elements

Man that was like pulling teeth but thanks for answering. Not me but I'd require a face shield for operator too. Seems precautions are the order of the day. Again you never know what actual or mythical 'virus' bacteria etc is being carried. Instruments and gloves are rite for cross contamination.

[TIC]

Well I think Fauci is pretty clear in what he's saying. The term "quarantine fatigue" is a good one and accurately describes what probably is driving a lot of people to go out and do things they weren't doing two months ago. If you combine that with the natural tendencies of some people to chafe under authority, or look at everything as "they're trying to deny me of my rights"...... then it's probably a perfect storm brewing and probably why other pandemics in the past have had second waves. Because people are people and every era has had those who buck authority or just get tired of being cooped up. We'll see how it all pans out, but it doesn't look good.

Many different variables but off the top I think it really does reveal just how selfish we are. Basically it was what, 2 months of some uncomfortable and yes costly limitations for many depending on location. It became 100 percent politicized. We're an impatient tunnel vision society demanding instant gratification. I cringe when I hear the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store equated to 'violating my rights'. Our 'rights' are trampled every day on a far graver scale. We've become truly out of touch.

do you believe masks work? it's the boiling frog analogy. a little bit at a time so you don't notice until it's to late

Bringing back the classics eh. At the very least they help minimize the risk of something we as a Country have completely botched the response to and were a reality in my profession long before Covid became a political football. Next person going to the Dentist be sure to tell the staff to go bareback while they breathe down your gullet for hours of work. I don't really like wearing pants when I shop but dems da rules.

your lateral movement is better than lomas. so minimize not prevent? a dentists mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

Next time you have work done or a surgical procedure of any type preformed tell the half dozen strangers in the room no masks required because you're bullet proof and all.

shall i go slower for ya? where is surgery performed? a surgical mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?

If ye go any slower you'd be going backwards Ta dum tish. Speaking in general everyday life. Forget Covid. I get that the tag duo of the anti masking Bushwackers is forming up here but I'm just saying next time you get something done simply ask that everyone go mask free. You don't believe it's real. I get it. It's ok.

trying to keep it at a pace suitable for the slightly retarded. so forget covid now? do you wear a mask for the flu or for tuberculosis? of course you don't. i'm just asking if a surgical mask would prevent them inhaling the virus you believe in? you brought up the dentist yeh. you talk about the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store, then talk about a dentists surgical mask & operating room. hows that filtration on a surgical mask work again?

Ah come on Tickles no need to start throwing someones disability in their face, my point is this if you could stop eating the crayons long enough....you believe masks to be ineffective and in general useless from reducing exposure to spread illness correct? An item of control correct?

i understand how masks work & how each type of filtration is suited to a different situation & that a material mask is as good as using underwear to trying & stop a fart escaping. we are talking about a virus that you believe is caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces. if you want to talk spread of illness that is a different subject to what you claim to be a virus

So you believe material masks are useless for spread of virus through airborne particles but others say n-95 in conjunction with say a face shield may offer some reduced risk? The question of complete transmission types would seem to still be up in the air really.

a n95 mask is for use when there is contamination, so yes with a face shield it would reduce the risk of that person being exposed to what you call a virus. but it wouldn't stop an infected person breathing the virus into the air. also the size of a virus comes into question & the ability to stop exposure to it. but i don't believe disease is caused the same way you do. why have you changed your direction from the simplicity of wearing a mask & using a dentist & an operating room as a comparison to a store? is it because you now realize a surgical mask won't prevent someone inhaling the virus you believe in?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AmD..._swBAWhq6/view

But it does greatly reduce what becomes airborne particles by the wearer. A material, well usually thats what a dentist or doctor wears. May add face shield if lots of work. In a store vs medical there's very little chance a shopper will be leaning over my face for hours risking drooling into my wide open jaw. But you nor I really have no idea what a dentist of Doctor carries on any given day. Could be a cold, might have early virus of some type, may have nothing at all detected. Same holds for us to them. But they wear material masks. Just asking if you'd be good with a maskless procedure. And I've never actually said it's a 100 percent preventative, but a step to minimize and reduce.

depends on the type of mask & how it is used. a dentists mask is not there to stop what you believe is a virus & the filtration of a surgical mask works on the exhale. no filtration on inhale. i'd be okay with a maskless procedure. i'd be more worried about contamination from other elements

Man that was like pulling teeth but thanks for answering. Not me but I'd require a face shield for operator too. Seems precautions are the order of the day. Again you never know what actual or mythical 'virus' bacteria etc is being carried. Instruments and gloves are rite for cross contamination.

i had no problem answering but your question was not relevant to masks working against a virus. i don't believe disease is caused the way you do, especially regarding viruses. as i have said here before the only way to stop the described virus would be a hazmat suit with it's own air supply. over here it is getting crazy. i might need to go bush before the lockdowns get me

[NoSavingByTheBell]

YOur ass in Melbourne then you are locked like a mofo down, screws tightened and shit, nailed to the floor bro!

[TIC]

YOur ass in Melbourne then you are locked like a mofo down, screws tightened and shit, nailed to the floor bro!

the scam coming to nsw next. they keep pushing the bullshit