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    Default Re: Erickson Lubin v Terrell Gausha on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ennis turning it up in 5th jarring Abreu and lands hard on the beltline, Abreu looks for a time out and ref says keep fighting. In turn Abreu hits Ennis in his Ennis Jr and both warned. Ennis walking in behind high shoulder guard and landing left hooks..and down he goes. Abreu flat and up at 8! Abreu not long for this. Beautiful inside right uppercut counter got the KD, very fluid
    thats how steve forbes knocked out julio sanchez leon.



    a while ago it used to be that, if you missed a right hand, you'd bring your right arm across your face, sort of like a face bar, so you could catch that counter in palm of your right glove.



    if you watch all the old fights you will see guys doing that often. i think it might have something to do with how fighters used to throw that counter more often. it is nice to see someone that can still do that today, even if no one else knows how to keep from getting hit by it today.

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    Default Re: Erickson Lubin v Terrell Gausha on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ennis turning it up in 5th jarring Abreu and lands hard on the beltline, Abreu looks for a time out and ref says keep fighting. In turn Abreu hits Ennis in his Ennis Jr and both warned. Ennis walking in behind high shoulder guard and landing left hooks..and down he goes. Abreu flat and up at 8! Abreu not long for this. Beautiful inside right uppercut counter got the KD, very fluid
    thats how steve forbes knocked out julio sanchez leon.



    a while ago it used to be that, if you missed a right hand, you'd bring your right arm across your face, sort of like a face bar, so you could catch that counter in palm of your right glove.



    if you watch all the old fights you will see guys doing that often. i think it might have something to do with how fighters used to throw that counter more often. it is nice to see someone that can still do that today, even if no one else knows how to keep from getting hit by it today.


    Nice comparison between the two shots. However, my thoughts on the bottom one is that the guy throwing the right hand isn't doing so with any conviction and is almost expecting the upper counter..... so in effect he isn't putting much behind the right hand because he's avoiding the momentum that will leave him open for the counter. Instead, it looks like a shortened right hand immediately followed by the defensive position underneath the chin.

    In the top picture Sanchez sold out on the huge right hand..... and kudos to Forbes for having the ability to lean away from it while maintaining his feet in position to deliver the classic counter.

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    Default Re: Erickson Lubin v Terrell Gausha on Showtime

    i think if you have enough time to get hit with that counter, you have enough time to catch it in your right glove.

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    Default Re: Erickson Lubin v Terrell Gausha on Showtime

    Sanchez hadn't even finished his right hand swing, when Forbes' counter uppercut was on its way back to him.

    But ok... we'll agree to disagree in that you feel Sanchez had time to "catch it with his right glove."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Sanchez hadn't even finished his right hand swing, when Forbes' counter uppercut was on its way back to him.

    But ok... we'll agree to disagree in that you feel Sanchez had time to "catch it with his right glove."
    since the counter and catch both occur after the shoulder roll, your cue would be when you feel him shoulder roll, not after you finish throwing your right hand. in other words, when you feel him shoulder roll you have as much time to catch it as he has to throw it.

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    Default Re: Erickson Lubin v Terrell Gausha on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Sanchez hadn't even finished his right hand swing, when Forbes' counter uppercut was on its way back to him.

    But ok... we'll agree to disagree in that you feel Sanchez had time to "catch it with his right glove."
    since the counter and catch both occur after the shoulder roll, your cue would be when you feel him shoulder roll, not after you finish throwing your right hand. in other words, when you feel him shoulder roll you have as much time to catch it as he has to throw it.

    I'll just give Forbes the credit he deserves by rolling away from the punch and beginning his own counter before the follow through from Sanchez had even concluded.

    In the old B&W you showed, that was a tentative right hand with no ill intent... stopped halfway through in order to protect his own chin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I'll just give Forbes the credit he deserves by rolling away from the punch and beginning his own counter before the follow through from Sanchez had even concluded.

    In the old B&W you showed, that was a tentative right hand with no ill intent... stopped halfway through in order to protect his own chin.
    i think marciano brings his forearm over his face because he knew he missed and also because he knew he was fighting archie moore.

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    Default Re: Erickson Lubin v Terrell Gausha on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ennis turning it up in 5th jarring Abreu and lands hard on the beltline, Abreu looks for a time out and ref says keep fighting. In turn Abreu hits Ennis in his Ennis Jr and both warned. Ennis walking in behind high shoulder guard and landing left hooks..and down he goes. Abreu flat and up at 8! Abreu not long for this. Beautiful inside right uppercut counter got the KD, very fluid
    thats how steve forbes knocked out julio sanchez leon.



    a while ago it used to be that, if you missed a right hand, you'd bring your right arm across your face, sort of like a face bar, so you could catch that counter in palm of your right glove.



    if you watch all the old fights you will see guys doing that often. i think it might have something to do with how fighters used to throw that counter more often. it is nice to see someone that can still do that today, even if no one else knows how to keep from getting hit by it today.
    fucking awesome example of Marciano getting his right arm in front of his face after missing, he missed so many fucking right hands, you KNOW he woulda been KOed if he didnt have that great defensive tactic.

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    Default Re: Erickson Lubin v Terrell Gausha on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    fucking awesome example of Marciano getting his right arm in front of his face after missing, he missed so many fucking right hands, you KNOW he woulda been KOed if he didnt have that great defensive tactic.
    i like rocky marciano too.

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