Why would Biden want to be POTUS anyway??

[El Kabong]

Why didn't Trump condemn the Proud Boys?

What is there to condemn?

Perfect storm for complete societal collapse.

Race war, civil war, martial law, world war.

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Then why won't you leave? Can't take your food stamps with you?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Why didn't Trump condemn the Proud Boys?

What is there to condemn?

Perfect storm for complete societal collapse.

Race war, civil war, martial law, world war.

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Then why won't you leave? Can't take your food stamps with you?

Very presumptuous of you. Not on food stamps and never was and don't think I will ever need to be hopefully. I haven't said anything to you since you've started posting again, but here you go now at me with the food stamps.

Just shows who on the personal level at least, always starts to stir the s*** first.

However I will not return any comments on that personal level.

[TitoFan]

I keep reading that Trump won the debate.

Well... I guess it all boils down to the definition of "won."

If by "won" you mean.......

• Bullying a lot better than the other guy
• Blatantly ignoring the rules of the debate
• Lying through your teeth on every single goddamn issue
• Refusing to unite... but rather continue to divide
• In general acting like the low-life human being he's always proven himself to be

Then yeah......... I guess he "won" the debate.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Tito, you have precisely crystallized the problem in American politics and society at Large. A "win" isn't really a win anymore.

Nothing really is what it used to be anymore.

It's all just a cheap facsimile, a copy of a copy of a copy, of what used to be reality.

[TitoFan]

So you still think Trump won?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

So you still think Trump won?

Mehhh, well,..... I guess we have to try to pick a winner, I mean "winner"......

I agree with you that it is a piss-poor analogy to compare the debate to a boxing match.....

But I went ahead sarcastically and scored it like a fight as this is a boxing form and I thought it would be cool to view it through that lens.....

I had it 117-112, but I deducted two points from Trump for repeated fouls after being warned incessantly.

I guess I'd score it about 115-112...

I mean there were a few times the ref was close to disqualifying Trump, and probably should have in a way.... But as he is the president I can't imagine the optics of Chris Wallace cutting off Trump's microphone or saying please leave the stage you are disqualified.

The only reason I give the edge to Trump and that debate was because he did not stutter like Biden did on several occasions. Biden also looks down too much at his hands, while Trump is quite vigorous and animated, so I guess just on appearances is really.

like I said it's hard to call it a winner in the traditional sense of what a winner is. But if we absolutely have to call a winner, then based off that flimsy difference, I have to say that Biden made himself look a little bit worse than Trump made himself look.

Said but I guess that's the criteria.

[TitoFan]

I like the meme making the rounds on Facebook about Samuel L. Jackson being the next debate moderator.

[Master]

[QUOTE=El Kabong;1561429]

Why didn't Trump condemn the Proud Boys?

What is there to condemn?

There must be something otherwise he would not have been asked.

[TitoFan]

Joe Biden needs to state his positions CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY.

The time to pit Dem against Dem was back when they were choosing a candidate. The extreme left LOST... and along with it the ideas of free Medicare for every single American, the defunding of the police, etc, etc.

Now it's time to pit Biden against Trump.

Biden, the moderate Democrat with more centrist views (WHICH HE HAS MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT CLEAR ENOUGH)... against a bullying, "backed-in-a-corner" alley cat Trump who will pull out all the stops to remain in the WH.

By "all the stops" I mean bully his way through debates... rally his supporters to disrupt the election process and create havoc (again... visions of that Nobel Peace Prize presentation invade my mind)... blatantly LIE about the COVID fiasco much of it his own doing... etc, etc, etc.

I wish instead of Biden it were a more youthful, energetic candidate. Think Buttigieg WITHOUT the obvious baggage that would at this time make him a liability.

But Biden it is.

Trump supporters will rip open any and all blunders, gaffes, stutters, and the like... in order to bring him down and get Trump re-elected.



Maybe Trump SHOULD win.

Bring the whole fabric of society and democracy crashing down around everyone's ears.

At least that way Biden won't be blamed.


Again..... Why would Biden want to be POTUS anyway??

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Trump will win. Barring any catastrophic developments between now and election day

Cannot see Biden winning anything

[El Kabong]

There must be something otherwise he would not have been asked.

When you come to the realization that you don't always have to accept the premise of the mainstream media THEN my friend and ONLY THEN can you start to understand what they are trying to pull on you.


I used to implicitly trust the news, I mean why would they lie to you? Right? What could they gain by lying to you? If you trust them and trust them completely why you won't even have to think for yourself or judge for yourself you could just take their word for it..... right?


Now you don't have to trust someone like Alex Jones either, but if you looked at the "news" the way people look at Alex Jones what would it hurt? What would it hurt if you were dubious of the news? What would it hurt if you merely questioned the premise every once in a while?


THINK FOR YOURSELF




White Supremacists? Demanding that a black woman has a space to preach? That add up to you man? Doesn't add up to me

[TitoFan]

Let's call a spade a spade, shall we?

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes has been quoted on numerous occasions throughout the years with controversial remarks on violence, race, anti-Semitism, anti-Muslim, sexism, and more. He's obviously not a choir boy and no one should mistake his group as the Boy Scouts of America. While McInnes himself may not be totally responsible for the violence attributed to Proud Boys, specific racist assholes like Jason Kessler have taken the opportunity to spread the hate and violence while calling himself a Proud Boys member.

At the same time I've seen interviews with Proud Boys members and honestly feel that not everyone associated with that group is a racist White Supremacist. McInnes himself apparently tried to distance himself and the group from other extremist, violent hate groups... but IMO it's a case of too little too late. Once the perception is there, it's tough to get rid of it.

On the other hand, nobody is mistaking Antifa for a bunch of Boy Scouts either. In fact, Antifa is being investigated by the FBI because is always the case... it's an example of a well-intentioned organization gone rogue. The idea of "anti-fascism" may be noble... but as always it falls into the hands of violent thugs who decide to take matters into their own hands.

Now let's talk about something else.

Let's think about this for a minute. Why oh why the continued insistence on having Trump utter the words "I condemn White Supremacy."??!??

Does ANYONE in their right minds think this would make one iota of difference??

Whether Trump says it out loud or not..... it doesn't matter. He doesn't feel that way!!!

I know... tough one to digest.

News flash for the whole wide world: TRUMP MAY SAY THE WORDS (he won't), BUT IN HIS MIND HE NEVER WILL.

So why go through the childish and pointless exercise of coercing him to say the words??

Next I'd expect people to ask him to cross his heart and hope to die.

The guy's a fukking racist, no matter HOW MANY photo ops he takes with black leaders or how many times he hugs Kanye West or poses for pictures with Jim Brown.

People who are influenced by that sort of superficial bullshit just don't see the big picture.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Let's call a spade a spade, shall we?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

the "reason" they want to hear lip service from Trump is precisely because of what I mentioned earlier: we are living in such SHALLOW TIMES, that even lip service has become satisfying enough in many people's minds, over sincerity. For past 20 years we have increasingly become a GOTCHA! culture where cute one-liners have replaced facts.

[El Kabong]

Let's think about this for a minute. Why oh why the continued insistence on having Trump utter the words "I condemn White Supremacy."??!??

Does ANYONE in their right minds think this would make one iota of difference??

Whether Trump says it out loud or not..... it doesn't matter. He doesn't feel that way!!!

I know... tough one to digest.

Allow me to allow Nancy Pelosi to explain WHY this is happening @TitoFan ......





There it is...it's a tactic to smear Donald Trump by CONSTANTLY asking him. The answer has never changed from Trump. He's racist? Insanity. I mean feel how you like, but that is absolute insanity to me and once you are locked in on "he's racist" you're beyond coming back from that. You've crossed the Rubicon as it were in terms of judging the man.