Teofimo vs Loma: ... Who ya got?

[TonnnnUK]

Well done to Lopez. I scored it 116-112

[powerpuncher]

Well done to Lopez. I scored it 116-112

Almost exactly how I scored it except I gave the 9th to Lopez. I will have to watch round 2 again but I think the one combination made people give it to Loma even though Lopez seemed to easily win that round.

[TonnnnUK]

Well done to Lopez. I scored it 116-112

Almost exactly how I scored it except I gave the 9th to Lopez. I will have to watch round 2 again but I think the one combination made people give it to Loma even though Lopez seemed to easily win that round.

Yeah those eye catching flurries could sway a round to one fighter when the other has been a bit more busy but not landed anything quite as significant. They are the swing rounds and could go either way. It's all matter of preference and opinion.

[ruthless rocco]

Well done to Lopez. I scored it 116-112

Almost exactly how I scored it except I gave the 9th to Lopez. I will have to watch round 2 again but I think the one combination made people give it to Loma even though Lopez seemed to easily win that round.

I also had it 117 - 111. Round 2 was clearly a Lopez round. Round 9 while closer, was also a Lopez round in my opinion.

[Dia bando]

Funny enough we talk about greatness both fighters one fighter 15 fights the other 16 fights good fighters yes but great let's think about it chap.!

[Beanz]

No excuses. Despite Lomanchenko taking an age to start after that long break out of the ring, Lopez absolutely earned that decision. He looked calm and in control and i serioulsy underestimated his ability to fight to a game plan. Some sublime stuff from him, and without a doubt his abilty to really dig made Loma second guess from the start. He nullified many of the advantages Loma ususally engineers by keeping up his own rhythm and dictating where he would fight so that Lomas fabled footwork just never got a chance to make inroads and nuge Lopez off balance. Final third Loma started to get some sucess, but way too little and too late. That said at least one of the cards was little wide.

[Spicoli]

Well done to Lopez. I scored it 116-112

Almost exactly how I scored it except I gave the 9th to Lopez. I will have to watch round 2 again but I think the one combination made people give it to Loma even though Lopez seemed to easily win that round.

What a quality night of fights.

Also exact same score. Gave Lopez 1-7, 9 and 12th. Loma 8 and strongest rounds 10 and 11. It's amazing what an overnight of analysis and set in does. I woke up to more than a few 'could have gone either way' and the stand by challenger MUST beat a champion. I just cannot see case for draw in any scenario but plan to re watch simply because it was a superb showdown. Fans win.

[Memphis]

High quality contest, shame it was in a bubble. Great job by Lopez, good jab, good early body attack. Loma did nothing for the first half and it cost him. Great finish by Lopez. It's a simple argument to say Loma starts earlier and gives himself a better chance of winning the fight. But those reasons why he was so slow to get going aren't going away. The speed, size, power, youth of Lopez all played a part, it wasn't just Loma starting slow as is the norm. Baring a stoppage all Lopez had to do was give it everything for one round in the second half to win the fight.

Crazy fight between two 15 fight pros where one was considered the grand master and the other the young pup who might find himself a bit out of his depth. Now of course that Loma has TWO!!! loses he's on the slide and was never any good. Obviously that's the opinion of the social media lunatic experts. Not the experts here

[TitoFan]

High quality contest, shame it was in a bubble. Great job by Lopez, good jab, good early body attack. Loma did nothing for the first half and it cost him. Great finish by Lopez. It's a simple argument to say Loma starts earlier and gives himself a better chance of winning the fight. But those reasons why he was so slow to get going aren't going away. The speed, size, power, youth of Lopez all played a part, it wasn't just Loma starting slow as is the norm. Baring a stoppage all Lopez had to do was give it everything for one round in the second half to win the fight.

Crazy fight between two 15 fight pros where one was considered the grand master and the other the young pup who might find himself a bit out of his depth. Now of course that Loma has TWO!!! loses he's on the slide and was never any good. Obviously that's the opinion of the social media lunatic experts. Not the experts here

I think the consensus here is that number one, Loma made a tactical mistake by waiting till the second half of the fight... and two, Lopez is a better, more capable boxer than some here were giving him credit for.

Loma himself I'm sure now feels he may have underestimated Lopez from the outset, maybe thinking about Teo's comparative lack of experience.

Regardless, it was a fight truly deserving of a rematch, if that's what each of them wants.

[Master]

Bob Arum doesn't want to see a judge again after her Teofimo Lopez scorecard, and fans agreed

Teofimo Lopez is the undisputed lightweight champion after stunning Vasiliy Lomachenko on Saturday, but one scorecard for his win prompted disbelief for many observers, including Top Rank CEO Bob Arum.

The fight was officially scored 116-112 by Tim Cheatham, 117-111 by Steve Weisfield and 119-109 by Julie Lederman. It was the last scorecard that drew questions.

There was little doubt that Lopez deserved the win, but the consensus was that Lomachenko showed enough life in the second half of the fight to keep things competitive going into the 12th round. Lopez finished strongly for the win, but it’s hard to believe that he won 11 out of 12 rounds, as Lederman saw things.

The good news is that, if anything, Lederman erred toward the victor. That wasn’t enough for Arum, though, as he said after the fight that he would advise fighters to request Lederman not be appointed for their fights:



The vast majority of boxing fans, journalists and one welterweight champion seemed to agree with Arum’s assessment.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/bob-arum...051749340.html

[powerpuncher]

I don’t get why people are so up in arms about the one scorecard. That scorecard is at least plausible. I’ve seen so many worse. Loma only clearly won the 11th which is the round that the judge gave to him. Almost every major boxing card has at least one scorecard worse than that one.

[TitoFan]

Well done to Lopez. I scored it 116-112

I remember scoring each and every round the same way. First 7 to Teo... next 4 to Loma... and final one to Teo.

[TonnnnUK]

Well done to Lopez. I scored it 116-112

I remember scoring each and every round the same way. First 7 to Teo... next 4 to Loma... and final one to Teo.

That seems to be the general consensus amongst people using this scorecard system, though the turning point 7th round is even.

Here is the combined scorecard for over 20 users' scorecards.



And the round by round statistical analysis:
https://fight-score.com/fight/vasyl-...lopez/analysis


Full disclosure: This project is something I created. Think the added metrics make for more in depth scorecards and allows for some interesting round by round data analysis.

[Denilson3.0]

Yes !!! BROOKLYN was reppin’ HARD tonight ! Loma went out like a sucka mc! No more Floyd comparisons EVER ! You hear me ? I got tired of hearing "We've never seen anything like this!" Very disrespectful to Pernell, Roy, and Floyd.

Is the great Lomachenko just another Roman Gonzalez ?

Man - Teofimo Lopez is twitchy ! Crazy sharp reflexes. Loma simply ran into a guy that was able to control a distance better than anybody he ever faced and the accuracy and power made him second-guess himself.

This is high level boxing Loma, you don’t just get to use angles and throw punches you want without high level work coming back at you. He realised that early in the fight and was a bit lost. If he would have been too brazen, he would have been looking up at the stars.

Loma has been been getting hit too much lately. His defense is pulling back, spinning to the right. He doesn't slip an counter a lot. One thing I didn't see Loma do in this fight was pitty pat jabs. He truly was terrified of Lopez.

In round 12, Lopez started fking him up when Loma tried to put it on him. That’s what would’ve happened early in the fight if he tried to do that, and that’s why he fought so negatively.

Lopez clearly beat the odds but it's not like the performance was something stellar. He basically won by being the bigger man and not committing to the OBVIOUS mistakes everyone expected him to fall victim to. That's not hating him, that's just a healthy perspective. Lopez is like a better version of Wilder. He still has a lot more to improve especially fighting off his backfoot

I think Haney would be a problem for Teo. He seems to have trouble with longer guys that have skills and word is he couldn't even touch Haney in sparring.

I didn't score the fight but my gut instinct at the end was a very close fight, edging to Lopez. The Julia Lederman scorecard was super dumb but the others were fine and the right man won.

These female judges (Lederman and Byrd) should like go live out the rest of their days in an idyllic seaside cottage and sip hot herbal teas and be ricotta cheese power lesbians and never again score another pro fight between them, that'd be cute imo

But Teo put respect on his name tonight. He boxed the master boxer but also showed ring maturity.

I’m about to hit Lopez Sr for some psychic advice.

[mrbig1]

Loma might want to move back to 130.