Lomachenko

[imp]

Floyd is on different level from Loma.
Pac is on a different level from Loma.

Yes, but then Floyd had 17 fights before his first title fight. Apples and Oranges really.

Beanz,

We are not going to compare Lomachenko to Floyd are we?

An old past it, 36 year old Floyd Mayweather beat a young champion in Canelo with ease!

You need to concede that your boy Lomachenko was beaten in his PRIME!

How did you score the fight?

[Beanz]

Floyd is on different level from Loma.
Pac is on a different level from Loma.

Yes, but then Floyd had 17 fights before his first title fight. Apples and Oranges really.

Beanz,

We are not going to compare Lomachenko to Floyd are we?

An old past it, 36 year old Floyd Mayweather beat a young champion in Canelo with ease!

You need to concede that your boy Lomachenko was beaten in his PRIME!

How did you score the fight?

Well i wasn't going to compare them but you seem keen to

He is not 'my boy' and he is still a great fighter. It is OK for great fighters to get beat. Floyd was a very different beast. I get the defensive skill of both is a standout marker but the way they go about it is very different.

However much of a dick he is as a person i am not about to hate on the ability of Floyd, as he truly was outstanding, and on many occasions a true artist to watch. His movement and reflexes were sublime and we are unlikely to see them

bettered anytime soon.

[imp]

Floyd is on different level from Loma.
Pac is on a different level from Loma.

Yes, but then Floyd had 17 fights before his first title fight. Apples and Oranges really.

Beanz,

We are not going to compare Lomachenko to Floyd are we?

An old past it, 36 year old Floyd Mayweather beat a young champion in Canelo with ease!

You need to concede that your boy Lomachenko was beaten in his PRIME!

How did you score the fight?

Well i wasn't going to compare them but you seem keen to

He is not 'my boy' and he is still a great fighter. It is OK for great fighters to get beat. Floyd was a very different beast. I get the defensive skill of both is a standout marker but the way they go about it is very different.

However much of a dick he is as a person i am not about to hate on the ability of Floyd, as he truly was outstanding, and on many occasions a true artist to watch. His movement and reflexes were sublime and we are unlikely to see them

bettered anytime soon.

What did you score the fight?

[Master]

Imp brings Floyd into almost every conversation because he is trying too hard for him to be considered an ATG.

[Ron Swanson]

OP asks about excuses, Loma had shoulder surgery.

Since people are taking unnecessary shots at every African American fighter around the weight class. Who thinks Loma, who already ducked Haney, beats Haney who has 2.5 more inches of reach than Lopez and faster feet?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Loma took hard body shots and poker-faced it all night. He was hurt several times. I think he left something of himself in the ring that night, and will only be 90% of himself from now on. I think Haney wins it handily.

[powerpuncher]

OP asks about excuses, Loma had shoulder surgery.

Since people are taking unnecessary shots at every African American fighter around the weight class. Who thinks Loma, who already ducked Haney, beats Haney who has 2.5 more inches of reach than Lopez and faster feet?

I would still favor Loma over Haney the same reason I favored Loma over Lopez. Loma has proven to be an elite fighter. The difference was that Lopez at least proved that he was a top fighter by beating Commey. Haney hasn’t proven that yet.

Could Haney win? Absolutely, but I would still favor Loma

[imp]

OP asks about excuses, Loma had shoulder surgery.

Since people are taking unnecessary shots at every African American fighter around the weight class. Who thinks Loma, who already ducked Haney, beats Haney who has 2.5 more inches of reach than Lopez and faster feet?

Same doctor as Pac?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Loma was outfought, and will never be the same. Also Lopez just had his number

[Beanz]

OP asks about excuses, Loma had shoulder surgery.

Since people are taking unnecessary shots at every African American fighter around the weight class. Who thinks Loma, who already ducked Haney, beats Haney who has 2.5 more inches of reach than Lopez and faster feet?

I think as a self confessed SJW softy lefty libtard or whatever people call it, then I have be been a bit guilty of assuming most racism comes from the white majority against a black minority. While I still think that is the case, it is surprisingly, not so endemic in boxing, for many reasons.

You though seem so sure of it being present in others that you seem to have rather unwittingly revealed your own hand. I hope I am wrong, but I have not sensed people's love of Loma having anything to do with him being white, and nor has anyone here attacked other fighters in the same weight class based on the colour of their skin.

Exsmples?

Thought not.

[Primo Carnera]

OP asks about excuses, Loma had shoulder surgery.

Since people are taking unnecessary shots at every African American fighter around the weight class. Who thinks Loma, who already ducked Haney, beats Haney who has 2.5 more inches of reach than Lopez and faster feet?

I think as a self confessed SJW softy lefty libtard or whatever people call it, then I have be been a bit guilty of assuming most racism comes from the white majority against a black minority. While I still think that is the case, it is surprisingly, not so endemic in boxing, for many reasons.

You though seem so sure of it being present in others that you seem to have rather unwittingly revealed your own hand. I hope I am wrong, but I have not sensed people's love of Loma having anything to do with him being white, and nor has anyone here attacked other fighters in the same weight class based on the colour of their skin.

Exsmples?

Thought not.

I’ve gotta be fair , I don’t think Ronnie Baby is a racist as in a Black / White thing. But I do think he has issues with Russian fighters especially.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s also been very disparaging about British fighters as well , Black and white if memory serves me right.
Whether that’s racist or tubthumping or just plain American arrogance, well people can make their own minds up.

[imp]

Imp brings Floyd into almost every conversation because he is trying too hard for him to be considered an ATG.

Master,

I don’t need to defend Floyd.

He beat all your idols and you’re bitter.

Floyd started at 126 and was the smaller man in the majority of his fights but his skills made the adjustments that Lomachenko was lacking.

Now Lomachenko has been schooled you need to find another hero to worship.
.

[Beanz]

Floyd is on different level from Loma.
Pac is on a different level from Loma.

Yes, but then Floyd had 17 fights before his first title fight. Apples and Oranges really.

Beanz,

We are not going to compare Lomachenko to Floyd are we?

An old past it, 36 year old Floyd Mayweather beat a young champion in Canelo with ease!

You need to concede that your boy Lomachenko was beaten in his PRIME!

How did you score the fight?

Well i wasn't going to compare them but you seem keen to

He is not 'my boy' and he is still a great fighter. It is OK for great fighters to get beat. Floyd was a very different beast. I get the defensive skill of both is a standout marker but the way they go about it is very different.

However much of a dick he is as a person i am not about to hate on the ability of Floyd, as he truly was outstanding, and on many occasions a true artist to watch. His movement and reflexes were sublime and we are unlikely to see them

bettered anytime soon.

What did you score the fight?

I don't usually score fights unless i am being paid to write a report on them afterwards, but I would have given 4 rounds to Loma, and could see a case for 5. Still, no argument about Lopez dominating from me.

[imp]

Floyd is on different level from Loma.
Pac is on a different level from Loma.

Yes, but then Floyd had 17 fights before his first title fight. Apples and Oranges really.

Beanz,

We are not going to compare Lomachenko to Floyd are we?

An old past it, 36 year old Floyd Mayweather beat a young champion in Canelo with ease!

You need to concede that your boy Lomachenko was beaten in his PRIME!

How did you score the fight?

Well i wasn't going to compare them but you seem keen to

He is not 'my boy' and he is still a great fighter. It is OK for great fighters to get beat. Floyd was a very different beast. I get the defensive skill of both is a standout marker but the way they go about it is very different.

However much of a dick he is as a person i am not about to hate on the ability of Floyd, as he truly was outstanding, and on many occasions a true artist to watch. His movement and reflexes were sublime and we are unlikely to see them

bettered anytime soon.

What did you score the fight?

I don't usually score fights unless i am being paid to write a report on them afterwards, but I would have given 4 rounds to Loma, and could see a case for 5. Still, no argument about Lopez dominating from me.

Agreed.