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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

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    This is way more than lazy parents not feeding their children.

    Social inequality and child poverty has increased and the majority of parents work (sometimes 2 or 3 jobs) but still can not earn enough. The need for food banks have increased over the years. Covid 19 has made the situation worse with many unemployed. These children should be a priority in getting food over these difficult and exceptional times.
    I don’t know who said Lazy parents. I said shit parents. I challenge anyone , especially Beanie baby to give me an example of faimilies in Poverty.
    And then , let’s see if within this unit, anyone has access to any of the following:
    A telly
    A mobile phone
    A tablet or computer
    Booze
    Drugs
    Getting tea from the chippy.
    Cigarettes

    Because my point is, if they do, then if the government feeds their kids, they’ll carry on with any of the above.
    What’s the saying about giving someone a fish and you’ll feed them a meal, but give them a fishing rod and you’ll feed them for life.
    @Beanz , you accuse me of tagging my “gang” in, I do not have a gang. But now I’ve tagged you in, are you in my gang as well now?

    Oh look. Avoiding responsibility again. You were advocating forced abortions and now you are worried about the difference between 'lazy' and 'shit'.

    Again cynical bullshit.

    You want to pretend that teaching bad parents a lesson is more important than feeding hungry kids, because that is what you are advocating as you walk yourself backwards up a spiral staircase like a donkey led by blue donkey's.

    Idiot.
    Oh look @Beanz putting his own spin on what I said. Not avoiding responsibility , just stating what I ACTUALLY wrote. There is a difference, but you’re never gonna see that because you don’t want to.
    Teaching bad parents a lesson isn’t more important than feeding hungry kids, it’s not a fucking choice you naive dickhead.
    Sort out shit parents and there will not be hungry kids. And for the very very few if any that are in poverty through no bad choices they have made, then of course help them.
    So why don’t you avoid actually coming up with some answers and dredge up some weird analogy about spiral staircases?
    Or, you could “be a man” and actually tell me you know people in poverty without access to the things I stated previously?
    Go on, try staying on track with the thread and come up with some answers. I’ll wait.
    (Well,,when I say I’ll wait , I mean I’ll have a look in the morning cos I’m going to bed now!!)

    I don't owe you anything when you post like a nasty spoiled child. I don't need to put any spin on what you said anyone can go back and read it. You got on your self righteous soapbox and tried to pretend that poverty was not really an issue and that were more parents wasting money on crack than actually being poor and that you could solve it by a program of forced abortions.

    You sound mental and naive and out of touch with reality. You sure you are not Gandalf?


    This a thread i started about Johnson being unfit for office, and this is another example proving how, just like you and arrogant pals, he can never admit when he gets things wrong. I am not the one going off track. You are just like him throwing out soundbites without thinking about them.

    Your simplistic idea that anyone who owns a mobile phone, a television or has ever bought a meal from a chippy does not deserve help with feeding their kids is beyond pathetic. Your assertion that that constitutes an abuse of the system and builds dependency is Victorian workhouse bullshit. You sound like Jacob Rees-Mogg for fuck's sake.

    I am more than aware of plenty of people who have had to use the school meal voucher system who are not the scrounging irresponsible feckless bastards you would rather blame than stand up to a Tory tax dodger. Usually it is women who end up bearing the brunt of people like you's ire. The selfish idiot father of their kids fucks off, just like Boris who abandoned the mother of his kids while she was fighting cancer, and yet nothing is ever laid at their feet.

    Just avoiding responsibility again. The very thing you are blaming other people for.
    No, he is not Gandalf, but he is pretty astute in his observation of bad parents. I had free school meals. Why? Because my father was a playboy who spent his money on women and booze. When he left my mother refused to ever lift a finger and get a job.

    Who avoided responsibility? It was the parents. They made very bad decisions.

    You know exactly how it works. People choose shit partners and then get knocked up and avoid taking ownership of the mess they have made.
    Beanz has already said it is mostly women that end up with dealing with the issues of providing for their children so have no other choice than to take ownership of the problem. What is worse is when the children end up in care but that may end up to be good for them. Looked after children are the most vulnerable and life chances for them can be much harder. They are more likely to end up unemployed, homeless and in the criminal justice system.
    He doesn't care. He just wants to make sure that the safety net that was provided for him is never offered to children now. It is an example of Privilege pretending to be responsible whilst avoiding any hint of acting like an adult. He is not even posting as himself and yet wants to be afforded a special exception even here on an international forum.
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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    I do not want to hurt any child. I want to teach these parental wrecks a lesson. They need to learn the hard way. No excuses.

    I decided not to have children for a reason similar to Robert Smith. It is a position of empathy to suggest people not hurt a child.

    Stop fighting and get married. Walrus and Lyle are decent people. Very decent people. Sort it out. It will do you good. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandmiles View Post
    I do not want to hurt any child. I want to teach these parental wrecks a lesson. They need to learn the hard way. No excuses.

    I decided not to have children for a reason similar to Robert Smith. It is a position of empathy to suggest people not hurt a child.

    Stop fighting and get married. Walrus and Lyle are decent people. Very decent people. Sort it out. It will do you good. Good luck.

    The majority of people receiving free school meals vouchers for their children are not parental wrecks at all. That you can be so judgemental of people you know nothing about, and yet give two self aggrandizing posturing gonads a free pass for anything, says it all.
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    Do you know most of those parents? Have you checked why they have no money? You attacked Primo, but in my case he was right. Two people totally unsuited. Result: chaos. They did not need to live as they did and chose. The booze, the fags, the refusal to work. Seen it all.

    How many others here had lunch vouchers? Probably a few. Wouldn't need them with a hard working Dad and a Mum willing to chip in. Not enough cash. Quit smoking? Never.

    Why am I not broke or hurting kids? Choices. I know good parents. None are needing free meals or handouts.

    You need a loving Mum and Dad or just do not bother. Makes the world a better place.

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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandmiles View Post
    Do you know most of those parents? Have you checked why they have no money? You attacked Primo, but in my case he was right. Two people totally unsuited. Result: chaos. They did not need to live as they did and chose. The booze, the fags, the refusal to work. Seen it all.

    How many others here had lunch vouchers? Probably a few. Wouldn't need them with a hard working Dad and a Mum willing to chip in. Not enough cash. Quit smoking? Never.

    Why am I not broke or hurting kids? Choices. I know good parents. None are needing free meals or handouts.

    You need a loving Mum and Dad or just do not bother. Makes the world a better place.

    You have not seen it all at all. You have learned nothing really, listen to yourself. Here you are accusing me of attacking someone for pointing out how barbaric and horrific his suggestion of enforcing abortions on women and then locking

    them up for manslaughter was.

    Are you really defending that and yet again trying to paint me as some kind of bogeyman?

    You are not the special case you claim to be at all. Stop judging others by your own greedy selfish spiteful standards. I am hardly an outlier on this the vast majority of the British public are disgusted by the nasty regime you urged others to usher in.
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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandmiles View Post
    Do you know most of those parents? Have you checked why they have no money? You attacked Primo, but in my case he was right. Two people totally unsuited. Result: chaos. They did not need to live as they did and chose. The booze, the fags, the refusal to work. Seen it all.

    How many others here had lunch vouchers? Probably a few. Wouldn't need them with a hard working Dad and a Mum willing to chip in. Not enough cash. Quit smoking? Never.

    Why am I not broke or hurting kids? Choices. I know good parents. None are needing free meals or handouts.

    You need a loving Mum and Dad or just do not bother. Makes the world a better place.
    But the thing is you have LIVED IT , you have experience of this situation, so clearly @Beanz isn’t going to listen to you because obviously from his ivory tower , the hypocritical twat knows better than you! Some clowns around, fair play.
    And don’t hold your breath for an answer to the question in the first sentence of your post.
    I can see beaners answers now, “I owe you nothing “ “why should I answer your question” “who do you think you are!” “I am NOT ANGRY , I’M CHILLED!” Fucking hell!!
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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Do you know most of those parents? Have you checked why they have no money? You attacked Primo, but in my case he was right. Two people totally unsuited. Result: chaos. They did not need to live as they did and chose. The booze, the fags, the refusal to work. Seen it all.

    How many others here had lunch vouchers? Probably a few. Wouldn't need them with a hard working Dad and a Mum willing to chip in. Not enough cash. Quit smoking? Never.

    Why am I not broke or hurting kids? Choices. I know good parents. None are needing free meals or handouts.

    You need a loving Mum and Dad or just do not bother. Makes the world a better place.
    But the thing is you have LIVED IT , you have experience of this situation, so clearly @Beanz isn’t going to listen to you because obviously from his ivory tower , the hypocritical twat knows better than you! Some clowns around, fair play.
    And don’t hold your breath for an answer to the question in the first sentence of your post.
    I can see beaners answers now, “I owe you nothing “ “why should I answer your question” “who do you think you are!” “I am NOT ANGRY , I’M CHILLED!” Fucking hell!!

    My Dad left when i was four. Four years old. So growing up with my siblings and a single mother on a council estate is hardly living in an Ivory Tower. We had free school meals. So don't be a condescending prick , it is not a good look. Master pointed you toward the evidence because he has worked heading up a charity working with single mothers in need and you laughed in his face. You ignored the facts because they didn't fit you preconceived ideas, so don't pretend to be interested in evidence.


    What do you want me to do go and interview every family that are entitled to free school meals?

    My grandchildren are entitled to free school meals do want to join with Gandalf in slagging off their mother despite having no idea of her circumstances?

    It is mental how cold and bloody minded many fellas on here are when talking about feeding hungry kids, when they have been SILENT about the BILLIONS wasted and given to friends etc by the crooks in Government.

    What are you trying to prove? That you are somehow better than people who may have lost their jobs or have been abandoned by their partners or who work several jobs but still can't make ends meet?



    You should be fucking angry you weak little men. Not with some single mother, feckless or not, but with the bastards who left them in that situation and the criminals at the top who just spaffed billions on a system not fit for purpose.
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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandmiles View Post
    Do you know most of those parents? Have you checked why they have no money? You attacked Primo, but in my case he was right. Two people totally unsuited. Result: chaos. They did not need to live as they did and chose. The booze, the fags, the refusal to work. Seen it all.

    How many others here had lunch vouchers? Probably a few. Wouldn't need them with a hard working Dad and a Mum willing to chip in. Not enough cash. Quit smoking? Never.

    Why am I not broke or hurting kids? Choices. I know good parents. None are needing free meals or handouts.

    You need a loving Mum and Dad or just do not bother. Makes the world a better place.
    But the thing is you have LIVED IT , you have experience of this situation, so clearly @Beanz isn’t going to listen to you because obviously from his ivory tower , the hypocritical twat knows better than you! Some clowns around, fair play.
    And don’t hold your breath for an answer to the question in the first sentence of your post.
    I can see beaners answers now, “I owe you nothing “ “why should I answer your question” “who do you think you are!” “I am NOT ANGRY , I’M CHILLED!” Fucking hell!!
    There are a MYRIAD of reasons why people are poor or make bad choices, a MYRIAD, and its not so simple as it all comes down to laziness or low IQ. Its far more complex than that. If we oversimplify it just to laziness, we are totally eliminating the emotional/psychiatric realities of millions upon millions of people who have suffered irreversible trauma thru a myriad of ways. If they then make poor choices about pregnancy or whatever, surely it is not chalked up to mere laziness.
    IN the US alone there are millions of mentally ill -- tens of thousands of them wandering the streets, with various degrees of severity, and yes they have gotten pregnant. And that doesnt include the ones who arent just wandering the streets, imagine all the millions more who maybe are not transient or homeless, but still largely dysfucntional in society and living in low income housing for example. It is a nightmare of a situation, a gigantic problem, and it leads to the intergenerational passing on of abuse and trauma and neglect. Sure there are TONS of low IQ and lazy people, nobody disputes that.

    But to just chalk it all up to selfish, lazy decision making is truly oversimplifying a tremendously diverse and complex problem in society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandmiles View Post
    I do not want to hurt any child. I want to teach these parental wrecks a lesson. They need to learn the hard way. No excuses.

    I decided not to have children for a reason similar to Robert Smith. It is a position of empathy to suggest people not hurt a child.

    Stop fighting and get married. Walrus and Lyle are decent people. Very decent people. Sort it out. It will do you good. Good luck.

    The majority of people receiving free school meals vouchers for their children are not parental wrecks at all. That you can be so judgemental of people you know nothing about, and yet give two self aggrandizing posturing gonads a free pass for anything, says it all.
    Free pass? You simply cannot help yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandmiles View Post
    I do not want to hurt any child. I want to teach these parental wrecks a lesson. They need to learn the hard way. No excuses.

    I decided not to have children for a reason similar to Robert Smith. It is a position of empathy to suggest people not hurt a child.

    Stop fighting and get married. Walrus and Lyle are decent people. Very decent people. Sort it out. It will do you good. Good luck.

    The majority of people receiving free school meals vouchers for their children are not parental wrecks at all. That you can be so judgemental of people you know nothing about, and yet give two self aggrandizing posturing gonads a free pass for anything, says it all.
    Free pass? You simply cannot help yourself.
    ON a purely linguistic note, "two.....gonads" may or may NOT refer to 2 people... it may mean Gandmiles' 2 testicles. Seriously, on a linguistic note, this may be in need of clarification.

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