Canelo now a free agent

[Kirkland Laing]

I wonder what Golovkin has to be thinking right now and did Dazn look at this as a three-piece all along.

Loads of known unknowns here. I think there'll be a clause in his contract saying that if he doesn't get the big payday with Alvarez he can walk. But will he want to in the current climate. He's not getting any younger. His contract money won't be guaranteed. How keen are DAZN to keep hold of him now that Alvarez has walked and what kind of escape clause do they have from the contract. Are they as big on boxing as they were when they signed those two.

Be very interesting to see the aftermath. I respect the hell out of Golovkin but have always though he just sort of followed along with DAZN. I read that Andrades 'fight' with his welterweight fell through. Maybe Golovkin can give him the massive fight he believes he deserves. Then again being a free agent, can't Canelo opt for a one-done deal with Oscar and company or has that bridge completely gone up like the one over the River Kwai.

The number the media got for Golovkin's deal was north of a hundred million which was more than he'd made in his career even including the two Alvarez fights and was given to him at a point in his career when he's on the final stretch. They definitely overpaid significantly due to them having big designs on the boxing business.

I don't think that money was ever guaranteed. If the Alvarez contract wasn't, and it obviously wasn't because he'd never walk away from three hundred plus million guaranteed, then Golovkin's wasn't. So his future dpends a lot I think on just how invested DAZN still are in the boxing business and how Alvarez buggering off affects how they see Golovkin's commercial worth to them.

I'm sure if Alvarez offered Fishnets a deal that looked decent they'd snap his hand off. Without Alvarez Golden Boy are just a second tier promotional outfit on the west coast. Alvarez kept them in the big leagues after all their original stars retired and none of their prospects became PPV level. Maybe I'm forgetting somebody they have who is making money but now they're pretty much the west coast version of Main Events.

[powerpuncher]

I wonder what Golovkin has to be thinking right now and did Dazn look at this as a three-piece all along.

Loads of known unknowns here. I think there'll be a clause in his contract saying that if he doesn't get the big payday with Alvarez he can walk. But will he want to in the current climate. He's not getting any younger. His contract money won't be guaranteed. How keen are DAZN to keep hold of him now that Alvarez has walked and what kind of escape clause do they have from the contract. Are they as big on boxing as they were when they signed those two.

Be very interesting to see the aftermath. I respect the hell out of Golovkin but have always though he just sort of followed along with DAZN. I read that Andrades 'fight' with his welterweight fell through. Maybe Golovkin can give him the massive fight he believes he deserves. Then again being a free agent, can't Canelo opt for a one-done deal with Oscar and company or has that bridge completely gone up like the one over the River Kwai.

The number the media got for Golovkin's deal was north of a hundred million which was more than he'd made in his career even including the two Alvarez fights and was given to him at a point in his career when he's on the final stretch. They definitely overpaid significantly due to them having big designs on the boxing business.

I don't think that money was ever guaranteed. If the Alvarez contract wasn't, and it obviously wasn't because he'd never walk away from three hundred plus million guaranteed, then Golovkin's wasn't. So his future dpends a lot I think on just how invested DAZN still are in the boxing business and how Alvarez buggering off affects how they see Golovkin's commercial worth to them.

I'm sure if Alvarez offered Fishnets a deal that looked decent they'd snap his hand off. Without Alvarez Golden Boy are just a second tier promotional outfit on the west coast. Alvarez kept them in the big leagues after all their original stars retired and none of their prospects became PPV level. Maybe I'm forgetting somebody they have who is making money but now they're pretty much the west coast version of Main Events.

Golden boy promotions looked so promising years back when they were first starting out. They have proven to be a mess though and constantly have problems with their biggest names

[TitoFan]

Too much talk about contracts, clauses, money, and who owes what to who... particularly in boxing... makes my eyes glaze over eventually. It's a pet peeve of mine that I'll gladly discuss or get interested in finance and economics when talking about government or companies. But boxing?? Meh...

That being said, I shed no tears for DAZN. I see them as the greedy bastards who yanked boxing away from television, by first enticing everyone with cute little cheap deals... when everyone knew full well that at some point they'd lower the boom when the fish had been caught (us). Besides... nobody can sell me on watching fights streamed live, when I got so used to the fanfare accompanying major fights on HBO, Showtime, and the like. Old fashioned, I guess.

But damn it if... when boxing talk starts resembling the T-Mobile takeover of Sprint... I gradually tune it out until it's just white noise.

Regarding Canelo leaving Fishnets, yeah... it's a big blow. But like the spurned girlfriend, Oscar has Ryan Garcia to turn to and ease the pain.

[Spicoli]

Too much talk about contracts, clauses, money, and who owes what to who... particularly in boxing... makes my eyes glaze over eventually. It's a pet peeve of mine that I'll gladly discuss or get interested in finance and economics when talking about government or companies. But boxing?? Meh...

That being said, I shed no tears for DAZN. I see them as the greedy bastards who yanked boxing away from television, by first enticing everyone with cute little cheap deals... when everyone knew full well that at some point they'd lower the boom when the fish had been caught (us). Besides... nobody can sell me on watching fights streamed live, when I got so used to the fanfare accompanying major fights on HBO, Showtime, and the like. Old fashioned, I guess.

But damn it if... when boxing talk starts resembling the T-Mobile takeover of Sprint... I gradually tune it out until it's just white noise.

Regarding Canelo leaving Fishnets, yeah... it's a big blow. But like the spurned girlfriend, Oscar has Ryan Garcia to turn to and ease the pain.

Would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the news dropped a franchise was leaving them. They need to put some meat on the grill instead of milking the heffer with Saturday nights of Danny Jacobs v Gabe Rosado and Andrade v a TBA for a TBA . All I'm sayin is they better remind Joshua that rotund bubbly Andy Ruiz was a real incident when he stares across at Pulev next up. Stranger things have happened.

[Spicoli]

Has a massive lawsuit squabble with Oscar and DAZN among talk of Smith-Saunders bouts..becomes free agent..returns to DAZN for Smith. I believe Lydon said it best, ever get the feeling you've been cheated

[powerpuncher]

I wanted Plant more than Smith. Has Smith been training?

[TitoFan]

I wanted Plant more than Smith.

So did Canelo.