Covid- 19 - Second wave

[Master]

Those people need support that is for sure but the lockdown has saved more people than if there was no lockdown.

Where does that logic lead? How much control of your life are you willing to give your government for this IDEA of complete safety?


Also haven't people died of COVID during lockdown? A lot of good the lockdown did THEM!

I said there would be more deaths with no lockdown, never said no deaths. It is not about giving control but being safe for you and others.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Having lived in South Korea from 2007 to 2011, I regularly wore a mask during the height of their usual flu seasons, as did my co-teachers, principal, and the students MOSTLY wore them, maybe 60% or so. It would last a week or 2, then it would be relaxed when the flu died down. I never thought it was weird or an infringement on my rights or anything, I was glad to wear a mask because they get some pretty serious flu seasons over there in The Far East.

I wish the US wouldve mandated masks the moment it was obviously skyrocketing in NYC and elsewhere here. Not sure it wouldve solved it though, but it just HAD TO HAVE cut it down significantly.

Yeah IM not for welding peeps into buildings, that was brutal shit, and THAT answers why in part they got it under control but fuck it, maybe once in a blue moon you gotta do that type of shit WTF do I know.

[Primo Carnera]

Having lived in South Korea from 2007 to 2011, I regularly wore a mask during the height of their usual flu seasons, as did my co-teachers, principal, and the students MOSTLY wore them, maybe 60% or so. It would last a week or 2, then it would be relaxed when the flu died down. I never thought it was weird or an infringement on my rights or anything, I was glad to wear a mask because they get some pretty serious flu seasons over there in The Far East.

I wish the US wouldve mandated masks the moment it was obviously skyrocketing in NYC and elsewhere here. Not sure it wouldve solved it though, but it just HAD TO HAVE cut it down significantly.

Yeah IM not for welding peeps into buildings, that was brutal shit, and THAT answers why in part they got it under control but fuck it, maybe once in a blue moon you gotta do that type of shit WTF do I know.

One thing that is a big help in fighting this is the Vaccine. Still not keen on that ? #justsaying

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Having lived in South Korea from 2007 to 2011, I regularly wore a mask during the height of their usual flu seasons, as did my co-teachers, principal, and the students MOSTLY wore them, maybe 60% or so. It would last a week or 2, then it would be relaxed when the flu died down. I never thought it was weird or an infringement on my rights or anything, I was glad to wear a mask because they get some pretty serious flu seasons over there in The Far East.

I wish the US wouldve mandated masks the moment it was obviously skyrocketing in NYC and elsewhere here. Not sure it wouldve solved it though, but it just HAD TO HAVE cut it down significantly.

Yeah IM not for welding peeps into buildings, that was brutal shit, and THAT answers why in part they got it under control but fuck it, maybe once in a blue moon you gotta do that type of shit WTF do I know.

One thing that is a big help in fighting this is the Vaccine. Still not keen on that ? #justsaying

No not that keen, there are many reports of people who got the first AND the 2nd booster and STILL they came down with COVID, I just read about 4 cases this morning in Chicago like that -- each of the new strains responds differently to the current vaccines. Now you got the Brazilian, the SOuth African and the B117 you got over there. Just this morning in Japan a new strain was discovered. In addition, many people get sick, have some pretty bad side effects from it, and finally I have read that this particular vaccine will not be effective on all of the other strains/mutations/that appear to make it capable of evading antibodies generated by vaccines. Also I just dont trust the vaccine, which is a subjective assessment not based in any scientific data, and feel that they will keep requiring more and more boosters as more and more strains are detected; The B.1.1.7 variant has a slightly altered spike protein, which the virus uses like a crowbar to pry its way into your cells. It’s swapped out some of the amino-acid building blocks in previous strains for others. I just saw University of Rochester study saying the vax will not be more than 20-40% effective for that strain and neither will it be for the new P-1 Brazilian strain. For all those reasons, I personally am not keen on it and will not be getting it.

[Primo Carnera]

Having lived in South Korea from 2007 to 2011, I regularly wore a mask during the height of their usual flu seasons, as did my co-teachers, principal, and the students MOSTLY wore them, maybe 60% or so. It would last a week or 2, then it would be relaxed when the flu died down. I never thought it was weird or an infringement on my rights or anything, I was glad to wear a mask because they get some pretty serious flu seasons over there in The Far East.

I wish the US wouldve mandated masks the moment it was obviously skyrocketing in NYC and elsewhere here. Not sure it wouldve solved it though, but it just HAD TO HAVE cut it down significantly.

Yeah IM not for welding peeps into buildings, that was brutal shit, and THAT answers why in part they got it under control but fuck it, maybe once in a blue moon you gotta do that type of shit WTF do I know.

One thing that is a big help in fighting this is the Vaccine. Still not keen on that ? #justsaying

No not that keen, there are many reports of people who got the first AND the 2nd booster and STILL they came down with COVID, I just read about 4 cases this morning in Chicago like that -- each of the new strains responds differently to the current vaccines. Now you got the Brazilian, the SOuth African and the B117 you got over there. Just this morning in Japan a new strain was discovered. In addition, many people get sick, have some pretty bad side effects from it, and finally I have read that this particular vaccine will not be effective on all of the other strains/mutations/that appear to make it capable of evading antibodies generated by vaccines. Also I just dont trust the vaccine, which is a subjective assessment not based in any scientific data, and feel that they will keep requiring more and more boosters as more and more strains are detected; The B.1.1.7 variant has a slightly altered spike protein, which the virus uses like a crowbar to pry its way into your cells. It’s swapped out some of the amino-acid building blocks in previous strains for others. I just saw University of Rochester study saying the vax will not be more than 20-40% effective for that strain and neither will it be for the new P-1 Brazilian strain. For all those reasons, I personally am not keen on it and will not be getting it.

I hear what you’re saying . I don’t agree with all of it, but I respect your view.
But you have to start somewhere. What other options are there? How else do we get this virus under control?

[TIC]

Having lived in South Korea from 2007 to 2011, I regularly wore a mask during the height of their usual flu seasons, as did my co-teachers, principal, and the students MOSTLY wore them, maybe 60% or so. It would last a week or 2, then it would be relaxed when the flu died down. I never thought it was weird or an infringement on my rights or anything, I was glad to wear a mask because they get some pretty serious flu seasons over there in The Far East.

I wish the US wouldve mandated masks the moment it was obviously skyrocketing in NYC and elsewhere here. Not sure it wouldve solved it though, but it just HAD TO HAVE cut it down significantly.

Yeah IM not for welding peeps into buildings, that was brutal shit, and THAT answers why in part they got it under control but fuck it, maybe once in a blue moon you gotta do that type of shit WTF do I know.

One thing that is a big help in fighting this is the Vaccine. Still not keen on that ? #justsaying

fighting what exactly? if you get your vaccine then you won't need to worry yeh

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Those people need support that is for sure but the lockdown has saved more people than if there was no lockdown.

Where does that logic lead? How much control of your life are you willing to give your government for this IDEA of complete safety?


Also haven't people died of COVID during lockdown? A lot of good the lockdown did THEM!

I said there would be more deaths with no lockdown, never said no deaths. It is not about giving control but being safe for you and others.

stupidity is mankind's worst problem

[X]

Those people need support that is for sure but the lockdown has saved more people than if there was no lockdown.

Where does that logic lead? How much control of your life are you willing to give your government for this IDEA of complete safety?


Also haven't people died of COVID during lockdown? A lot of good the lockdown did THEM!

I said there would be more deaths with no lockdown, never said no deaths. It is not about giving control but being safe for you and others.

stupidity is mankind's worst problem

​Yes, I completely agree .....