Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

[Kirkland Laing]

And because you won't read that far:

But wait, I've heard that schools DO ban books. Those filthy liberals with their cancel culture. So, I went to the Google to look up a list of the most banned books last year because that's a thing anyone with internet can do.


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And I found out that for the most recent year for which we have data (2019), of the 10 books most challenged and banned, *EIGHT* of them were solely because of LGBTQ themes. It seems social conservatives have worked overtime to, uh, "cancel" LGBTQ books.




Keep reading.

[SlimTrae]

Ok, now I see. I wasn't aware the new Liberals want to take us out argument is :
1. Dr. Suess
2. Mr. Potato head.


Reminds me of when they went warpath on Barney The Dinasour

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...053-story.html

"Barney is very much politically correct and liberal in its agenda. He leads kids into a world of miracles and fantasy. It's a New Age philosophy which is the antithesis to the Scripture."

--Right Wing Televangelist


Rather than discuss all the right wing preachers that went contrary to their bible and made prophecies- that turned out just wrong. Rather than to question why is a president being honored with an image made of gold, placed on gold colns. Rather than discuss how in the hell did our state capitial get overrun for 2 HOURS with no real response, they decide the best thing to talk about is Mr. Potato head going mister-less and Dr.Seuss, what god backs these people---so I can stay away from that pagan.

[SlimTrae]

Or, the time their right wing media, tv, radio, cable- went on an tangent about Square Bob Sponge pants.

SpongeBob SquarePants has been assailed by some conservatives as a cunning attempt to advocate homosexuality.



SpongeBob and Homosexuality Sponge Bob, Barney promote 'gay' tolerance

https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evil...osexuality.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/...ds-video_x.htm


What a group- Their narrative has gone from look at liberals' gay purple dinasour, their faggoty sponge bob & their desire to take away Mr. from a friggin potato & now Dr. Suess....these are the issues Trump supporters not only find pressing, as a result it is in the media (their discontentment)...yet they will lie and say- Why isn't it being talked about?
While it is being talked about.

[walrus]

And because you won't read that far:

But wait, I've heard that schools DO ban books. Those filthy liberals with their cancel culture. So, I went to the Google to look up a list of the most banned books last year because that's a thing anyone with internet can do.


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And I found out that for the most recent year for which we have data (2019), of the 10 books most challenged and banned, *EIGHT* of them were solely because of LGBTQ themes. It seems social conservatives have worked overtime to, uh, "cancel" LGBTQ books.




Keep reading.

You need to find out what’s actually go on in the US before you make yourself look more stupid. No one is in a tizzy here just pointing out the stupidity

[NoSavingByTheBell]

"Tizzy for your Thoughts"

by Kirk-o-Land-O-Lakes


Up in a tizzy
Knickers in a right twist
Kirk listens to Thin Lizzy
And slapped Walrus on the wrist

But Walrus aint down for that shit
He will antique your ass like Persian rug
And if you keep doing it
He will squash you like a bug

See knick-knacks n shits
Are good investments, Laing
We know you know about pieces and bits
And dont drive no Mustang

So keep up the good work Kirk
Your duties you cannot shirk
And if you need a little perk:
You can Zoom this Saturday with a Turk

[Kirkland Laing]

And because you won't read that far:

But wait, I've heard that schools DO ban books. Those filthy liberals with their cancel culture. So, I went to the Google to look up a list of the most banned books last year because that's a thing anyone with internet can do.


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And I found out that for the most recent year for which we have data (2019), of the 10 books most challenged and banned, *EIGHT* of them were solely because of LGBTQ themes. It seems social conservatives have worked overtime to, uh, "cancel" LGBTQ books.




Keep reading.

You need to find out what’s actually go on in the US before you make yourself look more stupid. No one is in a tizzy here just pointing out the stupidity

Here's what's going on. The Seuss estate withdrew half a dozen Seuss books from the catalogue as a business decision. They felt that selling racist imagery would damage their long term profits. Conservative news took this business decision by a private company and turned it into a bullshit story about government censorship and the liberals coming for your culture. Conservative media consumers responded by buying Dr. Seuss books in such incredible numbers that over thirty of Amazon's top fifty books are Dr. Seuss books:

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...57755879432193

So conservative media consumers in a bid to own the cancel culture purveyors are currently sending truckloads of money to the Seuss estate who were the ones who cancelled the books in the first place. You people are complete fucking idiots.

Also, too, chef's kiss:

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1367470576256897031

[Gandalf]

Kirkland, is an Asian person using chopsticks racist? I am happy to go to a restaurant, take a picture, and send the world into meltdown.

[Beanz]

Kirkland, is an Asian person using chopsticks racist? I am happy to go to a restaurant, take a picture, and send the world into meltdown.

That is wilfull misrepresentation of the truth. Seuss was himself mature enough to grow and stop calling the character a Chinaman and realise that completing the stereotype with slanty eyes and a triangle hat was actually selling himself short. Nobody but you fibbers are complaining about just the depiction of chopsticks.

This is where an actual example of a moderate response by a private company or estate bring met by what is let's be honest and not mince words.. An extremist almost communist desire to tell individuals and companies what to do by very bored people on the right.

The mural is staying, with only that character replaced, and the majority of the book series will remain.

Freedom of speech and expression it seems does not extend in your eyes to those who refuse to stand still and watch the world move on.

[Gandalf]

My mother in law works in the fields with a traditional covering for the head, has oriental eyes, and uses chopsticks. Kinda normal, old boy. Out here in brochures whitey often has exaggerated round eyes and a pointy nose.

Do me and my mother in law not somewhat fit those stereotypes? Of course we do and no harm is done and the world is just fine.

[Beanz]

My mother in law works in the fields with a traditional covering for the head, has oriental eyes, and uses chopsticks. Kinda normal, old boy. Out here in brochures whitey often has exaggerated round eyes and a pointy nose.

Do me and my mother in law not somewhat fit those stereotypes? Of course we do and no harm is done and the world is just fine.

What you are basically saying then is that unless you yourself are offended it doesn't matter what any else thinks? You never address the substance of anything, just surface level virtue signalling and no real engagement with anything but your own inflated opinion. It is a growing trend here on the forum. It is almost like people don't want to discuss or debate anything just use it as a soapbox. Now you have people boasting about not reading others posters or claiming they use too man words, or calling them boy as though that were some kind of alternative to engaging with them.

It has nothing to do with you does it? It is a private company and the people who own the rights to a reputation they are trying to honour. You just want to tell other people what to do.

Which ironically is the exact thing your are bitching about

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland, is an Asian person using chopsticks racist? I am happy to go to a restaurant, take a picture, and send the world into meltdown.

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think. The Seuss estate is what matters. They will have spent money working out exactly what in the books is offensive to an economically significant part of the American population and acted on that. This is down to the economic power of enough people to move the needle who would be offended by the stuff now not for sale. This is entirely down to dollars.

You can bet every publisher is now feverishly going through their back catalogue desperately hoping to find some racist stuff in some of the books they used to sell truckloads of copies of buy now hardly sell any. They'll be conspiring with public relations companies on the best way to make withdrawing this stuff public so that conservative media go nuts over it and they sell truckloads of books.

To be fair they won't have to try hard. Cancel culture stuff is about ninety nine percent of the GOP agenda and conservative media these days. Lots of dollars to be made by smart publishers here. We haven't heard the last of this.

[Gandalf]

Kirkland, is an Asian person using chopsticks racist? I am happy to go to a restaurant, take a picture, and send the world into meltdown.

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think. The Seuss estate is what matters. They will have spent money working out exactly what in the books is offensive to an economically significant part of the American population and acted on that. This is down to the economic power of enough people to move the needle who would be offended by the stuff now not for sale. This is entirely down to dollars.

You can bet every publisher is now feverishly going through their back catalogue desperately hoping to find some racist stuff in some of the books they used to sell truckloads of copies of buy now hardly sell any. They'll be conspiring with public relations companies on the best way to make withdrawing this stuff public so that conservative media go nuts over it and they sell truckloads of books.

To be fair they won't have to try hard. Cancel culture stuff is about ninety nine percent of the GOP agenda and conservative media these days. Lots of dollars to be made by smart publishers here. We haven't heard the last of this.

Don't be so silly. If anything what they have done is make their own stopped product all the more in demand whence copies selling on ebay for thousands of dollars before that too was stopped because they do not want to be involved in 'offensive' material, whilst of course still selling Walrus' favorite 'How to be a Nazi' guidebook otherwise known as Mein Kampf by a bloke called Mr Hitler.

Naked Lunch, Lolita....there are many books that are not in keeping with the thinking of Ordinary Joe, but to be fair nobody thinks a Chinese man using chopsticks is deemed racist by Ordinary Joe. It is just that Twitter minority that you are so into and they are nutjobs.

[TitoFan]

Kirkland, is an Asian person using chopsticks racist? I am happy to go to a restaurant, take a picture, and send the world into meltdown.

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think. The Seuss estate is what matters. They will have spent money working out exactly what in the books is offensive to an economically significant part of the American population and acted on that. This is down to the economic power of enough people to move the needle who would be offended by the stuff now not for sale. This is entirely down to dollars.

You can bet every publisher is now feverishly going through their back catalogue desperately hoping to find some racist stuff in some of the books they used to sell truckloads of copies of buy now hardly sell any. They'll be conspiring with public relations companies on the best way to make withdrawing this stuff public so that conservative media go nuts over it and they sell truckloads of books.

To be fair they won't have to try hard. Cancel culture stuff is about ninety nine percent of the GOP agenda and conservative media these days. Lots of dollars to be made by smart publishers here. We haven't heard the last of this.

A fair question to ask is why now. Dr. Seuss books have been around for about 80-some years. Why now? I think I know the answer to that... but it's still worth pondering.

Why is it that something that's been around 80-some years is only NOW deemed offensive?

Ditto for Aunt Jemima... ditto for MR. Potato Head... ditto for any number of things/brands/titles/etc. that used to pass for inoffensive, harmless shit.

If it's all economics, wasn't there money to be made beforehand?

Besides... the money is made when shit has to be repackaged/republished/rereleased/etc, etc, etc.

My question is why is it all suddenly offensive NOW?

[Gandalf]

Kirkland, is an Asian person using chopsticks racist? I am happy to go to a restaurant, take a picture, and send the world into meltdown.

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think. The Seuss estate is what matters. They will have spent money working out exactly what in the books is offensive to an economically significant part of the American population and acted on that. This is down to the economic power of enough people to move the needle who would be offended by the stuff now not for sale. This is entirely down to dollars.

You can bet every publisher is now feverishly going through their back catalogue desperately hoping to find some racist stuff in some of the books they used to sell truckloads of copies of buy now hardly sell any. They'll be conspiring with public relations companies on the best way to make withdrawing this stuff public so that conservative media go nuts over it and they sell truckloads of books.

To be fair they won't have to try hard. Cancel culture stuff is about ninety nine percent of the GOP agenda and conservative media these days. Lots of dollars to be made by smart publishers here. We haven't heard the last of this.

A fair question to ask is why now. Dr. Seuss books have been around for about 80-some years. Why now? I think I know the answer to that... but it's still worth pondering.

Why is it that something that's been around 80-some years is only NOW deemed offensive?

Ditto for Aunt Jemima... ditto for MR. Potato Head... ditto for any number of things/brands/titles/etc. that used to pass for inoffensive, harmless shit.

If it's all economics, wasn't there money to be made beforehand?

Besides... the money is made when shit has to be repackaged/republished/rereleased/etc, etc, etc.

My question is why is it all suddenly offensive NOW?

Good points.

I now have to explain to my mother in law that she is now offensive. I mean she gets on at me for not eating rice 3 times a day, wears baggy trousers and a hat in the fields, she wears traditional costume at weddings, and has those oriental eyes. How dare she be like this fitting all these stereotypes? She has to change because to depict her in animated form as she is would certainly be very offensive.

How is it racist if I can go out and take a picture and show that it is actually true even today? Should other cultures not be as they are to fit some vision of what Twitter or the Grievance studies crowd thinks they should be? I find nothing racist or harmful in this image. There must be something wrong with you if you do and lo and behold he is farming rice. The horror.

http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nat.../115_9152.html

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland, is an Asian person using chopsticks racist? I am happy to go to a restaurant, take a picture, and send the world into meltdown.

Doesn't matter what I think or what you think. The Seuss estate is what matters. They will have spent money working out exactly what in the books is offensive to an economically significant part of the American population and acted on that. This is down to the economic power of enough people to move the needle who would be offended by the stuff now not for sale. This is entirely down to dollars.

You can bet every publisher is now feverishly going through their back catalogue desperately hoping to find some racist stuff in some of the books they used to sell truckloads of copies of buy now hardly sell any. They'll be conspiring with public relations companies on the best way to make withdrawing this stuff public so that conservative media go nuts over it and they sell truckloads of books.

To be fair they won't have to try hard. Cancel culture stuff is about ninety nine percent of the GOP agenda and conservative media these days. Lots of dollars to be made by smart publishers here. We haven't heard the last of this.

A fair question to ask is why now. Dr. Seuss books have been around for about 80-some years. Why now? I think I know the answer to that... but it's still worth pondering.

Why is it that something that's been around 80-some years is only NOW deemed offensive?

Ditto for Aunt Jemima... ditto for MR. Potato Head... ditto for any number of things/brands/titles/etc. that used to pass for inoffensive, harmless shit.

If it's all economics, wasn't there money to be made beforehand?

Besides... the money is made when shit has to be repackaged/republished/rereleased/etc, etc, etc.

My question is why is it all suddenly offensive NOW?

The weight of public opinion has finally shifted far enough so that an economically significant number of people see these images as racist and would be unlikely to buy any more Seuss books. Kind of like how you don't get circus or fair freak shows anymore.