Quote Originally Posted by Beanz;1571733
Most vulnerable people in this country have had a flu shot for years and so will have not gotten very ill with the flu. I think you and your family were lucky but i also think your 'healthy' people point of view really, really fucking sucks.

One of my younger sisters caught covid and she is not even thirty, but it put her in hospital. Her twin was fine and like all of us has the gene that makes Ankolysing Spondylitis a factor in our lives. It does not mean that usually she is unfit, quite the opposite, but her inherited disease makes her vulnerable. There have been plenty of other examples of very fit people getting ill also in a way that flu would very rarely have done so. Flu would not have posed the same problems at all for my sister, even though like you say, for some, even the flu can be fatal. I would understand your skepticism if it were based in a rational set of reasons, but you are asking people to make huge imaginary leaps to give your theory credence. The last thing international capitalist societies and corporations want is to stop people earning and spending money, and so quite why they would, after having no option, choose to introduce the measures they have if Covid really was less serious than the flu, makes no sense at all.

Not everybody who is not 'Healthy' is so because of their own laziness, bad habits or failure to use common sense. We are all living longer on a more and more polluted planet, and so disability and disease,will. however fit you keep yourself very likely become a part of your life.

There is (not you) a bit of a Eugenics [I
"pull your socks up it is your fault and if your just drank protein shakes like me you would not be ill" [/I]kind of bullshit undercurrent here on the forum, and the same thing exists in wider society. It would have been nice if all the lockdowns had helped people to understand what is is like for a sizeable chunk of the population who can never go out without help, and have for their entire lives faced the kind of isolation we all now understand a bit better.
Yeah that flu shot thing depends on which type of flu the vaccine was geared to stop and which strain of the flu is running rampant that season. Oftentimes those are very very different.

I appreciate you thinking my point of view sucks. That's totally awesome how you took what I posted, you know, my whole lived experience and everything and then twisted it up to be completely antagonistic to you. Really super awesome when you do that, thanks for putting the effort in. I mean OBVIOUSLY I knew about your sister and I SO BADLY wanted to dunk on people with inherited diseases and health complications...MMMMM....MAN I do so love doing that, I might try it again later on just because it's SOOOOO nails exactly my point and it feels so good to have that be your takeaway.

Yeah I guess the whole "this is what I lived through and experienced" thing totally isn't rational, duh, stupid silly me living through an experience with my family and drawing on all of their experiences from it. What a dope I am.....guess it was just blind fucking luck from all of us.

"Not everybody who is not 'Healthy' is so because of their own laziness, bad habits or failure to use common sense." .....did I say one single solitary fucking thing about that? I've got a Sister In-Law with MS we were quite pleased she didn't/hasn't caught the virus.....oh but there I was talkin' all about how horrible and disgusting the "unhealthies" were....as a matter of fact I was going to go throw rotten tomatoes at them and mock their various ailments because that's the type of 19th century morality play villain I am .....next thing you know I'll have tied Dudley Do-Right's girlfriend to the fucking train tracks.

You DO know in my spare time I actually help raise money to treat children (for free) suffering from various kinds of ailments oh and holy shit what do we have here? https://www.shrinershospitalsforchil...-baszis-md-339 "juvenile ankylosing spondylitis"...God damn "unhealthies"!!!! Why do I feel the need to help out?


Well thanks for ONCE leaving me out of a Nazi analogy, I do sincerely appreciate that.

Maybe just maybe people view "health in general" through the prism of their own life experiences and that of their friends, families, and loved ones.


I was just giving my own personal experiences....my bad, sorry, won't happen again.