Alex Jones material finding its way on YouTube again. lol

[Gandalf]

Tito you will come to your own conclusions but the reason they use the freedom of speech thing is that racist bullshit is rampant here and always has been. We have forum members including mods demanding the right to be racist as though it were a freedom they want to go unchallenged.

We have posters who question whether racism even exists, posters who quote the bell curve and quite clearly believe in Eugenics, posters who belong to segregated fraternal orders that were founded on the ignorant mocking of Arabs and Islam, posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about, posters who deny the holocaust, posters who for years were indulged as they repeated antisemitic tropes and a general attitude to immigration and non white culture that makes it quite clear how backwards, ignorant and bigoted many of them are.

People are backwards for not thinking like you? Ever considered the possibility that you might have it wrong? I see you question The Bell Curve. Do you mean the book? Is it all of the book you disagree with or are there specific chapters you would care to discuss?

[Beanz]

Tito you will come to your own conclusions but the reason they use the freedom of speech thing is that racist bullshit is rampant here and always has been. We have forum members including mods demanding the right to be racist as though it were a freedom they want to go unchallenged.

We have posters who question whether racism even exists, posters who quote the bell curve and quite clearly believe in Eugenics, posters who belong to segregated fraternal orders that were founded on the ignorant mocking of Arabs and Islam, posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about, posters who deny the holocaust, posters who for years were indulged as they repeated antisemitic tropes and a general attitude to immigration and non white culture that makes it quite clear how backwards, ignorant and bigoted many of them are.

People are backwards for not thinking like you? Ever considered the possibility that you might have it wrong? I see you question The Bell Curve. Do you mean the book? Is it all of the book you disagree with or are there specific chapters you would care to discuss?

No people are backwards who do not think for themselves. If you think you can hide your bigotry behind data, statistics and other peoples opinions you are literally going backwards as the rest of the world moves on.

I know you would rather draw me into a tedious fucking debate based on your own desire to virtue signal your own anti-wokeness but there are not enough bells in Christendom to wake you up.

[Gandalf]

Tito you will come to your own conclusions but the reason they use the freedom of speech thing is that racist bullshit is rampant here and always has been. We have forum members including mods demanding the right to be racist as though it were a freedom they want to go unchallenged.

We have posters who question whether racism even exists, posters who quote the bell curve and quite clearly believe in Eugenics, posters who belong to segregated fraternal orders that were founded on the ignorant mocking of Arabs and Islam, posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about, posters who deny the holocaust, posters who for years were indulged as they repeated antisemitic tropes and a general attitude to immigration and non white culture that makes it quite clear how backwards, ignorant and bigoted many of them are.

People are backwards for not thinking like you? Ever considered the possibility that you might have it wrong? I see you question The Bell Curve. Do you mean the book? Is it all of the book you disagree with or are there specific chapters you would care to discuss?

No people are backwards who do not think for themselves. If you think you can hide your bigotry behind data, statistics and other peoples opinions you are literally going backwards as the rest of the world moves on.

I know you would rather draw me into a tedious fucking debate based on your own desire to virtue signal your own anti-wokeness but there are not enough bells in Christendom to wake you up.

It is a book I have read and seen misinterpreted a lot. If you have an issue with it, I would be curious to know which chapters you question. That is all. I mean Sowell has read it and does not agree with everything, but has respect for the level of research put into it. Not just a flippant Beanz style dismissal.

You typically find people who have issues with it have typically not read the book. It is a heavy data laden book at about 1000 pages long. It takes some time to navigate, especially some of the statistical analysis.

Surely, you are not dismissing the entire premise of the book? You did just say Bell Curve. Maybe you strangely do not think they exist either in a general form. Perhaps be more precise with your language and your objections.

Guide me towards a chapter. All ears.

[Gandalf]

The Bell Curve part was obviously a call out to me, but so much wrong with that post. Just to pick an example: "posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about".

Well, is this something to be worried about? The UK where there have been successful non white business people and politicians for over a hundred years, the nation that forced other nations to give up slavery, the nation that continues to have non whites in government, and who do well in society. Is X, for example, hiding behind his sofa worrying about the rise of the new Hitler? Or is he rather a smart chap who does well in a country more tolerant than most others.

Come out here Beanz and I will show you a place with no whites in government and no blacks too. Go to India and try and buy a property and contrast that with the nation that allowed Master's family to come in and build a life. Night and day. Britain has a race problem as compared with where exactly?


It is kind of ordinary for a country with a majority white population to have a majority of white people in positions of influence. Same in India with Indians and in Japan with the Japanese etc.

[Master]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

[Gandalf]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

Who paid black run countries to abolish the slave trade? It was Britain leading that charge. Britain had Indian origin Members of Parliament in the 1890's. Where are the white UK origin politicians and property owners in India today? You cannot even buy property there as a foreigner.

Britain is a far fairer and far less racist country than India and you know it. More than generous when a racist nation simply would not have been so.

'Oh but what about the Empire' is no reason to claim Indians deserve a home in the UK wihout genuine ties there. It is far from reciprocal.

[Master]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

Who paid black run countries to abolish the slave trade? It was Britain leading that charge. Britain had Indian origin Members of Parliament in the 1890's. Where are the white UK origin politicians and property owners in India today? You cannot even buy property there as a foreigner.

Britain is a far fairer and far less racist country than India and you know it. More than generous when a racist nation simply would not have been so.

'Oh but what about the Empire' is no reason to claim Indians deserve a home in the UK wihout genuine ties there. It is far from reciprocal.

The compensation the slave owners received was paid back only recently. Britain became rich and powered the industrial revolution from colonialism and you want a thank you for them stopping it? Delusional.

[Beanz]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

Who paid black run countries to abolish the slave trade? It was Britain leading that charge. Britain had Indian origin Members of Parliament in the 1890's. Where are the white UK origin politicians and property owners in India today? You cannot even buy property there as a foreigner.

Britain is a far fairer and far less racist country than India and you know it. More than generous when a racist nation simply would not have been so.

'Oh but what about the Empire' is no reason to claim Indians deserve a home in the UK wihout genuine ties there. It is far from reciprocal.

Think for yourself.

You sound like Farrage who has just claimed that 'Nobody in history has done more for people of colour than the Royal Family'

He like you said that with a straight face, believing every fucking stupid word of it.

You are so desperate to virtue signal your supposed, Devil's Advocate special rare as Unicorns unique brand of colonial white man bullshit, it is painful to witness you engage in such a humiliating charade.

For a long time i thought 'He can't actually really believe it', but you do


Britain compensated fucking slave owners...OWNERS, half of them are in the house of lords or printing the papers that tell YOU what to think. You repeat them verbatim.

Do yourself a massive favour and instead of filling your head with psuedo scientific American garbage, read David Olusoga's Masterful 'Black and British - A forgotten history' and learn a bit more about the country you don't really seem to understand and certainly never celebrate.

[Beanz]

The Bell Curve part was obviously a call out to me, but so much wrong with that post. Just to pick an example: "posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about".

Well, is this something to be worried about? The UK where there have been successful non white business people and politicians for over a hundred years, the nation that forced other nations to give up slavery, the nation that continues to have non whites in government, and who do well in society. Is X, for example, hiding behind his sofa worrying about the rise of the new Hitler? Or is he rather a smart chap who does well in a country more tolerant than most others.

Come out here Beanz and I will show you a place with no whites in government and no blacks too. Go to India and try and buy a property and contrast that with the nation that allowed Master's family to come in and build a life. Night and day. Britain has a race problem as compared with where exactly?


It is kind of ordinary for a country with a majority white population to have a majority of white people in positions of influence. Same in India with Indians and in Japan with the Japanese etc.

So here it is.

Gandalf you are a liar.

I didn't jump into a discussion between you and Master like a troll did I?

You brought him up in a reply to me. That is the opposite to what you claimed.

For you and El Kabong and Walrus the cunt it is all about trying to trip people up and gaslight me calling me nuts and lazy and crazy etc.

Anything to avoid facing up to your own shared negative whiny bigotry.

[Gandalf]

The Bell Curve part was obviously a call out to me, but so much wrong with that post. Just to pick an example: "posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about".

Well, is this something to be worried about? The UK where there have been successful non white business people and politicians for over a hundred years, the nation that forced other nations to give up slavery, the nation that continues to have non whites in government, and who do well in society. Is X, for example, hiding behind his sofa worrying about the rise of the new Hitler? Or is he rather a smart chap who does well in a country more tolerant than most others.

Come out here Beanz and I will show you a place with no whites in government and no blacks too. Go to India and try and buy a property and contrast that with the nation that allowed Master's family to come in and build a life. Night and day. Britain has a race problem as compared with where exactly?


It is kind of ordinary for a country with a majority white population to have a majority of white people in positions of influence. Same in India with Indians and in Japan with the Japanese etc.

So here it is.

Gandalf you are a liar.

I didn't jump into a discussion between you and Master like a troll did I?

You brought him up in a reply to me. That is the opposite to what you claimed.

For you and El Kabong and Walrus the cunt it is all about trying to trip people up and gaslight me calling me nuts and lazy and crazy etc.

Anything to avoid facing up to your own shared negative whiny bigotry.

Right, I had no exchange with Master and you at no point became Don Quixote on a horse. You have never really addressed any points made either, so fuck knows what you are going on about.

You are boring and whiny, Beanz. Thread after thread with poster after poster. You are clearly not a busy man and I do not have the time you seemingly have in spades.

'Britain racist as compared with where?' turns into nothing more than a barrage of side alleys and personal attacks. Britain is more than generous is all I really posit.

As for your family. Sound like nutters as do you and will leave it there.

[Beanz]

You never read anything anyone posts Gandalf. I am not the only one to have remarked on it. You come with your mind made up pretending to want a conversation, but in reality just wanting to soapbox.

I don't want to ride in on a white horse but I am not going to just keep my mouth shut when you come straight back to the forum and can't help yourself spreading your racist agenda.

It matters that you have the right to express your views but you are now again arguiing for removing that right from anyone that disagrees with you.

Your 'you have too much time on your hands' bullshit, is just another way to try and stopping me posting.

[walrus]

The Bell Curve part was obviously a call out to me, but so much wrong with that post. Just to pick an example: "posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about".

Well, is this something to be worried about? The UK where there have been successful non white business people and politicians for over a hundred years, the nation that forced other nations to give up slavery, the nation that continues to have non whites in government, and who do well in society. Is X, for example, hiding behind his sofa worrying about the rise of the new Hitler? Or is he rather a smart chap who does well in a country more tolerant than most others.

Come out here Beanz and I will show you a place with no whites in government and no blacks too. Go to India and try and buy a property and contrast that with the nation that allowed Master's family to come in and build a life. Night and day. Britain has a race problem as compared with where exactly?


It is kind of ordinary for a country with a majority white population to have a majority of white people in positions of influence. Same in India with Indians and in Japan with the Japanese etc.

So here it is.

Gandalf you are a liar.

I didn't jump into a discussion between you and Master like a troll did I?

You brought him up in a reply to me. That is the opposite to what you claimed.

For you and El Kabong and Walrus the cunt it is all about trying to trip people up and gaslight me calling me nuts and lazy and crazy etc.

Anything to avoid facing up to your own shared negative whiny bigotry.

Right, I had no exchange with Master and you at no point became Don Quixote on a horse. You have never really addressed any points made either, so fuck knows what you are going on about.

You are boring and whiny, Beanz. Thread after thread with poster after poster. You are clearly not a busy man and I do not have the time you seemingly have in spades.

'Britain racist as compared with where?' turns into nothing more than a barrage of side alleys and personal attacks. Britain is more than generous is all I really posit.

As for your family. Sound like nutters as do you and will leave it there.

Ha ha see he referenced me again. Flat calm and peace loving. Gotta love this.