Alex Jones material finding its way on YouTube again. lol

[Gandalf]

The Bell Curve part was obviously a call out to me, but so much wrong with that post. Just to pick an example: "posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about".

Well, is this something to be worried about? The UK where there have been successful non white business people and politicians for over a hundred years, the nation that forced other nations to give up slavery, the nation that continues to have non whites in government, and who do well in society. Is X, for example, hiding behind his sofa worrying about the rise of the new Hitler? Or is he rather a smart chap who does well in a country more tolerant than most others.

Come out here Beanz and I will show you a place with no whites in government and no blacks too. Go to India and try and buy a property and contrast that with the nation that allowed Master's family to come in and build a life. Night and day. Britain has a race problem as compared with where exactly?


It is kind of ordinary for a country with a majority white population to have a majority of white people in positions of influence. Same in India with Indians and in Japan with the Japanese etc.

[Master]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

[Gandalf]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

Who paid black run countries to abolish the slave trade? It was Britain leading that charge. Britain had Indian origin Members of Parliament in the 1890's. Where are the white UK origin politicians and property owners in India today? You cannot even buy property there as a foreigner.

Britain is a far fairer and far less racist country than India and you know it. More than generous when a racist nation simply would not have been so.

'Oh but what about the Empire' is no reason to claim Indians deserve a home in the UK wihout genuine ties there. It is far from reciprocal.

[Master]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

Who paid black run countries to abolish the slave trade? It was Britain leading that charge. Britain had Indian origin Members of Parliament in the 1890's. Where are the white UK origin politicians and property owners in India today? You cannot even buy property there as a foreigner.

Britain is a far fairer and far less racist country than India and you know it. More than generous when a racist nation simply would not have been so.

'Oh but what about the Empire' is no reason to claim Indians deserve a home in the UK wihout genuine ties there. It is far from reciprocal.

The compensation the slave owners received was paid back only recently. Britain became rich and powered the industrial revolution from colonialism and you want a thank you for them stopping it? Delusional.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I will never deny the UK/US's roles in global empire/exploitation/colonialism and its lasting effects on indigenous populations. I have not lived in the UK, so I cant really comment on any racism there, but here in America there undoubtedly is racism as we have hundreds of different ethnicities here in vast numbers crammed in close together in neighborhoods, but since the 1980s there have hardly been any instances of people not getting a job or being denied entrance into schools based on race; on the contrary the affirmative action programs have largely evened all that out over the past 40 years or so, and you will find all races in all positions basically, except for obviously President (tho soon I think Kamala will be President). And when it DOES happen, the guilty parties are sued to the tune of millions of dollars for violating civil rights of individuals and blacklisted all over the media.

In Malaysia or Guyana, the racism between the Chinese, the Tamil Indians, and the ethnic Malays is so thick --even with politicians openly making anti-INdian or anti-Chinese comments and daily stories in the newspapers that would appall you -- you can cut it with a knife. Compared to that I think the UK and US are far less racist nowadays.

[Beanz]

Someone is deliberately forgetting their history and the damaging impact of colonialism and slavery.

Who paid black run countries to abolish the slave trade? It was Britain leading that charge. Britain had Indian origin Members of Parliament in the 1890's. Where are the white UK origin politicians and property owners in India today? You cannot even buy property there as a foreigner.

Britain is a far fairer and far less racist country than India and you know it. More than generous when a racist nation simply would not have been so.

'Oh but what about the Empire' is no reason to claim Indians deserve a home in the UK wihout genuine ties there. It is far from reciprocal.

Think for yourself.

You sound like Farrage who has just claimed that 'Nobody in history has done more for people of colour than the Royal Family'

He like you said that with a straight face, believing every fucking stupid word of it.

You are so desperate to virtue signal your supposed, Devil's Advocate special rare as Unicorns unique brand of colonial white man bullshit, it is painful to witness you engage in such a humiliating charade.

For a long time i thought 'He can't actually really believe it', but you do


Britain compensated fucking slave owners...OWNERS, half of them are in the house of lords or printing the papers that tell YOU what to think. You repeat them verbatim.

Do yourself a massive favour and instead of filling your head with psuedo scientific American garbage, read David Olusoga's Masterful 'Black and British - A forgotten history' and learn a bit more about the country you don't really seem to understand and certainly never celebrate.

[Gandalf]

Look who is astride the horse fighting on behalf of Sancho. What does this have to do with Mouthy Minnie?

Yes, money was given to rulers of regions and nations to stop them doing what they were doing. It wasn't all drone strikes with the British. It was the correct thing to do at the time.

I understand my history, Beanz and colonialism was a side point brought up by Master to distract from my main point that Britain is far more generous than most countries in the world. Yet all you idiots can do is waffle on about the dangers of white supremacy. It is dumb.

[Beanz]

Look who is astride the horse fighting on behalf of Sancho. What does this have to do with Mouthy Minnie?

Yes, money was given to rulers of regions and nations to stop them doing what they were doing. It wasn't all drone strikes with the British. It was the correct thing to do at the time.

I understand my history, Beanz and colonialism was a side point brought up by Master to distract from my main point that Britain is far more generous than most countries in the world. Yet all you idiots can do is waffle on about the dangers of white supremacy. It is dumb.

Colonialism and it's bastard children racism and bigotry are a side point for YOU. That is the crux of the problem. Your blindess, your ignorance, your lies, your propaganda, your lack of empathy, your belligerence, your revisionism. It stinks and that stench precedes you.

[Gandalf]

Look who is astride the horse fighting on behalf of Sancho. What does this have to do with Mouthy Minnie?

Yes, money was given to rulers of regions and nations to stop them doing what they were doing. It wasn't all drone strikes with the British. It was the correct thing to do at the time.

I understand my history, Beanz and colonialism was a side point brought up by Master to distract from my main point that Britain is far more generous than most countries in the world. Yet all you idiots can do is waffle on about the dangers of white supremacy. It is dumb.

Colonialism and it's bastard children racism and bigotry are a side point for YOU. That is the crux of the problem. Your blindess, your ignorance, your lies, your propaganda, your lack of empathy, your belligerence, your revisionism. It stinks and that stench precedes you.

Lots of insults, but little reasoning. Try again.

[Gandalf]

The reality is few countries on this planet have been as generous to outsiders with little than the UK. If not, then as compared with where? India is certainly not generous. I can list many more examples.

Am I entitled to a job in France because of the Normans? Such a naive way of thinking. Are Koreans entitled to live in Japan? Why? Oh, because of colonialism! It is poor logic.

You rebuild and move on. You have no need to fracture your own society those of whom who were mostly just toiling day to day themselves. That is their society.

The left is insidious really.

[Beanz]

The Bell Curve part was obviously a call out to me, but so much wrong with that post. Just to pick an example: "posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about".

Well, is this something to be worried about? The UK where there have been successful non white business people and politicians for over a hundred years, the nation that forced other nations to give up slavery, the nation that continues to have non whites in government, and who do well in society. Is X, for example, hiding behind his sofa worrying about the rise of the new Hitler? Or is he rather a smart chap who does well in a country more tolerant than most others.

Come out here Beanz and I will show you a place with no whites in government and no blacks too. Go to India and try and buy a property and contrast that with the nation that allowed Master's family to come in and build a life. Night and day. Britain has a race problem as compared with where exactly?


It is kind of ordinary for a country with a majority white population to have a majority of white people in positions of influence. Same in India with Indians and in Japan with the Japanese etc.

So here it is.

Gandalf you are a liar.

I didn't jump into a discussion between you and Master like a troll did I?

You brought him up in a reply to me. That is the opposite to what you claimed.

For you and El Kabong and Walrus the cunt it is all about trying to trip people up and gaslight me calling me nuts and lazy and crazy etc.

Anything to avoid facing up to your own shared negative whiny bigotry.

[Gandalf]

The Bell Curve part was obviously a call out to me, but so much wrong with that post. Just to pick an example: "posters who think white power and white supremacy are nothing to be worried about".

Well, is this something to be worried about? The UK where there have been successful non white business people and politicians for over a hundred years, the nation that forced other nations to give up slavery, the nation that continues to have non whites in government, and who do well in society. Is X, for example, hiding behind his sofa worrying about the rise of the new Hitler? Or is he rather a smart chap who does well in a country more tolerant than most others.

Come out here Beanz and I will show you a place with no whites in government and no blacks too. Go to India and try and buy a property and contrast that with the nation that allowed Master's family to come in and build a life. Night and day. Britain has a race problem as compared with where exactly?


It is kind of ordinary for a country with a majority white population to have a majority of white people in positions of influence. Same in India with Indians and in Japan with the Japanese etc.

So here it is.

Gandalf you are a liar.

I didn't jump into a discussion between you and Master like a troll did I?

You brought him up in a reply to me. That is the opposite to what you claimed.

For you and El Kabong and Walrus the cunt it is all about trying to trip people up and gaslight me calling me nuts and lazy and crazy etc.

Anything to avoid facing up to your own shared negative whiny bigotry.

Right, I had no exchange with Master and you at no point became Don Quixote on a horse. You have never really addressed any points made either, so fuck knows what you are going on about.

You are boring and whiny, Beanz. Thread after thread with poster after poster. You are clearly not a busy man and I do not have the time you seemingly have in spades.

'Britain racist as compared with where?' turns into nothing more than a barrage of side alleys and personal attacks. Britain is more than generous is all I really posit.

As for your family. Sound like nutters as do you and will leave it there.

[Beanz]

You never read anything anyone posts Gandalf. I am not the only one to have remarked on it. You come with your mind made up pretending to want a conversation, but in reality just wanting to soapbox.

I don't want to ride in on a white horse but I am not going to just keep my mouth shut when you come straight back to the forum and can't help yourself spreading your racist agenda.

It matters that you have the right to express your views but you are now again arguiing for removing that right from anyone that disagrees with you.

Your 'you have too much time on your hands' bullshit, is just another way to try and stopping me posting.

[Gandalf]

Unfortunately I have had the mispleasure of reading your purposeful misinterpretation of most things. Basically 'The UK treats minorities more than well. Otherwise where else does it better?' That is the basic premise and all you have is midnight ranting.

When I post it is wgen my wife is at work, but for you it is day in day out as a full time carer. Allegedly. Maybe spend more time with your loved one than the evil racists. Then again, you would argue that this is working time.

Trolling is what you are doing right now and in other threads. People are sick of hearing you, Beanz. You are too aggressive and loud.

[Beanz]

Unfortunately I have had the mispleasure of reading your purposeful misinterpretation of most things. Basically 'The UK treats minorities more than well. Otherwise where else does it better?' That is the basic premise and all you have is midnight ranting.

When I post it is wgen my wife is at work, but for you it is day in day out as a full time carer. Allegedly. Maybe spend more time with your loved one than the evil racists. Then again, you would argue that this is working time.

Trolling is what you are doing right now and in other threads. People are sick of hearing you, Beanz. You are too aggressive and loud.

You don't live in the UK and even when you did you were never part of a minority, but that does not excuse your wilful blindness.

This is a thread in which three of you are repeating the lie that Alex Jones is a victim. This is your argument. You are having to pretend he is depersonned or cancelled in order to defend that lie

Robustly opposing that point of view is not trolling it is using the forum for that which it was created. Your feelings about me or my opinions are neither here nor there, nobody is stopping you expressing them.

And again when and where I choose to post from is neither here nor there. Often I am in the same room as the Mrs or outside together when I post on my phone. We spend so much more time together than most couples so no need for you to stick your big nose in there either.

You are all so uptight it's pretty sad.

If people are sick of hearing me they are free to express that view here. Unlike yourself and your fellow Jones supporter here I have never asked for posters to be banned or hounded them off the forum and you are not going to get away with doing that to me again either.

In a thread about de personning and cancel culture/free speech? It is very funny. 😁