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    I would not class these fighters in the same category of the Four Kings. They were not at that legendary level even if they gave us a great time in boxing. The US fighters like Roy Jones Junior, James Toney and Jamaican the body snatcher Mike McCallum were better and I would even say these 3 British fighters avoided Herol Graham who would have beaten them.

    I would not count Carl Thompson as the 4th person as he only fought Eubank and that was at the end of Chris career and was at the higher weight. A more appropriate person would be Steve Collins as he fought Eubank and Benn at super middleweight even if it was at the end of both their careers.

    Nigel Benn’s first fight with Chris Eubank in 1990 was a brutal war but Chris was put on the floor once not twice as you claim and that was more of a slip from a punch to the back of the head. Richard Steele said that was the most brutal fight he had seen and he was a world class referee.

    The second fight was not a war as you stated. Benn had adapted his defence and moved his head to the extent that Eubank could not handle it. Benn grew as a better fighter and into the super middleweight limit.

    Nigel Benn was the more exciting fighter who improved after each loss and took on the most dangerous challenges going to US and Italy to rip the titles away from the champions. He was the only one willing to take on the dangerous G Man and the only one who would have been bold enough to face Jones and Toney if the offer was right.
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    Your infatuation with Herol is disturbing
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    I've always felt Wilfredo Benitez was slighted when this reference came out. IMO, there were five kings.

    Benitez faced Leonard (L-TKO), Duran (W-UD), and Hearns (L-MD). The only one of the four he didn't face was Hagler.

    Five Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I've always felt Wilfredo Benitez was slighted when this reference came out. IMO, there were five kings.

    Benitez faced Leonard (L-TKO), Duran (W-UD), and Hearns (L-MD). The only one of the four he didn't face was Hagler.

    Five Kings.
    huh!!!!!!!!!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I've always felt Wilfredo Benitez was slighted when this reference came out. IMO, there were five kings.

    Benitez faced Leonard (L-TKO), Duran (W-UD), and Hearns (L-MD). The only one of the four he didn't face was Hagler.

    Five Kings.

    I agree but Kimball set the definitions and I had to go with his four.

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    Interesting stuff. On a side note I named a feral can I adopted after Nigel Benn. He definitely thought he was a king. Missed cleaning the litter box once so he climbed onto my nightstand in the middle of the night and pissed on my wallet. And keys. Closest I've ever come to being married . On a side side note. Benn beat Eubanks in II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would not class these fighters in the same category of the Four Kings. They were not at that legendary level even if they gave us a great time in boxing. The US fighters like Roy Jones Junior, James Toney and Jamaican the body snatcher Mike McCallum were better and I would even say these 3 British fighters avoided Herol Graham who would have beaten them.

    I would not count Carl Thompson as the 4th person as he only fought Eubank and that was at the end of Chris career and was at the higher weight. A more appropriate person would be Steve Collins as he fought Eubank and Benn at super middleweight even if it was at the end of both their careers.

    Nigel Benn’s first fight with Chris Eubank in 1990 was a brutal war but Chris was put on the floor once not twice as you claim and that was more of a slip from a punch to the back of the head. Richard Steele said that was the most brutal fight he had seen and he was a world class referee.

    The second fight was not a war as you stated. Benn had adapted his defence and moved his head to the extent that Eubank could not handle it. Benn grew as a better fighter and into the super middleweight limit.

    Nigel Benn was the more exciting fighter who improved after each loss and took on the most dangerous challenges going to US and Italy to rip the titles away from the champions. He was the only one willing to take on the dangerous G Man and the only one who would have been bold enough to face Jones and Toney if the offer was right.


    Well you sure missed the intent of the article. It was intended to "remind" rather than "compare."
    Last edited by holmcall; 03-23-2021 at 09:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would not class these fighters in the same category of the Four Kings. They were not at that legendary level even if they gave us a great time in boxing. The US fighters like Roy Jones Junior, James Toney and Jamaican the body snatcher Mike McCallum were better and I would even say these 3 British fighters avoided Herol Graham who would have beaten them.

    I would not count Carl Thompson as the 4th person as he only fought Eubank and that was at the end of Chris career and was at the higher weight. A more appropriate person would be Steve Collins as he fought Eubank and Benn at super middleweight even if it was at the end of both their careers.

    Nigel Benn’s first fight with Chris Eubank in 1990 was a brutal war but Chris was put on the floor once not twice as you claim and that was more of a slip from a punch to the back of the head. Richard Steele said that was the most brutal fight he had seen and he was a world class referee.

    The second fight was not a war as you stated. Benn had adapted his defence and moved his head to the extent that Eubank could not handle it. Benn grew as a better fighter and into the super middleweight limit.

    Nigel Benn was the more exciting fighter who improved after each loss and took on the most dangerous challenges going to US and Italy to rip the titles away from the champions. He was the only one willing to take on the dangerous G Man and the only one who would have been bold enough to face Jones and Toney if the offer was right.


    Well you sure missed the intent of the article. It was intended to "remind" rather than "compare."
    The article is reminding people the wrong things from what I remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would not class these fighters in the same category of the Four Kings. They were not at that legendary level even if they gave us a great time in boxing. The US fighters like Roy Jones Junior, James Toney and Jamaican the body snatcher Mike McCallum were better and I would even say these 3 British fighters avoided Herol Graham who would have beaten them.

    I would not count Carl Thompson as the 4th person as he only fought Eubank and that was at the end of Chris career and was at the higher weight. A more appropriate person would be Steve Collins as he fought Eubank and Benn at super middleweight even if it was at the end of both their careers.

    Nigel Benn’s first fight with Chris Eubank in 1990 was a brutal war but Chris was put on the floor once not twice as you claim and that was more of a slip from a punch to the back of the head. Richard Steele said that was the most brutal fight he had seen and he was a world class referee.

    The second fight was not a war as you stated. Benn had adapted his defence and moved his head to the extent that Eubank could not handle it. Benn grew as a better fighter and into the super middleweight limit.

    Nigel Benn was the more exciting fighter who improved after each loss and took on the most dangerous challenges going to US and Italy to rip the titles away from the champions. He was the only one willing to take on the dangerous G Man and the only one who would have been bold enough to face Jones and Toney if the offer was right.


    Well you sure missed the intent of the article. It was intended to "remind" rather than "compare."
    The article is reminding people the wrong things from what I remember.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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