@SlimTrae All good and valid points which I tend to agree with but you guys are sort of doing the same thing Trump supporters got accused of which was whenever anybody accused Trump or something they were then shift and say yeah but what about Obama or Hillary.

Since this is the Biden thread I think shifting it to what Trump has done is sort of the same kind of whataboutiSM or whataboutery that we Trump supporters got accused of (and rightfully so because I agree that we did do it, Tito, no denying it)...

So yeah what's good for the goose is good for the gander and I won't deny that either.

But does this mean that we can never get any honest feedback from Democrats about Biden and pssaki and Harris, without reverting to how Trump did even stupider body language or whatever?