Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

COVID vaccines: Tens of thousands of “breakthrough” infections after shots
CDC reports 25,900 COVID-19 infections and 274 deaths in fully vaccinated people

and thats just in the US..... and its only April.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The variants of the virus have already accumulated mutliple mutations that change its protein structure, and peoples' immune systems are already no longer recognizing them.

One big concern we are all seeing now is that these variants are escaping the immunity that we hope to acquire with immunization, so the antibodies that we have against specific targets are not working as effectively. They are already talking about a 3rd, 4th and 5th booster by September, December and February 2021.

[Primo Carnera]

The variants of the virus have already accumulated mutliple mutations that change its protein structure, and peoples' immune systems are already no longer recognizing them.

One big concern we are all seeing now is that these variants are escaping the immunity that we hope to acquire with immunization, so the antibodies that we have against specific targets are not working as effectively. They are already talking about a 3rd, 4th and 5th booster by September, December and February 2021.

Ok. What do you suggest?

[Beanz]

The variants of the virus have already accumulated mutliple mutations that change its protein structure, and peoples' immune systems are already no longer recognizing them.

One big concern we are all seeing now is that these variants are escaping the immunity that we hope to acquire with immunization, so the antibodies that we have against specific targets are not working as effectively. They are already talking about a 3rd, 4th and 5th booster by September, December and February 2021.

Ok. What do you suggest?

It is not even true. Most of the vaccines have been shown to be surprisingly effective against variants, especially the Pfzier vaccine.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I suggest vitamins and minerals and exercise and a good diet and wearing a mask and social distancing.

Sooner or later everyone has to die. The long-term effects of these experimental gene therapy so-called vaccines are not known and the people who are getting them now ARE the tests.

[TitoFan]

It's true.

There is an informative podcast out there by a Dr. David Martin, who is a distant relative of Uncle Martin who... well, that's a long story.

Point is, Dr. Martin, who has advanced degrees in some sort of academic field, has stated unequivocally in his podcast that the COVID-19 vaccine is actually a form of gene therapy.

In the podcast, Dr. Martin states: “The problem is that in the case of Moderna and Pfizer, this is not a vaccine. This is gene therapy. It’s a chemotherapy agent that is gene therapy. It is not a vaccine.”

Ohhhh...... THAT makes it so much clearer.

Anyway, the guy goes by the title of "Dr."..... so how can we not believe him?

[SlimTrae]

Tough to know what to think.

I just browsed this Dr. Martin and that led me to another Dr. Steven Hotze. Ok so it isn't a vaccine? The Hotze dude strikes me more as a politically charged, but just my opinion.

As the numbers are hard to dispute. If millions of vaccinations have occurred -it would seem inevitable that a few people would be unfortunate victims and have a bad reaction.

The fact that millions of people are ok after getting their shots, makes it hard to think this vaccine is intentionally bad.

My question is not knowing if there are certain blood types that respond better/worse. The studies I am hoping to come across.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...19/ar-BB15Fl2G

Am I to think every woman that got a blood clot or gushing menstrual period or men who died are all just random? Or the result of specific demographic that don't fare well?

Case for me is my mom, I don't think the flu vaccine is bad, but it is for my mother. She has had two bad reactions and I dont want her taking that shot anymore, Made her sick as hell.

[Primo Carnera]

I suggest vitamins and minerals and exercise and a good diet and wearing a mask and social distancing.

Sooner or later everyone has to die. The long-term effects of these experimental gene therapy so-called vaccines are not known and the people who are getting them now ARE the tests.

yep, all very smart things to do. But to CONTROL this virus (because we’re never gonna be rid of it.) do you seriously think these things are gonna work ? And now you’re saying “wearing a mask”, last month you were saying people should have the choice whether to wear a mask. 6 months before that, you had Mask Paranoia! You wouldn’t take a shit without a mask !
You are the flip flop backstroke World Champion.
Heavy on long sentences with big words, and general criticism, but light on actual solutions.
What next ? Brock’s cure for Cancer........ A good brisk walk!

[walrus]

I suggest vitamins and minerals and exercise and a good diet and wearing a mask and social distancing.

Sooner or later everyone has to die. The long-term effects of these experimental gene therapy so-called vaccines are not known and the people who are getting them now ARE the tests.

yep, all very smart things to do. But to CONTROL this virus (because we’re never gonna be rid of it.) do you seriously think these things are gonna work ? And now you’re saying “wearing a mask”, last month you were saying people should have the choice whether to wear a mask. 6 months before that, you had Mask Paranoia! You wouldn’t take a shit without a mask !
You are the flip flop backstroke World Champion.
Heavy on long sentences with big words, and general criticism, but light on actual solutions.
What next ? Brock’s cure for Cancer........ A good brisk walk!

Oh snap it’s a tag team now Brock completely ruined I almost feel bad for him

[Beanz]

I suggest vitamins and minerals and exercise and a good diet and wearing a mask and social distancing.

Sooner or later everyone has to die. The long-term effects of these experimental gene therapy so-called vaccines are not known and the people who are getting them now ARE the tests.

That is a stupid argument. Your reason for not taking the vaccine was a supposed fear of their side effects but one of the possible side effects of covid is death. Premature death, blood cots, long term breathing difficulties etc. Now here you are welcoming death.

You calling one of, if not the largest and most well documented vaccine roll out in history "so-called vaccines" doesn't make it true.

It is a vaccine. That is how it works and has already been explained to you.

We are all sick to the back teeth of social distancing and the vaccine roll out is the only thing that will start to change that. It has already done so here where people are free to meet outside and by June all restrictions are due to be lifted.

It is ironic that the very people claiming to want to end the restrictions because of their 'rights' are in many cases the ones refusing to do the simplest of things to enable that.

[SlimTrae]

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but one of the possible side effects of covid is death.

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Death the final side effect. Hard to argue this one.

[walrus]

The variants of the virus have already accumulated mutliple mutations that change its protein structure, and peoples' immune systems are already no longer recognizing them.

One big concern we are all seeing now is that these variants are escaping the immunity that we hope to acquire with immunization, so the antibodies that we have against specific targets are not working as effectively. They are already talking about a 3rd, 4th and 5th booster by September, December and February 2021.

Like beanz said you are ruining the forum with this nonsense. Don’t spread fud. I gotta take beanerschnitzels side on this one

[ykdadamaja]

I'm not interested in taking any of them. We have the Oxford/AstraZeneca here in The Bahamas and wider Caribbean through the COVAX facility, and we have all heard about the blood clotting issues.

Everyone started talking shit about the OX/AZ vaccine and started whooping and hollering for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, until that showed to have blood clotting issues too and America had to take it out of circulation until they did not tests. So scratch that.

Now I am hearing that Israel is finding heart inflammation issues with the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...shot-1.5401640


So I won't be taking any of that shit right now. I will wear my mask and roll the dice. Plus, I believe I had it before anyways... from the onset of 2020 prior to the lockdowns.

[Master]

I'm not interested in taking any of them. We have the Oxford/AstraZeneca here in The Bahamas and wider Caribbean through the COVAX facility, and we have all heard about the blood clotting issues.

Everyone started talking shit about the OX/AZ vaccine and started whooping and hollering for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, until that showed to have blood clotting issues too and America had to take it out of circulation until they did not tests. So scratch that.

Now I am hearing that Israel is finding heart inflammation issues with the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...shot-1.5401640


So I won't be taking any of that shit right now. I will wear my mask and roll the dice. Plus, I believe I had it before anyways... from the onset of 2020 prior to the lockdowns.

I would take the vaccine if I was you even if you beleive you have had the covid 19 virus. Be sensible and safe.

[TIC]

I'm not interested in taking any of them. We have the Oxford/AstraZeneca here in The Bahamas and wider Caribbean through the COVAX facility, and we have all heard about the blood clotting issues.

Everyone started talking shit about the OX/AZ vaccine and started whooping and hollering for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, until that showed to have blood clotting issues too and America had to take it out of circulation until they did not tests. So scratch that.

Now I am hearing that Israel is finding heart inflammation issues with the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...shot-1.5401640


So I won't be taking any of that shit right now. I will wear my mask and roll the dice. Plus, I believe I had it before anyways... from the onset of 2020 prior to the lockdowns.

I would take the vaccine if I was you even if you beleive you have had the covid 19 virus. Be sensible and safe.

sounds like your giving medical advice