George Floyd murdered by cops

[walrus]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

[palmerq]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

[walrus]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

[Spicoli]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

[TitoFan]

So good chance Chauvin spends the rest of his life in prison.

Good.

Hope it's the deterrent everyone hopes it'll be to the other Chauvins out there.

[walrus]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

Maybe not. Just the judge bringing it up I think gives it weight. Can’t say for sure of course not a lawyer. Now what is this dude facing time wise? I know I stirred up some doo doo saying I wanted the jury to decide. I said long back in the thread the dude looked guilty by his actions but I don’t feel comfortable declaring guilt by media story these days. Just my take on things.

[TitoFan]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

Maybe not. Just the judge bringing it up I think gives it weight. Can’t say for sure of course not a lawyer. Now what is this dude facing time wise? I know I stirred up some doo doo saying I wanted the jury to decide. I said long back in the thread the dude looked guilty by his actions but I don’t feel comfortable declaring guilt by media story these days. Just my take on things.

Me neither.

I do, however, feel comfortable declaring guilty by videos taken from multiple angles and multiple sources... where nothing's fuzzy or up for interpretation. Where sound is just as damning as video.

I feel pretty comfortable with that.

[Beanz]

Fucking damn right. Fucking sickening.
And then peeps wanna say there should be no riots.

Martin Luther King: "The language of unheard voices is rioting."

Yeah, the Let Them Eat Cake crowd could never relate to that.

Oh wait, but if you ask them to wear a mask.....

@Master it’s not always a unanimous decision required it’s not always even 12 jurors. It can vary by state but 12 and unanimous is the standard. The bar was meant to be set high. I think it was James Madison who said “I’d rather see 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man go to jail” that is paraphrased and I’m not sure it was Madison, too lazy to look it up right now. One can also request just a judge hear the case and make a decision. In this case think of the jurors position. Let’s just say they consider a not guilty verdict. They live in the area and aware that shit will burn if they don’t convict. Mind you I’m not saying the dude is innocent. I wasn’t at the trial. I don’t think Maxine waters comments were helpful to the case, it is grounds for a possible appeal.

yes its a possible appeal for sure. He'll be guilty this time and next year it'll be appealed and he'll get off. A severed bloody pig's head was left at the house of a juror and shots were fired at National Guardsmen a mile from where Waters was calling for violence, a mere 20 minutes after her incitement. Words matter. She will be held accountable. Should be removed from Congress for sure. Funny thing is she's jeopardized her own position, and this case as well. The judge was very, VERY clear about the appeal potential. Maxine Waters, low IQ forever. Trump? Genius.

This is what I meant when I pointed out how you talk out of both sides of your mouth. It wasn't an ad hominem attack, it was a reflection based on facts. Here you are in the same thread calling for riots and then calling someone else an idiot for doing the exact same thing.

It is what I meant when I suggested if you were with fellow Saddos and it all kicked off, you would join the side you thought was likely to win.

I don't get any pleasure in pointing it out.
'If there even is such a thing as racism'? Is something else you said to suck up to the racists here.

Sad.

[Kirkland Laing]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

Maybe not. Just the judge bringing it up I think gives it weight. Can’t say for sure of course not a lawyer. Now what is this dude facing time wise? I know I stirred up some doo doo saying I wanted the jury to decide. I said long back in the thread the dude looked guilty by his actions but I don’t feel comfortable declaring guilt by media story these days. Just my take on things.

This is where you could benefit by getting some of your information from.........twitter. There are dozens of appelate lawyers on there and there's basically unanimous agreement that there's no chance of a successful appeal. Long story short, if there's either video evidence of the crime or the trial itslef was filmed or there's overwhelming evidence of the crime then forget a successful appeal. In this case you've got all three. It's doubtful that an appelate court will even hear it past watching the video.

An example from twitter of somebody who knows what they're talking about:



https://twitter.com/ryanlocke/status...24207062093828


This is all academic anyway as Chauvin will get shanked in prison sooner rather than later. And I would expect his family to start taking casualties even before somebody manages to get to Chauvin.

[Kirkland Laing]

https://twitter.com/chrisvanderveen/...16345262776322

[walrus]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

Maybe not. Just the judge bringing it up I think gives it weight. Can’t say for sure of course not a lawyer. Now what is this dude facing time wise? I know I stirred up some doo doo saying I wanted the jury to decide. I said long back in the thread the dude looked guilty by his actions but I don’t feel comfortable declaring guilt by media story these days. Just my take on things.

This is where you could benefit by getting some of your information from.........twitter. There are dozens of appelate lawyers on there and there's basically unanimous agreement that there's no chance of a successful appeal. Long story short, if there's either video evidence of the crime or the trial itslef was filmed or there's overwhelming evidence of the crime then forget a successful appeal. In this case you've got all three. It's doubtful that an appelate court will even hear it past watching the video.

An example from twitter of somebody who knows what they're talking about:



https://twitter.com/ryanlocke/status...24207062093828


This is all academic anyway as Chauvin will get shanked in prison sooner rather than later. And I would expect his family to start taking casualties even before somebody manages to get to Chauvin.

FYI he will in PC in prison. Most high profile cases are. Of course I’ve worked in US prisons you probably know better

[walrus]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

Maybe not. Just the judge bringing it up I think gives it weight. Can’t say for sure of course not a lawyer. Now what is this dude facing time wise? I know I stirred up some doo doo saying I wanted the jury to decide. I said long back in the thread the dude looked guilty by his actions but I don’t feel comfortable declaring guilt by media story these days. Just my take on things.

This is where you could benefit by getting some of your information from.........twitter. There are dozens of appelate lawyers on there and there's basically unanimous agreement that there's no chance of a successful appeal. Long story short, if there's either video evidence of the crime or the trial itslef was filmed or there's overwhelming evidence of the crime then forget a successful appeal. In this case you've got all three. It's doubtful that an appelate court will even hear it past watching the video.

An example from twitter of somebody who knows what they're talking about:



https://twitter.com/ryanlocke/status...24207062093828


This is all academic anyway as Chauvin will get shanked in prison sooner rather than later. And I would expect his family to start taking casualties even before somebody manages to get to Chauvin.

I don’t like Twitter due to its censorship and algorithm feeding people news they only agree with. Very divisive. It leads to people being close minded like yourself. The judge has leeway in sentencing. I find too much reporting too biased. But l live here and hear it everyday. Probably different for people who rely on twatter everyday feeding there own bias and making them feel secure and right 100% of the time.

[Spicoli]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

Maybe not. Just the judge bringing it up I think gives it weight. Can’t say for sure of course not a lawyer. Now what is this dude facing time wise? I know I stirred up some doo doo saying I wanted the jury to decide. I said long back in the thread the dude looked guilty by his actions but I don’t feel comfortable declaring guilt by media story these days. Just my take on things.

Yeh it's literally all in his hands within sentencing guidelines. I think this is a case of the actuality and literal factual video-audio almost making any traditional media stir up, right left, an afterthought. We see that more and more now with literal eye witnesses on live stream and vid by the dozen. These old school networks go chasing them as a reactor. The rhetoric and network productions surrounding many of these recent incidents and shootings is proving to be very careless and pre judged. They literally have to be and are case by case if people can take their narrative blinders off and take a long hard look and listen to what the facts are whether one agrees or not.

[TitoFan]

Verdict has been reached, will be read in around 30 mins... Didn't take too long.

I would guess guilty if it’s that quick

You are correct, guilty of everything.

Ya, not surprising, just wanted the court to do its thing. Tbh it’s unfortunate we are probably going to see this again as there are some very valid reasons for appeal, those words aren’t from my mouth, they are from the judges mouth.

Far as yesterday I don't see anything coming on the Waters front. A politician with a big mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. She's a dope, has been all along. But if anything a shifty defense lawyer would have made a case when they seated the juror who said they were "afraid" of the BLM stuff. Hmm so afraid you cannot make an independent decision .

Maybe not. Just the judge bringing it up I think gives it weight. Can’t say for sure of course not a lawyer. Now what is this dude facing time wise? I know I stirred up some doo doo saying I wanted the jury to decide. I said long back in the thread the dude looked guilty by his actions but I don’t feel comfortable declaring guilt by media story these days. Just my take on things.

Yeh it's literally all in his hands within sentencing guidelines. I think this is a case of the actuality and literal factual video-audio almost making any traditional media stir up, right left, an afterthought. We see that more and more now with literal eye witnesses on live stream and vid by the dozen. These old school networks go chasing them as a reactor. The rhetoric and network productions surrounding many of these recent incidents and shootings is proving to be very careless and pre judged. They literally have to be and are case by case if people can take their narrative blinders off and take a long hard look and listen to what the facts are whether one agrees or not.

With all the deserved flak social media gets (as well as smartphones, selfies, etc.).... one positive aspect is the immediate and unmistakable evidence that is now readily available in cases where in the past, abusing cops would've gotten off scot-free based on their own little protective society. It's called ACCOUNTABILITY. Body cams were a step in the right direction... but too often they can be "oops" turned off or mysteriously defective at the time of the transgression. Either that or not offer a good enough vantage point.

So hooray for all those millions of paparazzi wannabes.

[Spicoli]

Good with that honestly. It's just. But don't ask me about the case in Chicago where they want the cop strung up and the teen who had just ditched a gun. But I don't quite get charging someone with 3rd degree murder and the lower manslaughter.