The flip side to the George Floyd mess

[Beanz]

Fucking damn right. Fucking sickening.
And then peeps wanna say there should be no riots.

Martin Luther King: "The language of unheard voices is rioting."

Yeah, the Let Them Eat Cake crowd could never relate to that.

Oh wait, but if you ask them to wear a mask.....

@Master it’s not always a unanimous decision required it’s not always even 12 jurors. It can vary by state but 12 and unanimous is the standard. The bar was meant to be set high. I think it was James Madison who said “I’d rather see 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man go to jail” that is paraphrased and I’m not sure it was Madison, too lazy to look it up right now. One can also request just a judge hear the case and make a decision. In this case think of the jurors position. Let’s just say they consider a not guilty verdict. They live in the area and aware that shit will burn if they don’t convict. Mind you I’m not saying the dude is innocent. I wasn’t at the trial. I don’t think Maxine waters comments were helpful to the case, it is grounds for a possible appeal.

yes its a possible appeal for sure. He'll be guilty this time and next year it'll be appealed and he'll get off. A severed bloody pig's head was left at the house of a juror and shots were fired at National Guardsmen a mile from where Waters was calling for violence, a mere 20 minutes after her incitement. Words matter. She will be held accountable. Should be removed from Congress for sure. Funny thing is she's jeopardized her own position, and this case as well. The judge was very, VERY clear about the appeal potential. Maxine Waters, low IQ forever. Trump? Genius.

Well apparently it is fine when Dr Martin Luther King says it, it is fine but when Maxine Waters says it then "She will be held accountable".

It is laughable that the same people insisting the Trump's words were in no way responsible for the idiots storming the Capitol are now so self righteously insisting Walters be held accountable for something that did not even happen.

Nobody is comparing her to Martin Luther King but her words come from the same place, and that sense of frustration at the real injustice faced is nothing like the empty belly aching of spoilt White boys when Daddy Trump sold them all out.

[ykdadamaja]

Auntie Maxine goes way too far at times. She is well past he use date.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Auntie Maxine goes way too far at times. She is well past he use date.

Yep.

[TitoFan]

Auntie Maxine goes way too far at times. She is well past he use date.

When you gotta get called out... you gotta get called out.

Simple as.

The day we start with the double standards we're f*cked.

[walrus]

No Maxine should get a pass. Trump called for a peaceful March but he got impeached over it. Obviously “peaceful” was a dog whistle to the white racist to attack. Maxines “confrontational” was a dog whistle for whatever supremacist to be peaceful. She already said she would take trump out, no one batted an eye. You guys gotta listen to the true intention not the words. Leave Maxine alone she is head of one of the most powerful committees and Nancy already said she isn’t going to do anything just let it go. You people don’t know how it works here in the US you got a lot to learn.

[Kirkland Laing]

No Maxine should get a pass. Trump called for a peaceful March but he got impeached over it. Obviously “peaceful” was a dog whistle to the white racist to attack. Maxines “confrontational” was a dog whistle for whatever supremacist to be peaceful. She already said she would take trump out, no one batted an eye. You guys gotta listen to the true intention not the words. Leave Maxine alone she is head of one of the most powerful committees and Nancy already said she isn’t going to do anything just let it go. You people don’t know how it works here in the US you got a lot to learn.

Trump mentioned fight, fighting and other forms of violent rhetoric in direct connection with Jamuary the sixth over two hundred and fifty times. He used the word "peaceful" exactly once, on the day of the attempted coup in the middle of a speech mentioning violent rhetoric dozens of times. The speeches immediately preceeding his were filled with violent rhetoric too:

Watch Giuliani Demand ‘Trial by Combat’ to Settle the Election




https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...-election.html


And then the mob attacked congress :

The physical toll on officers who defended the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack by a pro-Trump mob is becoming clearer, with reports by police officials and federal prosecutors indicating that about 140 officers were injured, the head of the Capitol Police officers’ union said.


“I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained head injuries,” Gus Papathanasiou, union chairman, said in a statement Wednesday. “One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake, to name some of the injuries."


[...]



“I’ve talked to officers who have done two tours in Iraq who said this was scarier to them than their time in combat,” acting D.C. police chief Robert J. Contee III said at a news conference earlier this month.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...297_story.html

[TitoFan]

No Maxine should get a pass. Trump called for a peaceful March but he got impeached over it. Obviously “peaceful” was a dog whistle to the white racist to attack. Maxines “confrontational” was a dog whistle for whatever supremacist to be peaceful. She already said she would take trump out, no one batted an eye. You guys gotta listen to the true intention not the words. Leave Maxine alone she is head of one of the most powerful committees and Nancy already said she isn’t going to do anything just let it go. You people don’t know how it works here in the US you got a lot to learn.

Trump mentioned fight, fighting and other forms of violent rhetoric in direct connection with Jamuary the sixth over two hundred and fifty times. He used the word "peaceful" exactly once, on the day of the attempted coup in the middle of a speech mentioning violent rhetoric dozens of times. The speeches immediately preceeding his were filled with violent rhetoric too:

Watch Giuliani Demand ‘Trial by Combat’ to Settle the Election




https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...-election.html


And then the mob attacked congress :

The physical toll on officers who defended the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack by a pro-Trump mob is becoming clearer, with reports by police officials and federal prosecutors indicating that about 140 officers were injured, the head of the Capitol Police officers’ union said.


“I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained head injuries,” Gus Papathanasiou, union chairman, said in a statement Wednesday. “One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake, to name some of the injuries."


[...]



“I’ve talked to officers who have done two tours in Iraq who said this was scarier to them than their time in combat,” acting D.C. police chief Robert J. Contee III said at a news conference earlier this month.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...297_story.html

Trump has always known his audience.

Attack dog trainers spend months getting them ready... then only have to give an imperceptible signal... and the dog does the rest.

Trump spent months stoking the fires with his bogus election fraud claims.

He really didn't have to say much else to get the mob to attack the Capitol.

[walrus]

No Maxine should get a pass. Trump called for a peaceful March but he got impeached over it. Obviously “peaceful” was a dog whistle to the white racist to attack. Maxines “confrontational” was a dog whistle for whatever supremacist to be peaceful. She already said she would take trump out, no one batted an eye. You guys gotta listen to the true intention not the words. Leave Maxine alone she is head of one of the most powerful committees and Nancy already said she isn’t going to do anything just let it go. You people don’t know how it works here in the US you got a lot to learn.

Trump mentioned fight, fighting and other forms of violent rhetoric in direct connection with Jamuary the sixth over two hundred and fifty times. He used the word "peaceful" exactly once, on the day of the attempted coup in the middle of a speech mentioning violent rhetoric dozens of times. The speeches immediately preceeding his were filled with violent rhetoric too:

Watch Giuliani Demand ‘Trial by Combat’ to Settle the Election




https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...-election.html


And then the mob attacked congress :

The physical toll on officers who defended the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack by a pro-Trump mob is becoming clearer, with reports by police officials and federal prosecutors indicating that about 140 officers were injured, the head of the Capitol Police officers’ union said.


“I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained head injuries,” Gus Papathanasiou, union chairman, said in a statement Wednesday. “One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake, to name some of the injuries."


[...]



“I’ve talked to officers who have done two tours in Iraq who said this was scarier to them than their time in combat,” acting D.C. police chief Robert J. Contee III said at a news conference earlier this month.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...297_story.html

The main thing here is Maxine isn’t bothered. I think we all agree Maxine did nothing wrong. #maxinespeaksformetoo it’s kinda hard explaining the media’s presentation and selecting outrage to people who don’t live in the US everyday of their lives and have to see the divisiveness stirred up by politicians and media but that’s not the case with Maxine. She did nothing wrong and should face no penalties (as if) we should just lock this thread #savemaxine she did nothing wrong

[Kirkland Laing]

No Maxine should get a pass. Trump called for a peaceful March but he got impeached over it. Obviously “peaceful” was a dog whistle to the white racist to attack. Maxines “confrontational” was a dog whistle for whatever supremacist to be peaceful. She already said she would take trump out, no one batted an eye. You guys gotta listen to the true intention not the words. Leave Maxine alone she is head of one of the most powerful committees and Nancy already said she isn’t going to do anything just let it go. You people don’t know how it works here in the US you got a lot to learn.

Trump mentioned fight, fighting and other forms of violent rhetoric in direct connection with Jamuary the sixth over two hundred and fifty times. He used the word "peaceful" exactly once, on the day of the attempted coup in the middle of a speech mentioning violent rhetoric dozens of times. The speeches immediately preceeding his were filled with violent rhetoric too:

Watch Giuliani Demand ‘Trial by Combat’ to Settle the Election




https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...-election.html


And then the mob attacked congress :

The physical toll on officers who defended the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack by a pro-Trump mob is becoming clearer, with reports by police officials and federal prosecutors indicating that about 140 officers were injured, the head of the Capitol Police officers’ union said.


“I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained head injuries,” Gus Papathanasiou, union chairman, said in a statement Wednesday. “One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake, to name some of the injuries."


[...]



“I’ve talked to officers who have done two tours in Iraq who said this was scarier to them than their time in combat,” acting D.C. police chief Robert J. Contee III said at a news conference earlier this month.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...297_story.html

The main thing here is Maxine isn’t bothered. I think we all agree Maxine did nothing wrong. #maxinespeaksformetoo it’s kinda hard explaining the media’s presentation and selecting outrage to people who don’t live in the US everyday of their lives and have to see the divisiveness stirred up by politicians and media but that’s not the case with Maxine. She did nothing wrong and should face no penalties (as if) we should just lock this thread #savemaxine she did nothing wrong

I already said she could be booted out of office tomorrow as far as I'm concerned. I think any public official who uses rhetoric that could incite violence in any kind of controversial situation should be thrown out og office by their peers. I'm fine with Maxine getting the boot. Are you fine with all the GOP senators and congresspeople who said far worse getting the boot as well?




This fucker would have to go along with Ted Cruz and a bunch of others. That's just senators. Would you agree? Anybody on the Democratic side you think should go along with Maxine?

[SlimTrae]

Auntie Maxine goes way too far at times. She is well past he use date.

expiration: decade ago.




























































minimum.

[Kirkland Laing]

Fucking damn right. Fucking sickening.
And then peeps wanna say there should be no riots.

Martin Luther King: "The language of unheard voices is rioting."

Yeah, the Let Them Eat Cake crowd could never relate to that.

Oh wait, but if you ask them to wear a mask.....

@Master it’s not always a unanimous decision required it’s not always even 12 jurors. It can vary by state but 12 and unanimous is the standard. The bar was meant to be set high. I think it was James Madison who said “I’d rather see 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man go to jail” that is paraphrased and I’m not sure it was Madison, too lazy to look it up right now. One can also request just a judge hear the case and make a decision. In this case think of the jurors position. Let’s just say they consider a not guilty verdict. They live in the area and aware that shit will burn if they don’t convict. Mind you I’m not saying the dude is innocent. I wasn’t at the trial. I don’t think Maxine waters comments were helpful to the case, it is grounds for a possible appeal.

yes its a possible appeal for sure. He'll be guilty this time and next year it'll be appealed and he'll get off. A severed bloody pig's head was left at the house of a juror and shots were fired at National Guardsmen a mile from where Waters was calling for violence, a mere 20 minutes after her incitement. Words matter. She will be held accountable. Should be removed from Congress for sure. Funny thing is she's jeopardized her own position, and this case as well. The judge was very, VERY clear about the appeal potential. Maxine Waters, low IQ forever. Trump? Genius.

Well apparently it is fine when Dr Martin Luther King says it, it is fine but when Maxine Waters says it then "She will be held accountable".

It is laughable that the same people insisting the Trump's words were in no way responsible for the idiots storming the Capitol are now so self righteously insisting Walters be held accountable for something that did not even happen.

Nobody is comparing her to Martin Luther King but her words come from the same place, and that sense of frustration at the real injustice faced is nothing like the empty belly aching of spoilt White boys when Daddy Trump sold them all out.

All of the civil rights tactics were confrontational. It was a stupid choice of words though, easy to twist it into making it look like she's wanting to start violence.

I'm fine with kicking her out of congress though provided we can kick out all the Republicans who used far worse rhetoric. I'll settle with going back to the November election. There would be over a dozen GOP senators losing their office starting with Ted Cruz, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee and a bunch of others. Well over a dozen probably. Got to be over a hundred congresscritters who either have worse rhetoric or signed up to a bunch of statements that contained far worse rhetoric. Only a handful of them even criticised the fucking Duck Dynasty insurrection attempt.

Not to mention the disgraced former president.