So if AJ v Fury doesn’t happen, whose fault is it?

[Master]

Fury for not paying Wilder the step a side money.

[Mark TKO]

There's an option missing - Boxing's

[nuggetdotcom]

Sad state of affairs if an alphabet sponsored judge calls it, and within days £20m is being talked about as step aside money. Firstly you would think that the promoters could pay enough to the right legal eagles to negotiate fight/rematch clauses, secondly with figures like £20M floating around for a mickey mouse alphabet like the WBO it makes you wonder how much the boys split it. I dare say that Wilder will be happy with this step aside, minus the judges bung, because he will never get another big money fight, because he couldn't box kippers!

Sorry to sit on the fence

[Spicoli]

Fury. Apparently dominating and beating Wilder literally senseless just wasn't wide enough. Some of it is on us too being led to the trough with date, site and this court anchor all up in the air still. Knew Usyk was mandatory and there was talk of dropping it or not. And that Saudi money was blinding across the board. But leave it to boxing to lack the knack to move along and build to in-demand match ups. Truth is AJ has earned it back. Fury has earned it back. Wilder not so much but 'tell it the judge' . Either way Wilder wins the lottery with another guarantee.

[Denilson3.0]

If Don King was running boxing or he was number 1 promoter this fight would be done.

Say what you want about him. He got the fights over the line. He didn't fk about. Look at his legacy. Look at his history. He made sure fighters fought in their prime.

[Beanz]

Just read several people on other social media insisting that this is somehow AJ's fault and is an example of him 'pulling a sly one to avoid fighting Fury'.

Beyond mental.

A bit like all the people who for years called Fury 'a useless pikey' now insisting he is the people's champion and claiming Joshua is a racist manufactured product.

Seriously cringe-worthy.

[Beanz]

No option for Uncle Bob then? (:

In the last 48hrs he has said

"We're not paying Wilder to step aside," Arum told Mark Kriegel of ESPN. "It's better to get rid of him and go about our business. We can make the Fury-Joshua fight for November or December."

And also

Bob Arum calls the arbitrators ruling on Fury-Wilder a "preposterous decision." Says the plan is to move ahead with Fury-Joshua in August and try to sell Wilder on facing the winner in November/December.

This is after him claiming the AJ/Fury fight was 'a mirage' and the Hearn was trying to squeeze the last big money fight out of AJ before the matchroom/Sky contracts run out and really it was a way to squirm out of facing Usyk.

[SlimTrae]

If Don King was running boxing or he was number 1 promoter this fight would be done.

Say what you want about him. He got the fights over the line. He didn't fk about. Look at his legacy. Look at his history. He made sure fighters fought in their prime.

As much as I dislike Con King it is based on what fighters said of him & not of his fight promoting. For myself, yeah, no one stacked cards like King. You're right!


So few complaints of fights not made during Don's era, I think we could fit all [should have been fights] during his run in a sentence or two.

[Master]

Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury tipped to face Usyk and Wilder humiliation - 'Then what?'

Two-time heavyweight champion Shannon Briggs has suggested that Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury could lose their proposed fights against Oleksandr Usyk and Deontay Wilder respectively, throwing the British pair's future unification bout into disarray. Joshua and Fury came tantalisingly close to agreeing a deal to face off in August for all the marbles, but the latter's obligation to entertain Wilder for a third time ultimately poured cold water on the possibility of a blockbuster clash this summer.

The event was scheduled to take place in Saudi Arabia, with Matchroom supremo Eddie Hearn claiming that a brand-new stadium would be constructed for the sole purpose of playing host.

As a result, Joshua has been ordered to fight Usyk, who is the mandatory challenger to the Watford-born champion's WBO strap.

Meanwhile, Fury will trade blows with Wilder once again, with their trilogy bout pencilled in for July 24 as the American challenger looks to regain the WBC title he lost to the 'Gypsy King' last year.

The 35-year-old was knocked out in the seventh round 15 months ago after being forced to settle for a draw at the end of their first fight, but Briggs has claimed that his compatriot has every chance of redeeming himself at the third time of asking.

"Fury might have got the wrong idea," the 49-year-old told Sky Sports. "If this guy knocks out Fury, then what? It is possible. Will there be a fourth fight?

"Fury can't sleep on Wilder. We've got to look at this for what it is, a 200lbs man? With those skinny legs he shouldn't hit that hard!

"But he hits sickly hard. It isn't normal to hit that hard. But he can't fight backing up."

Briggs also gave his backing to Usyk ahead of the former cruiserweight champion's bout with Joshua, declaring that an upset could be on the cards if the fight stretches into the later rounds.

The Ukrainian challenger will go into the event off the back of a dominant victory over Derek Chisora in October.

"The fight to get ready for is Usyk vs Wilder! We might have to get ready for that," he added.

"Tough, tough, tough fight. A guy like that? Who can work like that? He is a king-sized Vasyl Lomachenko.

"As the rounds go on, he gets stronger. The best chance for AJ is to catch him early. AJ is strong early, Usyk is strong late.

"This is a dangerous fight, a tough fight. This Usyk is different, man. This is AJ's toughest fight, equally as tough as AJ vs Fury.

"If the ring is big, he will be hard to catch. He gets stronger as the rounds go on so, what happens is, he starts pushing you downhill.

"He has work rate and he's southpaw. He can sneak shots in. He has so much energy, he throws so many punches which aren't all hurting you, but it's the punches that you don't see.

"His condition goes up and up, and he runs you into the ground."

Joshua previously tasted defeat at the hands of Andy Ruiz Jr back in 2019 before avenging the result six months later to regain his heavyweight titles.

The 31-year-old followed up with an impressive victory over Kubrat Pulev in December, delivering the knockout blow in the ninth round to thwart the spirited Russian's progress at Wembley's SSE Arena.

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[Mark TKO]

Fury for not paying Wilder the step a side money.

Seriously?? Would you pay someone 20 million step aside money when he'd hijacked you last minute. Fuck I would.

You'd like to think theyd drop the belts and fight to be called the best and kick the bodies in the bollocks. I know it won't happen but it should. The titles will soon be fragmented regardless anyway

[Master]

Fury for not paying Wilder the step a side money.

Seriously?? Would you pay someone 20 million step aside money when he'd hijacked you last minute. Fuck I would.

You'd like to think theyd drop the belts and fight to be called the best and kick the bodies in the bollocks. I know it won't happen but it should. The titles will soon be fragmented regardless anyway

Becoming undisputed heavyweight champion rarely happens, especially now with the high number of alphabet bodies that exist. It is a once in a generation opportunity which needs to be grabbed and may never happen again for both fighters.

I blamed AJ himself for not agreeing to unify and become undisputed when he had a chance against Wilder which allowed Fury to come from the wilderness to get the shot. AJ paid a fortune to Charles Martin because he knew it would be worth it.

Fury should negotiate hard with Wilder but ultimately pay him off. I am sure Wilder wants no part of Fury anyway.

Once you become undisputed champion you can drop the titles anyway so whatever Wilder agrees to accept will be worth it.

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