Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[Beanz]

At this point in time you are just a pair of pointy high heeled boots sticking out from underneath Mount Everest. You have been buried by the evidence and are still insisting that other people prove that the 350 trillion pound paper weight that has buried you is real.

so you got nothing. just as i expected. i'm not asking other people. i am talking to you right now & asking what you have done to know & prove that your belief that convid is a virus caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces. all you can do is yap your gums because you don't know & can't prove your belief to be true. still waiting for you to tell me how you isolated convid

I have over the last 18 months taken numerous LFT and PCR tests and yet now the one time I am experiencing all the classic Covid symptoms both the LFT and PCR tests confirm that I have covid. THey until this point have all come back negative. THat is one hell of a coincidence considering I undertook the LFT tests and the PCR test was submitted to a remote lab. Even more remarkable is the fact that my wife who does not have any symptoms had a negative LFT and PCR test taken on the same days as mine. You could look at her negative results, matching her lack of symptoms as some kind of control.

It has nothing to do with YOU. YOU are irelevant. Your claim that Titofan "you have had the vaccine so you have a bias & are unable to even think that you could be wrong" proves how narrowminded and inflexible your own thinking is, and how little you are able to use any kind of common sense or empathy for other people.

I have plenty of friends and family who chose not to be vaccinated but none of them are stupid enough to claim covid doesn't exist. You assume that anyone not agreeing with you must somehow be gullible and have a weird all encompassing complete trust of both the medical, pharmaceutical and governmental organisations that you think you are alone in questioning. That could not be further from the truth, but your willingness to swallow the Kool Aid means that you have to think in that kind of binary idiotic way to justify your own lack of curiosity.

We all live in the real world and don't have the luxury of positing hypothetical bullshit.

Now answer TitoFans question.

[Mark TKO]

I've only tested positive on one lft test despite taking a few and a couple when pcr positive.

I'm clear now so went out for a walk this afternoon. Knackered me out. Just read that you can be fatigued for 2 to 3 weeks after. Mrs was a couple of days behind me and still faint line on lft test.

I don't think we've peaked yet here.

[TIC]

At this point in time you are just a pair of pointy high heeled boots sticking out from underneath Mount Everest. You have been buried by the evidence and are still insisting that other people prove that the 350 trillion pound paper weight that has buried you is real.

so you got nothing. just as i expected. i'm not asking other people. i am talking to you right now & asking what you have done to know & prove that your belief that convid is a virus caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces. all you can do is yap your gums because you don't know & can't prove your belief to be true. still waiting for you to tell me how you isolated convid

I have over the last 18 months taken numerous LFT and PCR tests and yet now the one time I am experiencing all the classic Covid symptoms both the LFT and PCR tests confirm that I have covid. THey until this point have all come back negative. THat is one hell of a coincidence considering I undertook the LFT tests and the PCR test was submitted to a remote lab. Even more remarkable is the fact that my wife who does not have any symptoms had a negative LFT and PCR test taken on the same days as mine. You could look at her negative results, matching her lack of symptoms as some kind of control.

It has nothing to do with YOU. YOU are irelevant. Your claim that Titofan "you have had the vaccine so you have a bias & are unable to even think that you could be wrong" proves how narrowminded and inflexible your own thinking is, and how little you are able to use any kind of common sense or empathy for other people.

I have plenty of friends and family who chose not to be vaccinated but none of them are stupid enough to claim covid doesn't exist. You assume that anyone not agreeing with you must somehow be gullible and have a weird all encompassing complete trust of both the medical, pharmaceutical and governmental organisations that you think you are alone in questioning. That could not be further from the truth, but your willingness to swallow the Kool Aid means that you have to think in that kind of binary idiotic way to justify your own lack of curiosity.

We all live in the real world and don't have the luxury of positing hypothetical bullshit.

Now answer TitoFans question.

it does have nothing to do wuth me. i'm only interested in how someone know's what they claim is true. titofan has had the vaxx. so i would assume he believes covid is real. so he is starting from that bias. he is free to believe what he wants but that is not proof of how he knows that belief is true. your friends & family believing in convid is not proof that it is true, that's a fallacy spastic. if thirty people stood around & told you grass is purple, doesn't prove it true. you have to keep bringing up other people like your friends & family & anyone not agreeing with me but this is a conversation between you & i & how you know your belief is true. bring anyone else here & i'll discuss it directly with them. are you unable to speak for yourself alone? when i respond to a post i am speaking directly to that person. being gullible & trusting medical, pharmaceutical and governmental organizations is not you proving your claims to be true. yes we live in the real world. so please show me your real world proof of how you isolated covid

[Beanz]

TIC you have yet to provide any evidence that you are not a very gullible teenage idiot. Before you start asking anyone any questions whatsoever, first you have to prove that you are something more than a troll looking to antagonise and then you have to explain why you believe that there is no such thing as the scientific method or medical expertise.

Then you have... and this is not optional... to prove beyond reasonable doubt why the hypothesis of covid being spread by droplets like the flu/common code etc, that has been tested hundreds of times in peer reviewed studies and labs around the globe should be dismissed simply due to your faith based belief in the contrarian fairy.

The floor is yours.

[TIC]

TIC you have yet to provide any evidence that you are not a very gullible teenage idiot. Before you start asking anyone any questions whatsoever, first you have to prove that you are something more than a troll looking to antagonise and then you have to explain why you believe that there is no such thing as the scientific method or medical expertise.

Then you have... and this is not optional... to prove beyond reasonable doubt why the hypothesis of covid being spread by droplets like the flu/common code etc, that has been tested hundreds of times in peer reviewed studies and labs around the globe should be dismissed simply due to your faith based belief in the contrarian fairy.

The floor is yours.

please show me the scientific method you used to isolate convid. medical expertise is a fallacy. just because so called experts say something is not you proving your claims to be true seven times spergy. show me how you proved your hypothesis to be true. i am asking you spergy. believing what others say they have done is not you proving those claims true. is there a reason you can't just provide me with proof of how you know your claims are true? just speak from your own proofs as everything else is just beliefs. just tell me how you know your claims are true & what you have done to prove that

[Dark Lord Al]

To sum up, some of us have happily gone with the medical advice and had the jab's, some have decided not to have the Jab.
So is there any point arguing ?

[TIC]

To sum up, some of us have happily gone with the medical advice and had the jab's, some have decided not to have the Jab.
So is there any point arguing ?

to be more accurate, some have chosen to believe what others have told them & others have not. there is no point arguing unless you can prove your claims to be true

[Dark Lord Al]

To sum up, some of us have happily gone with the medical advice and had the jab's, some have decided not to have the Jab.
So is there any point arguing ?

to be more accurate, some have chosen to believe what others have told them & others have not. there is no point arguing unless you can prove your claims to be true

Not at all I for one do not have to prove anything to you, I mean who exactly do you think you are?
We are on a boxing forum, or is it so much more than than to you ?

[Beanz]

TIC you have yet to provide any evidence that you are not a very gullible teenage idiot. Before you start asking anyone any questions whatsoever, first you have to prove that you are something more than a troll looking to antagonise and then you have to explain why you believe that there is no such thing as the scientific method or medical expertise.

Then you have... and this is not optional... to prove beyond reasonable doubt why the hypothesis of covid being spread by droplets like the flu/common code etc, that has been tested hundreds of times in peer reviewed studies and labs around the globe should be dismissed simply due to your faith based belief in the contrarian fairy.

The floor is yours.

please show me the scientific method you used to isolate convid. medical expertise is a fallacy. just because so called experts say something is not you proving your claims to be true seven times spergy. show me how you proved your hypothesis to be true. i am asking you spergy. believing what others say they have done is not you proving those claims true. is there a reason you can't just provide me with proof of how you know your claims are true? just speak from your own proofs as everything else is just beliefs. just tell me how you know your claims are true & what you have done to prove that

Answer the questions.

You can't can you?

[TIC]

TIC you have yet to provide any evidence that you are not a very gullible teenage idiot. Before you start asking anyone any questions whatsoever, first you have to prove that you are something more than a troll looking to antagonise and then you have to explain why you believe that there is no such thing as the scientific method or medical expertise.

Then you have... and this is not optional... to prove beyond reasonable doubt why the hypothesis of covid being spread by droplets like the flu/common code etc, that has been tested hundreds of times in peer reviewed studies and labs around the globe should be dismissed simply due to your faith based belief in the contrarian fairy.

The floor is yours.

please show me the scientific method you used to isolate convid. medical expertise is a fallacy. just because so called experts say something is not you proving your claims to be true seven times spergy. show me how you proved your hypothesis to be true. i am asking you spergy. believing what others say they have done is not you proving those claims true. is there a reason you can't just provide me with proof of how you know your claims are true? just speak from your own proofs as everything else is just beliefs. just tell me how you know your claims are true & what you have done to prove that

Answer the questions.

You can't can you?

why can't you show me the scientific method you used to isolate convid?

[TIC]

[Master]

This vaccine does not provide 100% protection from catching covid 19 but it does provide protection. Take the jab.

[TIC]

This vaccine does not provide 100% protection from catching covid 19 but it does provide protection. Take the jab.

protection from your belief? how did you prove you belief to be real? also sounds like you are giving medical advise

[TitoFan]

titofan has had the vaxx. so i would assume he believes covid is real. so he is starting from that bias. he is free to believe what he wants but that is not proof of how he knows that belief is true.

I also stated months ago that I became ill on November of 2020. I had attended a wedding where many people came from stateside, and several members of my family got sick.

I had a fever that lasted a week and a half... something I had never had before.

I lost my senses of smell and taste... something I had never had before.

Coincidentally, fever and losses of taste and smell had long been mentioned as symptoms of COVID-19.

I was tested with the PCR test, the accepted method for COVID testing at the time, and the results came back positive.

It was only in February and March of last year that I decided to become vaccinated.



So you see... to say that upon vaccination, "that's when I started from that bias"... is an incorrect statement on numerous counts.

To be clear, I'm not trying to convince you to change your opinions regarding COVID and the vaccines.

You have a right to believe whatever you want... just like I have a right to keep to my beliefs.

[TIC]

titofan has had the vaxx. so i would assume he believes covid is real. so he is starting from that bias. he is free to believe what he wants but that is not proof of how he knows that belief is true.

I also stated months ago that I became ill on November of 2020. I had attended a wedding where many people came from stateside, and several members of my family got sick.

I had a fever that lasted a week and a half... something I had never had before.

I lost my senses of smell and taste... something I had never had before.

Coincidentally, fever and losses of taste and smell had long been mentioned as symptoms of COVID-19.

I was tested with the PCR test, the accepted method for COVID testing at the time, and the results came back positive.

It was only in February and March of last year that I decided to become vaccinated.



So you see... to say that upon vaccination, "that's when I started from that bias"... is an incorrect statement on numerous counts.

To be clear, I'm not trying to convince you to change your opinions regarding COVID and the vaccines.

You have a right to believe whatever you want... just like I have a right to keep to my beliefs.

you had the vaxx because you believe covid is real. that is the bias you are starting with. instead of starting your investigation from what you know to be true. you do have the right to believe what you want. i'm only interested in claims that can be proven to be true. i'm not trying to convince anyone of anything either. i am merely trying to point out the different between knowing & believing