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At first when I read this thread I thought it was happening but see it's just speculation.

What is the point in this fight ? There's none at all.

Wilder proves nothing by taking it and winning and as for Derek...as I've said before I really like the bloke but he has limited ability and I just don't get how he keeps getting these fights. He's game for sure and will guarantee the fans he will go for it but is 7-7 his last 14 fights and lost a third of all his fights ??
The fight doesn’t make sense from a “super fight” perspective, as it isn’t the same caliber as Fury-Usyk, Fury-AJ, Wilder-AJ…etc. It does make sense for Wilder and his team, however, for the following reasons:
1. The biggest reason is what you stated- Chisora has a big personality but is beatable so he offers the perfect risk vs reward ratio. Deontay may have lost something in the Fury trilogy so Chisora represents that perfect/sweet spot that offers a good payday yet remains beatable for future paydays even if Wilder has slipped/faded.
2. Wilder suffered horrific beatings in his last two fights with Fury, the last thing he should do at this point is get in the ring with a top fighter. Wilder needs to get his confidence back with a couple of knockouts before stepping in with the top fighters in the division- stepping right back in with Usyk or someone like that only hastens the decline.
3. True boxing fans won’t be excited for this fight and will recognize it for what it is (comeback/hype fight), but casual fans will love it and it will sell. Chisora is volatile prior to a fight and creates animosity with his opponents by insulting them and often becoming physical with them. Wilder can be volatile as well and honestly behaves a little erratically and unstable at times- casual fans will eat this up and numbers will be good.

Good points, as usual... but I think #3 is a bit harsh. I think there are other glaring things that separate the true boxing fans from the casuals. This IMO... is not necessarily one of them. Again I mention that Wilder had his way with everyone he ever faced until he met Fury. That in of itself shouldn't damn the guy for life. Every fighter has that one other fighter they just can't get past. Now, if someone is inclined to dismiss every single one of Wilder's previous opponents as taxi cab drivers... then I guess his losses to Fury were nothing more than Deontay finally facing a real professional fighter.

I think no one here argues in favor of Wilder being anywhere near a good boxer. But IMHO, he's tried mightily to fix some of the deficiencies in his game. The fact he tried several different approaches on Fury is testament to that. Many fighters have been one-trick ponies all the way to the end.

Let's think of the heavyweight division for a moment. This isn't exactly an Ali-Frazier-Foreman era. Wilder's already faced credible opposition in Stiverne and Ortiz. Sure... holes can be poked in ANY opponent. Just ask anyone here. But conjecture on how Deontay would now do against a Ruiz, a Chisora, a Parker, even a Joshua.... is just that... conjecture.

Casuals "eat up" hype, carefully picked opposition, and "A" side/ "B" side B.S. That... again IMHO... is what truly separates real boxing fans from the casuals.

I think we're burying Wilder before he ever gets the chance to step into the ring again. BTW... point # 2 is right on point.