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    Everybody seems to want Canelo vs Charlo... but at what weight??

    I think Canelo beats anyone from 160 on down. Why? Weight gain... that's why.

    Jermall has fought exclusively at middle. He's never fought above middle. Any bets on how much Charlo would be outweighed at fight night? I'm tired of these 30-pound differences courtesy of rehydration and weight shenanigans.

    At the same weight... Charlo might have a fighting chance. With a bulked up Canelo in there... not so much.



    Someone said they'd like to see Canelo fight Bivol?

    Yeah... and I would like to hit the lottery tomorrow and win a million dollars. Neither is going to happen. Not Bivol... not Beterbiev.



    So sign me up for Canelo vs Benavidez. As much as I've always hated the "Canelo Hype"..... Benavidez is a plodder and I think he gets taken out by Canelo.

    Gotta admit that the man finally found his niche at 168.

    From there he can pot shot at guys both below (weight advantages) and above (cherry picking).......... when the time is right.

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    Default Re: Canelo vs Charlo?

    canelo should go straight for trevor bryan next
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    Default Re: Canelo vs Charlo?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    canelo should go straight for trevor bryan next

    You should also post this in the "lame zebra" thread.

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    Default Re: Canelo vs Charlo?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Everybody seems to want Canelo vs Charlo... but at what weight??

    I think Canelo beats anyone from 160 on down. Why? Weight gain... that's why.

    Jermall has fought exclusively at middle. He's never fought above middle. Any bets on how much Charlo would be outweighed at fight night? I'm tired of these 30-pound differences courtesy of rehydration and weight shenanigans.

    At the same weight... Charlo might have a fighting chance. With a bulked up Canelo in there... not so much.



    Someone said they'd like to see Canelo fight Bivol?

    Yeah... and I would like to hit the lottery tomorrow and win a million dollars. Neither is going to happen. Not Bivol... not Beterbiev.



    So sign me up for Canelo vs Benavidez. As much as I've always hated the "Canelo Hype"..... Benavidez is a plodder and I think he gets taken out by Canelo.

    Gotta admit that the man finally found his niche at 168.

    From there he can pot shot at guys both below (weight advantages) and above (cherry picking).......... when the time is right.
    Tito! You are usually the one who has to remind me to not be so harsh…!! This is a rare occasion where I disagree with you, respectfully. I feel like Charlo is a big middleweight- much larger framed and longer than Canelo. I also feel like Charlo is explosive and more athletic, which is why I see this as a good fight. I would like to see Charlo fight a higher level of fighter before the Canelo fight (Danny Jacobs, Andrade…etc.), but will take what I can get at this point. If Charlo loses I think it will be due more to lack of experience than size disadvantage

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    Default Re: Canelo vs Charlo?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Everybody seems to want Canelo vs Charlo... but at what weight??

    I think Canelo beats anyone from 160 on down. Why? Weight gain... that's why.

    Jermall has fought exclusively at middle. He's never fought above middle. Any bets on how much Charlo would be outweighed at fight night? I'm tired of these 30-pound differences courtesy of rehydration and weight shenanigans.

    At the same weight... Charlo might have a fighting chance. With a bulked up Canelo in there... not so much.



    Someone said they'd like to see Canelo fight Bivol?

    Yeah... and I would like to hit the lottery tomorrow and win a million dollars. Neither is going to happen. Not Bivol... not Beterbiev.



    So sign me up for Canelo vs Benavidez. As much as I've always hated the "Canelo Hype"..... Benavidez is a plodder and I think he gets taken out by Canelo.

    Gotta admit that the man finally found his niche at 168.

    From there he can pot shot at guys both below (weight advantages) and above (cherry picking).......... when the time is right.
    Tito! You are usually the one who has to remind me to not be so harsh…!! This is a rare occasion where I disagree with you, respectfully. I feel like Charlo is a big middleweight- much larger framed and longer than Canelo. I also feel like Charlo is explosive and more athletic, which is why I see this as a good fight. I would like to see Charlo fight a higher level of fighter before the Canelo fight (Danny Jacobs, Andrade…etc.), but will take what I can get at this point. If Charlo loses I think it will be due more to lack of experience than size disadvantage



    @mikeeod ... and you're one of those guys here whose boxing insight I totally respect. I see your point... and I'd like nothing more than for you to be right. Believe me... I'd gladly lose that bet.

    Charlo IS very athletic. Much more so than some of Canelo's recent opponents have proven to be. (The Callum Smith is still seared in my mind because of how woeful an effort it was and how Callum eagerly gave away all of his size advantages in losing that fight in lopsided fashion ). Charlo, I agree would present more of a challenge to Canelo. My problem is the weight gain. I just don't remember having to worry about 25-30 pound differences on fight night in previous years. Dehydration and subsequent rehydration of course have been part of the boxing scene since Day One. But some fighters (including Canelo) have taken it to a new level. It would be interesting to see their individual weights come fight night. Even if as you say, Charlo has the bigger frame... somehow Canelo manages to always look bigger on the day of the fight. I like fighters to meet under equal circumstances, as undoable as that sometimes sounds.

    I'm by far the biggest Canelo detractor (and hater of the Canelo hype machine) on the forum... but even I have to admit Canelo's got a great set of whiskers. Which is why he can brush off timid offenses as he concentrates on his own offense. Pot shots aren't going to hurt Canelo. It's going to take a sustained attack from someone who (hopefully the same size or bigger) throws punches offensively... not defensively.

    Reminds me of the JCC Jr. days, when he used to outweigh his opponents by a whole bunch. It wasn't until he met Fonfara (finally a guy just as big as he) that he got what he would've gotten earlier against a same-sized fighter.

    Well... let's hope the Charlo fight comes to pass. He certainly has the natural gifts and skill set to go up against Canelo. If they do fight, I'll be a nervous wreck.

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    Default Re: Canelo vs Charlo?

    caleb would beat jermall. jermall is just sparring for canelo
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