Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

[Master]

denialism

That is exactly what you have.

Margarito cheated and was caught out against Shane. The only reason he did not get in the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught out. That does not mean he did not cheat. He was sanctioned for the fight.

How much clearer do you want it?

Is this your convoluted way of saying Canelo is not a cheat when he was caught using PED?

i'm not asking about before a fight. i am asking about actual combat

Who cares? He was cheating and got caught before he caused illegal damage.

i care & that is why i asked the question. why is it so hard for you to answer the question of what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in?

Why do you care? He cheated and was caught out. So technically he did not hit Shane, so what? Was Margarito going to not fight when the bell rang for the first round? Of course not.

[TIC]

denialism

That is exactly what you have.

Margarito cheated and was caught out against Shane. The only reason he did not get in the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught out. That does not mean he did not cheat. He was sanctioned for the fight.

How much clearer do you want it?

Is this your convoluted way of saying Canelo is not a cheat when he was caught using PED?

i'm not asking about before a fight. i am asking about actual combat

Who cares? He was cheating and got caught before he caused illegal damage.

i care & that is why i asked the question. why is it so hard for you to answer the question of what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in?

Why do you care? He cheated and was caught out. So technically he did not hit Shane, so what? Was Margarito going to not fight when the bell rang for the first round? Of course not.

i care because there is a distinction between my question & what you are saying. i asked what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. antonio may have been caught allegedly trying to cheat before the actual fight, actual combat, but that has nothing to do with my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? you have already admitted officially none, the conversation should be over

[Master]

denialism

That is exactly what you have.

Margarito cheated and was caught out against Shane. The only reason he did not get in the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught out. That does not mean he did not cheat. He was sanctioned for the fight.

How much clearer do you want it?

Is this your convoluted way of saying Canelo is not a cheat when he was caught using PED?

i'm not asking about before a fight. i am asking about actual combat

Who cares? He was cheating and got caught before he caused illegal damage.

i care & that is why i asked the question. why is it so hard for you to answer the question of what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in?

Why do you care? He cheated and was caught out. So technically he did not hit Shane, so what? Was Margarito going to not fight when the bell rang for the first round? Of course not.

i care because there is a distinction between my question & what you are saying. i asked what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. antonio may have been caught allegedly trying to cheat before the actual fight, actual combat, but that has nothing to do with my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? you have already admitted officially none, the conversation should be over

There should be no distinction. It is irrelevant. He cheated whether it was in the dressing room or after the first bell. He still cheated. Why does it matter if he did it in combat or not?

[TitoFan]

TIC why do you insist on splitting meaningless hairs for the sake of trying (unsuccessfully) to win an argument??

Are you really so hard up for attention that you're willing to say the guy's not a cheater because he was caught trying to cheat just before the fight was scheduled to start?

That smacks of desperation, and a comical lack of anything of substance to say.

Is this how you conduct EVERY argument in your life? Just curious, because it's maddening as hell.

(Well... it WOULD be... if some of us really gave a shit).

The point is... inside you're very much aware that this scumbag is a cheater... and we all know that you know.

And yet... that you're playing word games just to make a point is pretty much fukking worthless, as far as I'm concerned.

[Rotten Apple]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

[Master]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.

If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?

[TIC]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.

If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?

that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine

[TitoFan]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

Yet his legacy is that of a cheater. And there's nothing you can do about it... so how's 'bout you crawl back into that hole you seem to creep out of every now and then?

(I'm surprised you're not bringing up Verdejo this time. You seem to have fascination with the guy).

[Rotten Apple]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

Yet his legacy is that of a cheater. And there's nothing you can do about it... so how's 'bout you crawl back into that hole you seem to creep out of every now and then?

(I'm surprised you're not bringing up Verdejo this time. You seem to have fascination with the guy).

I joined this forum way back in 2006. I've always read more than I post. And I remember all the online blow jobs and hand jobs you would give Verdejo. How he was the next great Puto Rican champion. It was only a matter of time. Nobody was in love with Verdejo more than you. You even brought him up in this unrelated thread

[TIC]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

Yet his legacy is that of a cheater. And there's nothing you can do about it... so how's 'bout you crawl back into that hole you seem to creep out of every now and then?

(I'm surprised you're not bringing up Verdejo this time. You seem to have fascination with the guy).

i'm not interested in what you think of his legacy. i'm interested in what fight, actual combat antonio cheated in. it has been admitted in this thread that it is officially none. now based on that i feel someone who used peds for combat is a much worse cheater but someone like shane who admitted to using peds for combat can get into the hall of fame. antonio shouldn't be held to different standards, especially as admitted here it is officially no combat that he actually cheated in

[TIC]

TIC why do you insist on splitting meaningless hairs for the sake of trying (unsuccessfully) to win an argument??

Are you really so hard up for attention that you're willing to say the guy's not a cheater because he was caught trying to cheat just before the fight was scheduled to start?

That smacks of desperation, and a comical lack of anything of substance to say.

Is this how you conduct EVERY argument in your life? Just curious, because it's maddening as hell.

(Well... it WOULD be... if some of us really gave a shit).

The point is... inside you're very much aware that this scumbag is a cheater... and we all know that you know.

And yet... that you're playing word games just to make a point is pretty much fukking worthless, as far as I'm concerned.

i asked about what fight, actual combat antonio cheated in. you already know the truth as has been admitted in this thread that it is officially none. i didn't say anything about antonio being a cheater or not. just what combat did he cheat in. the point is you can't accept the truth

[TitoFan]

TIC why do you insist on splitting meaningless hairs for the sake of trying (unsuccessfully) to win an argument??

Are you really so hard up for attention that you're willing to say the guy's not a cheater because he was caught trying to cheat just before the fight was scheduled to start?

That smacks of desperation, and a comical lack of anything of substance to say.

Is this how you conduct EVERY argument in your life? Just curious, because it's maddening as hell.

(Well... it WOULD be... if some of us really gave a shit).

The point is... inside you're very much aware that this scumbag is a cheater... and we all know that you know.

And yet... that you're playing word games just to make a point is pretty much fukking worthless, as far as I'm concerned.

i asked about what fight, actual combat antonio cheated in. you already know the truth as has been admitted in this thread that it is officially none. i didn't say anything about antonio being a cheater or not. just what combat did he cheat in. the point is you can't accept the truth

That's all we needed to know.
Thanks.

[TIC]

TIC why do you insist on splitting meaningless hairs for the sake of trying (unsuccessfully) to win an argument??

Are you really so hard up for attention that you're willing to say the guy's not a cheater because he was caught trying to cheat just before the fight was scheduled to start?

That smacks of desperation, and a comical lack of anything of substance to say.

Is this how you conduct EVERY argument in your life? Just curious, because it's maddening as hell.

(Well... it WOULD be... if some of us really gave a shit).

The point is... inside you're very much aware that this scumbag is a cheater... and we all know that you know.

And yet... that you're playing word games just to make a point is pretty much fukking worthless, as far as I'm concerned.

i asked about what fight, actual combat antonio cheated in. you already know the truth as has been admitted in this thread that it is officially none. i didn't say anything about antonio being a cheater or not. just what combat did he cheat in. the point is you can't accept the truth

That's all we needed to know.
Thanks.

because it wasn't the question i asked. you avoided the question i asked because you can't handle the truth

[TIC]

denialism

That is exactly what you have.

Margarito cheated and was caught out against Shane. The only reason he did not get in the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught out. That does not mean he did not cheat. He was sanctioned for the fight.

How much clearer do you want it?

Is this your convoluted way of saying Canelo is not a cheat when he was caught using PED?

i'm not asking about before a fight. i am asking about actual combat

Who cares? He was cheating and got caught before he caused illegal damage.

i care & that is why i asked the question. why is it so hard for you to answer the question of what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in?

Why do you care? He cheated and was caught out. So technically he did not hit Shane, so what? Was Margarito going to not fight when the bell rang for the first round? Of course not.

i care because there is a distinction between my question & what you are saying. i asked what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. antonio may have been caught allegedly trying to cheat before the actual fight, actual combat, but that has nothing to do with my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? you have already admitted officially none, the conversation should be over

There should be no distinction. It is irrelevant. He cheated whether it was in the dressing room or after the first bell. He still cheated. Why does it matter if he did it in combat or not?

the distinction is in the question i am asking. it is not irrelevant to me. i asked what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it would matter much worse if he was caught during or after a fight with illegal wraps