NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

[Primo Carnera]

NOW can we stop this disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 at the P4P list? The disrespect was sickening, tbth...

I always felt Canelo had a lot to prove before he could have been placed at #1 p4p... But everyone serious in the game knew the #1 p4p is Terance Bud Crawford. Stop this disrespect on the man and put him #1...

1. Crawford
2. Spence
3. Fury
4. Inoue
5.... name the rest of the guys you like.

Fury at 3 ? He’s nowhere near it. He’s no different to many of the World champions in other divisions.
Inoue is #1
Crawford needs to fight and beat Spence and that settles everything.

Anything other than Crawford as #1 is racist.

So I’m racist now, just because I don’t agree with you. Crawford is one of my favourite current fighters, but Inoue has not been given the respect he deserves.
Crawford has been a victim of his previous promoter’s unprofessional work for him. But he signed the contract.
For the record, I believe Crawford is probably the best all round Boxer out there, but you have to create your legacy in the ring.

You mean by doing something like winning 16 championship fights over 3 divisions including undisputed in 1 and about to fight for undisputed in another?

Yeah exactly like, or maybe even do it over 4 divisions like Inoue. Like I said , Inoue is the only one that I possibly put above Bud, but it’s a 50/50 call.
If Crawford fights and beats Spence (which I hope he does tbh) that settles everything.
You’ve said yourself along the lines of “ Spence would be favourite “ I can’t remember exactly what you said. But Crawford needs that fight to put his career right up there where it belongs.
I have absolutely no criticism of Crawford as a boxer whatsoever, just disappointed in his management choices over his career.

you don't have oleksandr above terence?

No, of course not. Usyk is a Wonderful Boxer, with an amazing Amateur record. But it’s got to be judged on the pro career surely? And yes he hoovered up the CW Division with ease, but CW is a notoriously shallow division.
And he’s beaten AJ.
To be honest, even if he beats AJ again, then Fury, I probably still wouldn’t have him at #1.

Usyk won the Olympic gold medal in 2012, he then won his first world title in his tenth fight, when he fought undefeated 26-0 Krzysztof Glowacki in Poland for his WBO belt.

After defending the WBO title three times, including the then undefeated heavyweight contender Michael Hunter, he won WBC belt against undefeated 23-0 Mairis Briedis in his hometown.

Usyk then wins the undisputed title in Russia, against undefeated 26-0 Murat Gassiev.

After that he beat and thankfully retired the great Tony Bellew who had just beaten David Haye twice.

The second greatest Cruiserweight ever.

So what?

[TIC]

NOW can we stop this disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 at the P4P list? The disrespect was sickening, tbth...

I always felt Canelo had a lot to prove before he could have been placed at #1 p4p... But everyone serious in the game knew the #1 p4p is Terance Bud Crawford. Stop this disrespect on the man and put him #1...

1. Crawford
2. Spence
3. Fury
4. Inoue
5.... name the rest of the guys you like.

Fury at 3 ? He’s nowhere near it. He’s no different to many of the World champions in other divisions.
Inoue is #1
Crawford needs to fight and beat Spence and that settles everything.

Anything other than Crawford as #1 is racist.

So I’m racist now, just because I don’t agree with you. Crawford is one of my favourite current fighters, but Inoue has not been given the respect he deserves.
Crawford has been a victim of his previous promoter’s unprofessional work for him. But he signed the contract.
For the record, I believe Crawford is probably the best all round Boxer out there, but you have to create your legacy in the ring.

You mean by doing something like winning 16 championship fights over 3 divisions including undisputed in 1 and about to fight for undisputed in another?

Yeah exactly like, or maybe even do it over 4 divisions like Inoue. Like I said , Inoue is the only one that I possibly put above Bud, but it’s a 50/50 call.
If Crawford fights and beats Spence (which I hope he does tbh) that settles everything.
You’ve said yourself along the lines of “ Spence would be favourite “ I can’t remember exactly what you said. But Crawford needs that fight to put his career right up there where it belongs.
I have absolutely no criticism of Crawford as a boxer whatsoever, just disappointed in his management choices over his career.

you don't have oleksandr above terence?

No, of course not. Usyk is a Wonderful Boxer, with an amazing Amateur record. But it’s got to be judged on the pro career surely? And yes he hoovered up the CW Division with ease, but CW is a notoriously shallow division.
And he’s beaten AJ.
To be honest, even if he beats AJ again, then Fury, I probably still wouldn’t have him at #1.

Usyk won the Olympic gold medal in 2012, he then won his first world title in his tenth fight, when he fought undefeated 26-0 Krzysztof Glowacki in Poland for his WBO belt.

After defending the WBO title three times, including the then undefeated heavyweight contender Michael Hunter, he won WBC belt against undefeated 23-0 Mairis Briedis in his hometown.

Usyk then wins the undisputed title in Russia, against undefeated 26-0 Murat Gassiev.

After that he beat and thankfully retired the great Tony Bellew who had just beaten David Haye twice.

The second greatest Cruiserweight ever.

So what?

so terence's record is very thin

[Primo Carnera]

NOW can we stop this disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 at the P4P list? The disrespect was sickening, tbth...

I always felt Canelo had a lot to prove before he could have been placed at #1 p4p... But everyone serious in the game knew the #1 p4p is Terance Bud Crawford. Stop this disrespect on the man and put him #1...

1. Crawford
2. Spence
3. Fury
4. Inoue
5.... name the rest of the guys you like.

Fury at 3 ? He’s nowhere near it. He’s no different to many of the World champions in other divisions.
Inoue is #1
Crawford needs to fight and beat Spence and that settles everything.

Anything other than Crawford as #1 is racist.

So I’m racist now, just because I don’t agree with you. Crawford is one of my favourite current fighters, but Inoue has not been given the respect he deserves.
Crawford has been a victim of his previous promoter’s unprofessional work for him. But he signed the contract.
For the record, I believe Crawford is probably the best all round Boxer out there, but you have to create your legacy in the ring.

You mean by doing something like winning 16 championship fights over 3 divisions including undisputed in 1 and about to fight for undisputed in another?

Yeah exactly like, or maybe even do it over 4 divisions like Inoue. Like I said , Inoue is the only one that I possibly put above Bud, but it’s a 50/50 call.
If Crawford fights and beats Spence (which I hope he does tbh) that settles everything.
You’ve said yourself along the lines of “ Spence would be favourite “ I can’t remember exactly what you said. But Crawford needs that fight to put his career right up there where it belongs.
I have absolutely no criticism of Crawford as a boxer whatsoever, just disappointed in his management choices over his career.

you don't have oleksandr above terence?

No, of course not. Usyk is a Wonderful Boxer, with an amazing Amateur record. But it’s got to be judged on the pro career surely? And yes he hoovered up the CW Division with ease, but CW is a notoriously shallow division.
And he’s beaten AJ.
To be honest, even if he beats AJ again, then Fury, I probably still wouldn’t have him at #1.

Usyk won the Olympic gold medal in 2012, he then won his first world title in his tenth fight, when he fought undefeated 26-0 Krzysztof Glowacki in Poland for his WBO belt.

After defending the WBO title three times, including the then undefeated heavyweight contender Michael Hunter, he won WBC belt against undefeated 23-0 Mairis Briedis in his hometown.

Usyk then wins the undisputed title in Russia, against undefeated 26-0 Murat Gassiev.

After that he beat and thankfully retired the great Tony Bellew who had just beaten David Haye twice.

The second greatest Cruiserweight ever.

So what?

so terence's record is very thin

Gamboa, Postol , Beltran , Brook,Porter are better names AND better wins than Glowacki , Hunter, Gassiev , Bellew and Chisora.

[TIC]

NOW can we stop this disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 at the P4P list? The disrespect was sickening, tbth...

I always felt Canelo had a lot to prove before he could have been placed at #1 p4p... But everyone serious in the game knew the #1 p4p is Terance Bud Crawford. Stop this disrespect on the man and put him #1...

1. Crawford
2. Spence
3. Fury
4. Inoue
5.... name the rest of the guys you like.

Fury at 3 ? He’s nowhere near it. He’s no different to many of the World champions in other divisions.
Inoue is #1
Crawford needs to fight and beat Spence and that settles everything.

Anything other than Crawford as #1 is racist.

So I’m racist now, just because I don’t agree with you. Crawford is one of my favourite current fighters, but Inoue has not been given the respect he deserves.
Crawford has been a victim of his previous promoter’s unprofessional work for him. But he signed the contract.
For the record, I believe Crawford is probably the best all round Boxer out there, but you have to create your legacy in the ring.

You mean by doing something like winning 16 championship fights over 3 divisions including undisputed in 1 and about to fight for undisputed in another?

Yeah exactly like, or maybe even do it over 4 divisions like Inoue. Like I said , Inoue is the only one that I possibly put above Bud, but it’s a 50/50 call.
If Crawford fights and beats Spence (which I hope he does tbh) that settles everything.
You’ve said yourself along the lines of “ Spence would be favourite “ I can’t remember exactly what you said. But Crawford needs that fight to put his career right up there where it belongs.
I have absolutely no criticism of Crawford as a boxer whatsoever, just disappointed in his management choices over his career.

you don't have oleksandr above terence?

No, of course not. Usyk is a Wonderful Boxer, with an amazing Amateur record. But it’s got to be judged on the pro career surely? And yes he hoovered up the CW Division with ease, but CW is a notoriously shallow division.
And he’s beaten AJ.
To be honest, even if he beats AJ again, then Fury, I probably still wouldn’t have him at #1.

Usyk won the Olympic gold medal in 2012, he then won his first world title in his tenth fight, when he fought undefeated 26-0 Krzysztof Glowacki in Poland for his WBO belt.

After defending the WBO title three times, including the then undefeated heavyweight contender Michael Hunter, he won WBC belt against undefeated 23-0 Mairis Briedis in his hometown.

Usyk then wins the undisputed title in Russia, against undefeated 26-0 Murat Gassiev.

After that he beat and thankfully retired the great Tony Bellew who had just beaten David Haye twice.

The second greatest Cruiserweight ever.

So what?

so terence's record is very thin

Gamboa, Postol , Beltran , Brook,Porter are better names AND better wins than Glowacki , Hunter, Gassiev , Bellew and Chisora.

yuriorkis was a smaller guy. i think viktor is a good win. raymundo was always on the fringe. kell was past it. shawn is a good win. i don't think they are better wins than mairis & aj. murat is a better win. terence has some good wins but oleksandr has fought better opponents

[Spicoli]

I think p4p has become a festering cyst for so many fighters and fans. Really feels like it's cheapened and lost a great deal of any substance and big picture thinking. But of course we knew that when the Ring put Broner at #5 . It's always been subjective but within less than a 1 month span it's a literal flavor of the month now. From 4-30 to 5-22 and then immediately see soooo many insisting Bivol, Stevenson and Charlo just waltz right on to it thus 3 other dropped right off.

They're going to need a bigger list.

[TIC]

I think p4p has become a festering cyst for so many fighters and fans. Really feels like it's cheapened and lost a great deal of any substance and big picture thinking. But of course we knew that when the Ring put Broner at #5 . It's always been subjective but within less than a 1 month span it's a literal flavor of the month now. From 4-30 to 5-22 and then immediately see soooo many insisting Bivol, Stevenson and Charlo just waltz right on to it thus 3 other dropped right off.

They're going to need a bigger list.

you got it. just a bit of fun for me. all the talk around dmitry, shakur & charlo but no love for artur

[TIC]

I think p4p has become a festering cyst for so many fighters and fans. Really feels like it's cheapened and lost a great deal of any substance and big picture thinking. But of course we knew that when the Ring put Broner at #5 . It's always been subjective but within less than a 1 month span it's a literal flavor of the month now. From 4-30 to 5-22 and then immediately see soooo many insisting Bivol, Stevenson and Charlo just waltz right on to it thus 3 other dropped right off.

They're going to need a bigger list.

you got it. just a bit of fun for me. all the talk around dmitry, shakur & charlo but no love for artur

artur now feeling the love