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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    “Fury battering Wilder in the 8th and he can barely stand. His legs are nearly gone.

    6-2

    Fury knocks down an exhausted Wilder in the 10th with a big right hand but fights back hard at the end of the ound. True heart.

    8-2 Fury”

    I wonder whose comments these were on the RBR?
    And this is “THE BEST VERSION” of Wilder?
    Just because he “showed heart”
    He got battered, put on his ass 4 times , could hardly stand up when Fury blew his house down. And according to you , @Master, at the time of the KO , he was down 8 ROUNDS TO 2 !!
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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    I get all the hate for Wilder. He's got poor boxing technique... fed off a bunch of carcasses on the way to the top... and has exhibited poor judgment in the things he says.

    But the fact remains that he got beat by an undefeated fighter who was taller and heavier than him. Something Wilder had not encountered before and probably never will again.

    Fury can also box circles around most of the other boxers that Wilder could foreseeably be matched against. (I still say people take it for granted Deontay would lose to AJ when in actuality it's more of a 50/50 fight).

    There's no telling how Wilder will emerge from the beatings he took. That's anybody's guess.

    But if his head is on right... I'd bet on Wilder to sweep the floor with most of the mediocre contenders out there.

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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I get all the hate for Wilder. He's got poor boxing technique... fed off a bunch of carcasses on the way to the top... and has exhibited poor judgment in the things he says.

    But the fact remains that he got beat by an undefeated fighter who was taller and heavier than him. Something Wilder had not encountered before and probably never will again.

    Fury can also box circles around most of the other boxers that Wilder could foreseeably be matched against. (I still say people take it for granted Deontay would lose to AJ when in actuality it's more of a 50/50 fight).

    There's no telling how Wilder will emerge from the beatings he took. That's anybody's guess.

    But if his head is on right... I'd bet on Wilder to sweep the floor with most of the mediocre contenders out there.
    i'd have it eighty twenty for aj over deontay, maybe more. & i think aj is basic
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I get all the hate for Wilder. He's got poor boxing technique... fed off a bunch of carcasses on the way to the top... and has exhibited poor judgment in the things he says.

    But the fact remains that he got beat by an undefeated fighter who was taller and heavier than him. Something Wilder had not encountered before and probably never will again.

    Fury can also box circles around most of the other boxers that Wilder could foreseeably be matched against. (I still say people take it for granted Deontay would lose to AJ when in actuality it's more of a 50/50 fight).

    There's no telling how Wilder will emerge from the beatings he took. That's anybody's guess.

    But if his head is on right... I'd bet on Wilder to sweep the floor with most of the mediocre contenders out there.
    i'd have it eighty twenty for aj over deontay, maybe more. & i think aj is basic

    I'd take that bet.

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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    I don't see Helenius stopping Wilder... and I don't see Helenius getting up from a Wilder bomb.
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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    “Fury battering Wilder in the 8th and he can barely stand. His legs are nearly gone.

    6-2

    Fury knocks down an exhausted Wilder in the 10th with a big right hand but fights back hard at the end of the ound. True heart.

    8-2 Fury”

    I wonder whose comments these were on the RBR?
    And this is “THE BEST VERSION” of Wilder?
    Just because he “showed heart”
    He got battered, put on his ass 4 times , could hardly stand up when Fury blew his house down. And according to you , @Master, at the time of the KO , he was down 8 ROUNDS TO 2 !!
    Fury is that good, he would do the same against any of the heavyweights today. I could not see AJ giving Fury as much trouble or resistance.
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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    “Fury battering Wilder in the 8th and he can barely stand. His legs are nearly gone.

    6-2

    Fury knocks down an exhausted Wilder in the 10th with a big right hand but fights back hard at the end of the ound. True heart.

    8-2 Fury”

    I wonder whose comments these were on the RBR?
    And this is “THE BEST VERSION” of Wilder?
    Just because he “showed heart”
    He got battered, put on his ass 4 times , could hardly stand up when Fury blew his house down. And according to you , @Master, at the time of the KO , he was down 8 ROUNDS TO 2 !!
    Fury is that good, he would do the same against any of the heavyweights today. I could not see AJ giving Fury as much trouble or resistance.
    Usyk??
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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    “Fury battering Wilder in the 8th and he can barely stand. His legs are nearly gone.

    6-2

    Fury knocks down an exhausted Wilder in the 10th with a big right hand but fights back hard at the end of the ound. True heart.

    8-2 Fury”

    I wonder whose comments these were on the RBR?
    And this is “THE BEST VERSION” of Wilder?
    Just because he “showed heart”
    He got battered, put on his ass 4 times , could hardly stand up when Fury blew his house down. And according to you , @Master, at the time of the KO , he was down 8 ROUNDS TO 2 !!
    Fury is that good, he would do the same against any of the heavyweights today. I could not see AJ giving Fury as much trouble or resistance.
    Usyk??
    Question marks are right when you type Usyk. He was given hell by Chisora early on in the fight and Fury would do the same but far better.
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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    Wow! I am speechless. Out of curiosity, where do you put Fury in the all time list?
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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    “Fury battering Wilder in the 8th and he can barely stand. His legs are nearly gone.

    6-2

    Fury knocks down an exhausted Wilder in the 10th with a big right hand but fights back hard at the end of the ound. True heart.

    8-2 Fury”

    I wonder whose comments these were on the RBR?
    And this is “THE BEST VERSION” of Wilder?
    Just because he “showed heart”
    He got battered, put on his ass 4 times , could hardly stand up when Fury blew his house down. And according to you , @Master, at the time of the KO , he was down 8 ROUNDS TO 2 !!
    Fury is that good, he would do the same against any of the heavyweights today. I could not see AJ giving Fury as much trouble or resistance.
    Usyk??
    Question marks are right when you type Usyk. He was given hell by Chisora early on in the fight and Fury would do the same but far better.
    Spot on. Chisora really smashed the hips and arms of Uzyk. Smashed and roughed him up well. All's Uzyk can do is run like little bitc*. All night long, run away little girl. Chisora switched southpaw well and smashed right hands well into jaw of Uzyk. Constant pressure. 115-113 on 2 judges cards. I scored it 114-114

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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    If AJ beats Usyk, Fury will fight AJ.
    If Usyk beats AJ, Fury either stays retired or it wouldn’t surprise me if he STILL Fought AJ!!
    Basically, Fury thinks he beats AJ. But he doesn’t think he beats Usyk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    If AJ beats Usyk, Fury will fight AJ.
    If Usyk beats AJ, Fury either stays retired or it wouldn’t surprise me if he STILL Fought AJ!!
    Basically, Fury thinks he beats AJ. But he doesn’t think he beats Usyk.
    Take what Fury says with a pinch of salt. He wants to be undisputed champion and if Usyk wins Fury will face him. Fury is too big for Usyk and he will use that size to his advantage.

    Fury is nowhere on the ATG heavyweight list until he becomes the best of his generation, undisputed and defends the title more times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoley View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    “Fury battering Wilder in the 8th and he can barely stand. His legs are nearly gone.

    6-2

    Fury knocks down an exhausted Wilder in the 10th with a big right hand but fights back hard at the end of the ound. True heart.

    8-2 Fury”

    I wonder whose comments these were on the RBR?
    And this is “THE BEST VERSION” of Wilder?
    Just because he “showed heart”
    He got battered, put on his ass 4 times , could hardly stand up when Fury blew his house down. And according to you , @Master, at the time of the KO , he was down 8 ROUNDS TO 2 !!
    Fury is that good, he would do the same against any of the heavyweights today. I could not see AJ giving Fury as much trouble or resistance.
    Usyk??
    Question marks are right when you type Usyk. He was given hell by Chisora early on in the fight and Fury would do the same but far better.
    Spot on. Chisora really smashed the hips and arms of Uzyk. Smashed and roughed him up well. All's Uzyk can do is run like little bitc*. All night long, run away little girl. Chisora switched southpaw well and smashed right hands well into jaw of Uzyk. Constant pressure. 115-113 on 2 judges cards. I scored it 114-114
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    Default Re: Robert Helenius vs deontay Wilder possible October

    i see this as a glorified sparring session but i'd love to see it go horribly wrong
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